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6 minutes ago, jufieeee said:

Hey, so I am wondering if nog the AMD 9000 series has dropped the previous GPU's would get cheaper? Not an expert, so I'm asking here. 

 

no, with people trying to get their hands on new gpus they will upsell their gpus so they can meet the price of the new gpu.

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That seems intuitive, but it's not really a guarantee. AMD has historically continued to manufacture and sell their older-gen products for a few years after the replacements have arrived and given them at least "unofficial" price cuts. For example, they're still clearly manufacturing Zen 3 processors since you can easily buy them new for dirt-cheap prices, despite Zen 5 being out.

 

Nvidia, on the other hand, will almost never let prices drop on their old stuff. Instead they will just let stock dry up as the new gen launches.

 

That said, I think that in the current market WereCat might be right and prices will just stay shitty because of poor supply.

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12 minutes ago, jufieeee said:

Hey, so I am wondering if nog the AMD 9000 series has dropped the previous GPU's would get cheaper? Not an expert, so I'm asking here. 

 

no since we all know by now that most people still wanna buy nvidia and thus whatever amd does is not relevant.

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Generally yes, this time around, probably not. There isnt much stock left that a price drop is possible. Both manufacturers paused manufacturing of their old GPUs too early this go round leaving no supply to exist the last month, AMD had initially planned to launch earlier (retailers had the cards in january) And Nvidia had other obligations to fill. 

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Why would we know better than... you just checking prices from the retailers available to you in whatever location you are?

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31 minutes ago, Ha-Satan said:

AMD has historically continued to manufacture and sell their older-gen products for a few years after the replacements have arrived and given them at least "unofficial" price cuts. For example, they're still clearly manufacturing Zen 3 processors since you can easily buy them new for dirt-cheap prices, despite Zen 5 being out.

Theyre not even that cheap with the only decent deals being the 5700x3d and 5900xt new

 

gotta be pretty stupid to buy a new zen3 apu these days when the faster 8600g exists or used rx 570/580s, i mean yeah i am going to buy a 5500 but im looking for used ones and i do intend to oc the shit out of it (ddr4 5200+ hopefully depending on how far the vsoc scaling goes) theres a few going for about 65$ which is alot better than a 120$ 5600gt

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38 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Theyre not even that cheap with the only decent deals being the 5700x3d and 5900xt new

 

gotta be pretty stupid to buy a new zen3 apu these days when the faster 8600g exists or used rx 570/580s, i mean yeah i am going to buy a 5500 but im looking for used ones and i do intend to oc the shit out of it (ddr4 5200+ hopefully depending on how far the vsoc scaling goes) theres a few going for about 65$ which is alot better than a 120$ 5600gt

I think the 5600 no-letter is still a decent option for an entry-level gaming rig, especially if you pair it with a cheap board. The i3-13100F is also a good price at around $75 but it's meaningfully slower than the 5600 and the motherboards typically cost more for feature parity (and on top of that there are probably a lot more AM4 boards already out in the wild than LGA 1700).

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47 minutes ago, Ha-Satan said:

I think the 5600 no-letter is still a decent option for an entry-level gaming rig, especially if you pair it with a cheap board. The i3-13100F is also a good price at around $75 but it's meaningfully slower than the 5600 and the motherboards typically cost more for feature parity (and on top of that there are probably a lot more AM4 boards already out in the wild than LGA 1700).

At 115$ its pretty terrible new though theyre more like 80$ used with 3600 around the 50$ mark, theres also the 5500 at 82$ while still abit better value wise not great bone stock considering bone stock perf is equal to the 3600, a simple 4.5-4.8 allcore fixes that and the cache can be compensated by the rams (ideal ~5000, realistically 4400-4600 for something that wont take a week or two esp when considering mobo limit)

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1 hour ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

At 115$ its pretty terrible new though theyre more like 80$ used with 3600 around the 50$ mark, theres also the 5500 at 82$ while still abit better value wise not great bone stock considering bone stock perf is equal to the 3600, a simple 4.5-4.8 allcore fixes that and the cache can be compensated by the rams (ideal ~5000, realistically 4400-4600 for something that wont take a week or two esp when considering mobo limit)

Used is definitely my preferred way to go as well, but I have to admit that I have some trepidation about recommending used AM4 chips, or any PGA chip to be honest, because of the potential for bent pins. Even a pin that has been bent back straight is, in my experience, a potential culprit for instability, and if it has been bent back you might not be able to immediately tell that there is damage.

 

If I were buying a used CPU for a new rig, I'd be very tempted by the i5-12400, though.

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