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I'm not sure what to do. I have been looking to build a pc while not spending too much. I'm switching from old gen console and looking at it's possible performance I'm not sure if its a good choice compared to PS5. Build in short consists of a 2070s and ryzen 5 5600 and full build will cost around 550-600€ and I won't spend more (not even counting having to buy MnK), the intent is to play some modern AAA games and MP not necessarily every single 1 that came out this year at 1080p at least and looking at it, pc will struggle greatly because 8GB of VRAM that might not be enough and optimisation. At the same time modern games run somewhat smoothly on PS5 and that might be the case for games coming out in the next years. I'm questioning if I should just buy PS5 for 500 and be done with it or build the PC hoping games will run? I really need a serious advice. Here's the build

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18 minutes ago, AAVVIronAlex said:

I recommend used parts if you want to rival the PS5, otherwise the PS5 is goated. But generally speaking, you can do a lot more than just gaming with a PC.

but you could get a used ps5 too

I know it might not be secure, yeah vibecoding is cool but we shouldnt do smt unless we understand it and etc. thx but these disclaimers get old quick. maybe we shall be reminded frequently for we are stupid but i dont work at a nuclear powerplant.

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14 minutes ago, AAVVIronAlex said:

I recommend used parts if you want to rival the PS5, otherwise the PS5 is goated. But generally speaking, you can do a lot more than just gaming with a PC.

Thats what I intend to do, buy used parts like CPU, GPU, RAM and maybe storage thats in the link. I'm just not sure if the build will hold up right now and in the long run. If I'll build it I mostly intend to use it to play and mod which seems most interesting compared to playing vanilla on console. 

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5 minutes ago, apoyusiken said:

but you could get a used ps5 too

Which could be a good decision but depending on how people treat controllers you might be forced to buy a new one or fix it. Worst thing is paying for online, except f2p games, and horrendous store that won't be improved for a long time

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10 minutes ago, _nolimit_ said:

Thats what I intend to do, buy used parts like CPU, GPU, RAM and maybe storage thats in the link. I'm just not sure if the build will hold up right now and in the long run. If I'll build it I mostly intend to use it to play and mod which seems most interesting compared to playing vanilla on console. 

well the ps5 won’t hold up in the long run too. won’t the ps6 be out in 2 years almost? 

 

I would search for a whole case with components maybe someone wants to get rid of at a bargain

I know it might not be secure, yeah vibecoding is cool but we shouldnt do smt unless we understand it and etc. thx but these disclaimers get old quick. maybe we shall be reminded frequently for we are stupid but i dont work at a nuclear powerplant.

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The proposed spec isn't that different from a PS5. For the heavier PS5 games, it is more like a PC playing on low-medium and making use of upscaling, around 30fps maybe 60fps if you drop quality more. IMO 8GB VRAM is not the biggest problem, but if it makes you feel better then could you go for a 3060?

 

More in general, check what games you are most interested in and if they are available on both platforms, and at what cost. Feels like PS doesn't get as many discounts as you can find on PC.

 

Since you're in Italy, look at CeX for used stuff too. Sometimes they have good pricing, other times not. It really varies. But if they are good on pricing, they'll give you store warranty which could help give confidence in getting used.

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7 minutes ago, apoyusiken said:

well the ps5 won’t hold up in the long run too. won’t the ps6 be out in 2 years almost? 

 

I would search for a whole case with components maybe someone wants to get rid of at a bargain

I feel like optimisation can easily prolong PS5 life and PS6 won't differ much from PS5/PSPRO considering how bad pro was received. I also don't think they'll target a console with better specs rather than optimisation.

I've looked up an already built pcs and honestly they're horrible and overpriced by a lot

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2 minutes ago, _nolimit_ said:

I feel like optimisation can easily prolong PS5 life and PS6 won't differ much from PS5/PSPRO considering how bad pro was received. I also don't think they'll target a console with better specs rather than optimisation.

I've looked up an already built pcs and honestly they're horrible and overpriced by a lot

yea but optimisation can prolong pc’s lifespan too especially with mods.

 

looks like there aren’t many differences with ps and pc so you will probably have to go with whichever offers a better deal.

I know it might not be secure, yeah vibecoding is cool but we shouldnt do smt unless we understand it and etc. thx but these disclaimers get old quick. maybe we shall be reminded frequently for we are stupid but i dont work at a nuclear powerplant.

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10 minutes ago, porina said:

The proposed spec isn't that different from a PS5. For the heavier PS5 games, it is more like a PC playing on low-medium and making use of upscaling, around 30fps maybe 60fps if you drop quality more. IMO 8GB VRAM is not the biggest problem, but if it makes you feel better then could you go for a 3060?

 

More in general, check what games you are most interested in and if they are available on both platforms, and at what cost. Feels like PS doesn't get as many discounts as you can find on PC.

 

Since you're in Italy, look at CeX for used stuff too. Sometimes they have good pricing, other times not. It really varies. But if they are good on pricing, they'll give you store warranty which could help give confidence in getting used.

Doesn't PS5 have 16GB GDDR, even if its with cpu isn't it better than "my" build? I've looked up 3060 before and deals on used weren't as good as 1 I found for 2070 super for 175 although I'm not informed enough to say but super seemd better performance wise?

Cost wise it's undoubtedly to say pc is miles better and I say it as a console user, I'm mostly looking to play games from the past 5 years and some games from this year that haven't come out yet that I couldn't or didn't even want to try and play on past gen console.

I've never heard about CeX. I appreciate the response 

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2 hours ago, _nolimit_ said:

Doesn't PS5 have 16GB GDDR, even if its with cpu isn't it better than "my" build?

It is shared between all of OS, the game code, and GPU assets. In theory they could allocate more than 8GB to the GPU part, but in most if not all games you will find workable settings for 8GB VRAM.

 

2 hours ago, _nolimit_ said:

I've looked up 3060 before and deals on used weren't as good as 1 I found for 2070 super for 175 although I'm not informed enough to say but super seemd better performance wise?

It is only a suggestion for consideration. I didn't look at performance, but now I do the 2070S is only a little faster than 3060 overall. Since you were concerned about VRAM the 3060 could help there with 12GB.

 

2 hours ago, _nolimit_ said:

I've never heard about CeX.

They're a pretty big chain with stores across the UK, buying and selling used hardware and games. I noticed they have an Italy website too. Again, pricing is very mixed.

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well ps6 will probably be $1000+ 

how much would a gpu upgrade cost say 5 years down the road? probably $500. but can re sell the old gpu for a little bit. also buy used.

have to spend a bit more on a cpu to last a few upgrades but is do able.

console games i think normal cost more then say steam or gog games and you pay online fee thow there are online fees with pc games too but there games that dont have it or its a option.

can play xbox games on pc too with the pass.

can play older games but some might not just work thow...

each system can have different problems well consoles they all the same soposably 

use keyboard mouse on pc and controller on console but some might use keyboard.

so big tv for consoles and like say 27inch monitor for pcs.

controllers need replaced and there like $100+ $200 for the"good" one...

pcs have mods well most console games don't.

some console games are better then pc ports for w/e reason... 

i dont no if there a site were you can add game to wish-list and it will like email you when it gos on sale for consoles? but its probly posably to buy games to your console account from your pc?

you could also have a cheap pc for other stuff like word and things so...

pcs are custom and well you can spend lots money on just for looks parts. there some console mods but not like the old days with like a shell or controller shell.

a pc should atlest do 60fps at 1080p well consoles still don't get you 60fps...

a minimum of 12gb vram on gpus is recommended with probably puts you in $400+ price range. 

in theory you can trade your console game but things like the switch 2 there's problems...

consoles like ps5 fairly easy to replace the fan and think storage but i think it proprietary?

some consoles modles have better fans but think it easy to swap out thow at extra cost.

don't no about xbox and storage think xbox is proprietary and think storage cost more for consoles. could be wrong about that thow. 

people say the console is alwes updating but so is steam...

think consoles use less wats then say a pc but i guess a budget pc would be fairly low to...

i guess consoles could play multi players on the couch? but posable there pc games also have the option.

think you need a good tv to do 4k witch consoles but maybe you allready have a tv that would work.

desk, chair posably cheap monitors can be found cheap or free. mouse is hit and miss if its good or not or how long it last. 

pc can take up more space then console and tv if you have a tv already. could use pc on tv too but most dont.

pros and cons i got for now.

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8 hours ago, _nolimit_ said:

Doesn't PS5 have 16GB GDDR, even if its with cpu isn't it better than "my" build? I've looked up 3060 before and deals on used weren't as good as 1 I found for 2070 super for 175 although I'm not informed enough to say but super seemd better performance wise?

Cost wise it's undoubtedly to say pc is miles better and I say it as a console user, I'm mostly looking to play games from the past 5 years and some games from this year that haven't come out yet that I couldn't or didn't even want to try and play on past gen console.

I've never heard about CeX. I appreciate the response 

16 gb for the entire machine, the PC has 24 total ram. 

 

As someone who *just* recently upgraded to something with more vram, I find the fear mongering around 8gb overblown. Yes, you can run out, but it is easily avoided by turning down a setting or two (which would still look better than a PS5)

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22 hours ago, Blue4130 said:

16 gb for the entire machine, the PC has 24 total ram. 

 

As someone who *just* recently upgraded to something with more vram, I find the fear mongering around 8gb overblown. Yes, you can run out, but it is easily avoided by turning down a setting or two (which would still look better than a PS5)

Oh ok I get it. Would you say that this year's games can be handled by a 8gb card with optimal settings to target a decent looking graphics and 60+ fps or is it unrealistic?

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51 minutes ago, _nolimit_ said:

Oh ok I get it. Would you say that this year's games can be handled by a 8gb card with optimal settings to target a decent looking graphics and 60+ fps or is it unrealistic?

That is impossible to say. You have games like indie title "overlooting" that will basically run on a 20 year old computer and you also have Mafia The Old Country that needs 5070TI to just hit 1080p 60 fps without raytracing. Both are 2025 games. 

 

There are many games that will run fine with 8gb, there are some that will not. I would wager that more CAN than can't be tweaked to run well on an 8gb card.

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On 8/31/2025 at 1:48 PM, thrasher_565 said:

well ps6 will probably be $1000+ 

I really doubt that. Even with all the economic pressures piling up, I think that console manufacturers are still incentivized to keep prices somewhat reasonable. They will cut down the specs before they allow it to cost four figures. There are not enough people willing to buy a $1,000 console in order to make that price viable.

 

I could see the PS6 matching the $700 price tag of the PS5 Pro, but I doubt that Sony could get away with any higher than that.

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55 minutes ago, Ha-Satan said:

I really doubt that. Even with all the economic pressures piling up, I think that console manufacturers are still incentivized to keep prices somewhat reasonable. They will cut down the specs before they allow it to cost four figures. There are not enough people willing to buy a $1,000 console in order to make that price viable.

 

I could see the PS6 matching the $700 price tag of the PS5 Pro, but I doubt that Sony could get away with any higher than that.

well it all ready close to $1000 Canadian + with tax its over $1000 and no games... no cd drive ether.

$270 controller...

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21 minutes ago, thrasher_565 said:

well it all ready close to $1000 Canadian + with tax its over $1000 and no games... no cd drive ether.

Yeah, I can see it being $1,000 maple leaf dollars.

 

Since OP was speaking in terms of euros I presumed you were talking USD since USD is closer to 1:1 with euros compared to CAD.

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33 minutes ago, Ha-Satan said:

Yeah, I can see it being $1,000 maple leaf dollars.

 

Since OP was speaking in terms of euros I presumed you were talking USD since USD is closer to 1:1 with euros compared to CAD.

this is what i got for a pc build can tweek some stuff not the best at matching things to the pro.

could also buy stuff used too. looks like a used ps5 pro is $800

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/trqWh7

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1 minute ago, thrasher_565 said:

this is what i got for a pc build can tweek some stuff not the best at matching things to the pro.

could also buy stuff used too.

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/trqWh7

One thing you could do would be to go for a 9060 XT 16GB instead of the 7700 XT, which would save about $50 and give you roughly the same raw performance with more VRAM and FSR4 support.

 

The 9060 XT 16GB is very close to PS5 Pro performance:

 

 

That said, for what it's worth, I feel like the whole price-to-performance value argument of PC vs. console is a bit beside the point, at least for me. Console gaming and PC gaming are just categorically different things. I don't buy consoles because I think they're necessarily going to be the best value in terms of price-to-performance (though they often can be); rather, I buy consoles because they offer a convenient and simple plug-and-play solution for gaming where things will "just work" 99% of the time. 

 

(Also, physical games are a huge plus for consoles. I'm sad to see that physical games are probably on the way out, which dampens my enthusiasm for future consoles significantly.)

 

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1 hour ago, Ha-Satan said:

One thing you could do would be to go for a 9060 XT 16GB instead of the 7700 XT, which would save about $50 and give you roughly the same raw performance with more VRAM and FSR4 support.

 

The 9060 XT 16GB is very close to PS5 Pro performance:

 

 

That said, for what it's worth, I feel like the whole price-to-performance value argument of PC vs. console is a bit beside the point, at least for me. Console gaming and PC gaming are just categorically different things. I don't buy consoles because I think they're necessarily going to be the best value in terms of price-to-performance (though they often can be); rather, I buy consoles because they offer a convenient and simple plug-and-play solution for gaming where things will "just work" 99% of the time. 

 

(Also, physical games are a huge plus for consoles. I'm sad to see that physical games are probably on the way out, which dampens my enthusiasm for future consoles significantly.)

 

ya some days im like man i should just use a console as it just works...

but im a pc guy/ retro consoles and games from like 1988 all the way to 2025 game list. i have like say 150 games across gog and steam and pay probably like $100ish a year on games.

if i had to start on the ps5 ied have no games and cant play most of older games. will ps5 games play on ps6? hard to say. thow most game i got back the good old bundle deals like $20 for like 10 games...

it be better if they said all game going foreword will be backwards compatible but that's not the case. you could play some older games but at an added fee...and wont have every game...

my switch games were expensive like $2500 at $55 a game and thats buying them as cheap as posable. i could re sell them thow and get my money back how

 

i guess what you do is ps5 and say a cheap ish pc for other older games?

 

anyway haha have a good day.

 

there are people that like buy a few games and play them for years like gta cod or sports games but i get bored...

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42 minutes ago, thrasher_565 said:

i guess what you do is ps5 and say a cheap ish pc for other older games?

 

Actually at the moment I have a PC (R5 5600 and 2070S), PS4, and Switch, but I'm probably going to buy a PS5 sometime relatively soon and use that for new games moving forward while continuing to use my old PC for my backlog of PC games. I'll probably also buy a Switch 2 at some point in the future when I feel like it has a compelling collection of exclusives. I use to be much more of a PC gaming enthusiast but over time I've realized that PC gaming is actually the worse choice for me personally.

 

There are a number of factors that make this feel like the right decision for me:

 

1. I barely play online games, and when I do it's either on Switch (i.e. Mario Kart and Mario Party) or it's games like Rocket League that will run on a potato. I'm mostly only playing single-player. I never plan to pay for PS online functionality, and Switch Online is only $20 a year (though it does suck ass as a service lol). If I were a hardcore competitive gamer, I'd absolutely be sticking with PC lol.

 

2. I play on the couch and have no desk setup at all, so I prefer to use a controller most of the time. I do have things set up to where I can use mouse and keyboard if a game really needs it, but it's not what I prefer.

 

3. My favorite genres tend to be Sony-style action-adventure games and JRPGs, which are oftentimes released with Playstation as the lead platform and may not even come out on PC at first. Furthermore, they are usually designed to play just fine within the control and frame rate limitations of a console, so I'm not bothered by missing out on 144+ fps and mouse input.

 

4. I have access to a huge number of games for free through my awesome public library. The fact that I can play so many games for free this way really swings the value proposition towards console for me. Like, all those Nintendo first-party games that cost $60-$80 and never go on sale? Yeah, the library has those. Now, for truly massive games like Xenoblade that takes months of real-world time for me to complete, those I will still buy, because it's not feasible to complete them within the time frame that the library lets me borrow games. But even with buying those, I can still save a massive amount of money by just borrowing games from the library. Obviously this is a luxury that isn't available for everyone. Public libraries rule.

 

Add up all these factors and console just makes more sense for me specifically. 

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On 8/31/2025 at 6:54 AM, _nolimit_ said:

I'm not sure what to do. I have been looking to build a pc while not spending too much.

 

What is your intended gameplay resolution/framerate. Because if you just want to play the game, get the PS5. If you want to play at resolution/framerate higher than 1080p60 then you need to pick the parts that let you do that. A 2070 might get 1440p60 or 1080p90 or something but that's not much of an upgrade. If you already have parts laying around, then don't spend more money unless you really have your heart set on a specific experience.

 

The PS5 is fine if you "just want to play the game". The difference is that the PS5 goes EOL and the game publishers don't port to more than one console of one manufacturer. So you get more usable time out of a PC, but only if you overbuild it in the first place. If you just use old parts and replace it with off-market parts, you spend more money than the console eventually.

 

My preference is "PC Master Race" + whatever Nintendo has, since the PS4/PS5 or Xbox is just a PC and the games are always available on the PC even if there is some delay in publishing due to console exclusivity or worse Epic Games timed exclusive.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Ha-Satan said:

 

Actually at the moment I have a PC (R5 5600 and 2070S), PS4, and Switch, but I'm probably going to buy a PS5 sometime relatively soon and use that for new games moving forward while continuing to use my old PC for my backlog of PC games. I'll probably also buy a Switch 2 at some point in the future when I feel like it has a compelling collection of exclusives. 

 

There are a number of factors that make this feel like the right decision for me:

 

1. I barely play online games, and when I do it's either on Switch (i.e. Mario Kart and Mario Party) or it's games like Rocket League that will run on a potato. I'm mostly only playing single-player. I never plan to pay for PS online functionality, and Switch Online is only $20 a year (though it does suck ass as a service lol). If I were a hardcore competitive gamer, I'd absolutely be sticking with PC lol.

 

2. I play on the couch and have no desk setup at all, so I prefer to use a controller most of the time. I do have things set up to where I can use mouse and keyboard if a game really needs it, but it's not what I prefer.

 

3. My favorite genres tend to be Sony-style action-adventure games and JRPGs, which are oftentimes released with Playstation as the lead platform and may not even come out on PC at first. Furthermore, they are usually designed to play just fine within the control and frame rate limitations of a console, so I'm not bothered by missing out on 120 fps and mouse input.

 

4. I have access to a huge number of games for free through my awesome public library. The fact that I can play so many games for free this way really swings the value proposition towards console for me. Like, all those Nintendo first-party games that cost $60-$80 and never go on sale? Yeah, the library has those. Now, for truly massive games like Xenoblade that takes months of real-world time for me to complete, those I will still buy, because it's not feasible to complete them within the time frame that the library lets me borrow games. But even with buying those, I can still save a massive amount of money by just borrowing games from the library. Obviously this is a luxury that isn't available for everyone. Public libraries rule.

 

Add up all these factors and console just makes more sense for me specifically. 

so you can barrow game for free for the library? dam...thats cool.

think were i live there book posably some movies / cds but i dont no if there more then that? i no we had a special needs guy at work that would get cd from there and use a cd player.

 

cds and moves are cheap thow so...🤷‍♂️i just hate the black borders...

 

ya i too dont pay for online stuff so im trying to look it up what what each costs and what you get. i forgot about xbox on pc witch make it a huge library of course its a monthly fee thow  

 

i might make another topic and try find people from all sides like hardcore console players to casual play.

im one sides as i have not gamed on tv with a new console so i dont realy no how it is.

 

i no there some games dont hit the 60 fps on consoles and how dose that feel? is it laggy or not.

 

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4 hours ago, thrasher_565 said:

i no there some games dont hit the 60 fps on consoles and how dose that feel? is it laggy or not.

IMO whether or not sub-60 fps gameplay feels "laggy" or not depends on the input type used and the pace of the game.

 

A fast-paced game that requires really twitchy movements is going to feel pretty bad at 30 fps, but a lot of games (especially the types of games that I play) don't typically require these sorts of super twitchy responses.

 

Similarly, using a controller as opposed to a mouse makes 30 fps a lot less of a problem. That's because developers typically lock the camera turning speed to a relatively low max value, and sometimes add a brief moment of acceleration to the beginning of the movement. Both of these facts (the slow max speed and the acceleration) help to cover up the additional input latency and "jumpy" motion from the lower frame rate. (Motion blur helps cover up the jumpiness too.)

 

But if you use a mouse, you can turn the camera instantly and really quickly. Any sort of additional delay between your movement and the camera turning will be a lot more noticeable, and when you make big camera movements really fast, the "jumpiness" or "framiness" of the 30 fps update will be a lot more obvious.

 

So for me, if I tried to play a fast-paced game like Doom at 30 fps with a keyboard and mouse, that would be terrible and I would find it to be basically unplayable. But playing a slower-paced game like Assassin's Creed with a controller at 30 fps is totally fine.

 

Personally I find that I can play fast-paced games with keyboard and mouse down to about 50 fps. A locked and properly synced 50 fps doesn't feel meaningfully different to me than a locked and synced 60 fps. But below 50 fps, I need to be using a controller and I can't play games that are too fast-paced.

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