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So I am thinking about changing my storage stuff into a RAID configuration for faster speeds but I'm not too familiar. I have 4 m.2 drives, 2 of which are Crucial p3 plus', and the other 2 are Samsung 970 evo plus. Then I have 3 pny cs900's. Would love any info I can get, and also an idea as to if I should do a hardware raid through my motherboard or do it through a software. If it is better via software, I would also like some recommendations 😄

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33 minutes ago, Malakae said:

So I am thinking about changing my storage stuff into a RAID configuration for faster speeds but I'm not too familiar. I have 4 m.2 drives, 2 of which are Crucial p3 plus', and the other 2 are Samsung 970 evo plus. Then I have 3 pny cs900's. Would love any info I can get, and also an idea as to if I should do a hardware raid through my motherboard or do it through a software. If it is better via software, I would also like some recommendations 😄

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Support Raid 0, 1, 5, 10

i really dont think you have enough pci lanes for setting up 2  raid config and your gpu.

you have to go done on speed with second raid config

gen 5 for gpu only to cpu.

4 pci lanes (gen 4) are usable.

before what ever chip set using.

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1 hour ago, Malakae said:

for faster speeds

What usecase? Theres almost nothing that csn even max load a gen 3 drive.

 

Also raid 0 is NOT A FLAT PERFORMANCE INCREASE. Drives can congest bandwith and have to "wait" on eachother which well makes it kinda pointless.

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15 minutes ago, jaslion said:

What usecase? Theres almost nothing that csn even max load a gen 3 drive.

 

Also raid 0 is NOT A FLAT PERFORMANCE INCREASE. Drives can congest bandwith and have to "wait" on eachother which well makes it kinda pointless.

I mean, this is just my gaming system. I've heard mixed things. My dad tells me I should for increased read/write speeds (depending on which I go with) and someone else was adamant that I absolutely should NOT do a raid configuration with my consumer level drives, as they will die in a months time. So rn I'm at a standstill.  And with dogwitch said, I likely should just keep things the way they are. 

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3 minutes ago, Malakae said:

I mean, this is just my gaming system. I've heard mixed things. My dad tells me I should for increased read/write speeds (depending on which I go with) and someone else was adamant that I absolutely should NOT do a raid configuration with my consumer level drives, as they will die in a months time. So rn I'm at a standstill.  And with dogwitch said, I likely should just keep things the way they are. 

RAID won’t have any impact on longevity. RAID doesn’t cause more writes…

 

But the speed increase won’t make any difference. All you would be doing is vastly increasing the chance of data loss (in RAID 0, if you lose a single drive, all data is lost). Any other RAID config, especially with NVMe drives, would cause so much more overhead doing the redundancy calculations the latency would go up… which you would feel much more then the increased theoretical max bandwidth. 
 

In a user facing PC, RAID for performance just doesn’t make any sense anymore. In the enterprise, with very different use cases and very different hardware, it can and does make a lot of sense. 
 

Don’t bother on a gaming PC. It won’t make any noticeable difference, all it will do is vastly increase the chance you lose all your data and have to start from a fresh install of windows. 

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1 hour ago, LIGISTX said:

RAID won’t have any impact on longevity. RAID doesn’t cause more writes…

 

But the speed increase won’t make any difference. All you would be doing is vastly increasing the chance of data loss (in RAID 0, if you lose a single drive, all data is lost). Any other RAID config, especially with NVMe drives, would cause so much more overhead doing the redundancy calculations the latency would go up… which you would feel much more then the increased theoretical max bandwidth. 
 

In a user facing PC, RAID for performance just doesn’t make any sense anymore. In the enterprise, with very different use cases and very different hardware, it can and does make a lot of sense. 
 

Don’t bother on a gaming PC. It won’t make any noticeable difference, all it will do is vastly increase the chance you lose all your data and have to start from a fresh install of windows. 

Ahh I see, thank you! I will leave it as is! Thanks everyone for expanding my knowledge.

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9 hours ago, Malakae said:

mean, this is just my gaming system

Completly pointless then. Games cant even dream of maxing a first gen nvme drive.

 

Your day is probably reffering to the daya before ssds with hdds and well there it could make sense.

 

All raid 0 would do for you is add more risk to yourbdata being lost forever

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RAID on NVMe? I have used RAID in the past, I don't think it will help you much, if any. The arrays are also surprisingly fragile. I would just get better drives than what you have now.

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