need help upgrading my friends gpu

[dreamcast4599]

so back in december of 2023, i built my bestie his very first gaming pc. based around an LGA 1150, Z87 MSI G43 motherboard, 32 gigs of ddr3 1600Mhz. a 500 watt thermaltake psu, and a core i5 4690k running at stock bios settings since he doesnt know how to overclock and wanted everything stock except ram which was set to XMP. he also has an MSI 1050TI id like to buy a used GPU to provide him better gaming performance on his aging platform but im not sure what GPU would be best. id like to avoid a bottleneck as he games on a sony sdm-m51d 1024x764 max screen res with only dvi input the two most demanding games he plays are doom 2016 and stray

i know these specs arent the vbest but when i built him this pc it was all i could afford and since at the time he did most of his work and web browsing on a shite android 4.0 phone this was a better upgrade im primarilly lookin for a gpu with 8gigs of vram i know hes mostly cpu bound due to the screen res but ya how would an rx 480/580 8gig compare to his 1050Ti

 

how much of a difference would 8gigs over 4 gigs make gaming wise given his native screen res

[jaslion]

32 minutes ago, dreamcast4599 said:

MSI 1050TI

Honestly thats as far as id go on a 1050ti.

 

32 minutes ago, dreamcast4599 said:

1024x764

Especially at that res the 1050 should be heaps fine still.

 

4gig of vram is very much fine still due to that.

 

I advice not spending money and no upgrade here. 

[leclod]

26 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Honestly thats as far as id go on a 1050ti.

Don't you mean thats as far as id go on a 4690k ?

Edited April 26 by leclod

[podkall]

1 hour ago, dreamcast4599 said:

the two most demanding games he plays are doom 2016 and stray

1050ti can realistically run DOOM 2016, probably even Eternal, since the 1024x764 resolution greatly reduces the demand,

 

that screen has 782 336 pixels, 1080p screen has 2 073 600 pixels.

 

The 4GB of VRAM might be enough for medium resolution for games like this or very close, but unless there's VRAM overflow causing stutter, the main bottleneck might be CPU.

 

1 hour ago, dreamcast4599 said:

how much of a difference would 8gigs over 4 gigs make gaming wise given his native screen res

he'd see about same FPS but could maybe run few settings on high-max-ultra?

 

that's not to say 1050ti can't do that sometimes on such resolution

 

 

Stable 50-60fps at 1080p resolution, on Ultra graphics preset, and he's bottlenecked with a single stick of RAM, the only thing that is faster in comparison is the 10th gen CPU and the RAM is DDR4

 

 

To get little bit more fps, maybe into the 100s, 580 might work, the question is if the system can handle a card with almost triple the power draw of 1050ti,

 

 

 

 

 

16-series GPUs might offer similar performance at lower power draw though

 

 

 

2 hours ago, dreamcast4599 said:

LGA 1150, Z87 MSI G43 motherboard, 32 gigs of ddr3 1600Mhz. a 500 watt thermaltake psu, and a core i5 4690k

Question is, how much difference will GPU upgrade make on a 700p screen.

 

How much FPS are they achieving in games like DOOM 2016? Because it's important to remember that the benchmark video uses 1080p resolution.

[jaslion]

2 hours ago, leclod said:

Don't you mean thats as far as id go on a 4690k ?

Yes.

 

But for their friend a 1050ti is about as far as i'd go really. Doom 2016 should run real nice and so should stray. The issue simply remains that for anything really recent the entire system is woefully out of date and no single component upgrade will make it good enough. At this point it's at the total replacement level.

[Mark Kaine]

2 hours ago, jaslion said:

Yes.

 

But for their friend a 1050ti is about as far as i'd go really. Doom 2016 should run real nice and so should stray. The issue simply remains that for anything really recent the entire system is woefully out of date and no single component upgrade will make it good enough. At this point it's at the total replacement level.

Wouldn't like a 580 be wayyy faster? The CPU may be old but it's not that bad.

 

6 hours ago, dreamcast4599 said:

how much of a difference would 8gigs over 4 gigs make gaming wise given his native screen res

Res isn't as big of a factor, eg I had to play monster hunter world at like 620p at everything LOW on my "1080p" screen laptop because lighting textures etc just take up so many resources (and I still only got like 42fps on average)

 

I just don't think that CPU is such a big bottleneck 

4 hours ago, podkall said:

580 might work, the question is if the system can handle a card with almost triple the power draw of 1050ti,

Yeah.... Although for whatever reason my old 1050ti does have a 6 pin power connector (and doesn't work without it, I tried lol)

[jaslion]

17 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Wouldn't like a 580 be wayyy faster? The CPU may be old but it's not that bad.

Yes it is a good bit faster about 50%. But the question remains if its even needed as well 1024*768 is such a low resolution a 1050ti should have any trouble getting 60fps at that up to all games that cpu can still try to run. 

 

Hence my suggestion not yo upgrade and simply save the money

[podkall]

21 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

Yeah.... Although for whatever reason my old 1050ti does have a 6 pin power connector (and doesn't work without it, I tried lol)

Then that's an OC version, since TechPowerUp uses stock original vendor board design, same way card can have 12VHPWR in connector spec, but instead be built with 2x8pin

[dreamcast4599]

@podkall well i doubt even a 4770k would be much of an upgrade and neither he nor i can afford to build him a new pc i built this pc mainly with some free donations such as the free gpu and free case and bought the mobo psu and ram and cpu since my friend couldnt afford a pc on his own i built him one from used parts i either had lying around bought off ebay for cheap or fot free off forums like this as donations