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A statement I've seen here has me wondering....  

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  1. 1. Saw a statement on here today claiming "We're enthusiasts, most of us already own 4090's" And I'm curious how many of us forum users do own 4090s

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Yup. Waiting until 5090 reviews to make a decision but I will likely get one. 

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I mean... just cause you like ,for example super cars, doesnt mean you own any

Many dont have the money or can afford a 2000$+ gpu

Sure anyone would like the best of the best but it doesnt mean anyone can afford it

I edit my posts for so if you saw a typo.... no you didn't, you are just crazy
 

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18 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

Saw this post..

How many 4090 owners are here on this forum?

You're missing an important context to this that the thread's OP even states: "People spend stupid money on stupid shit, all for a few extra % or to look a certain way or for bragging rights. My use case is I can need as much extra performance as possible and then the AI integration for some side ventures."

 

Your poll would be far more accurate in asking, "what current RTX 4090 users are looking at buying an RTX 5090 right now."

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If you have your 4090 pull 450W daily, your "enthusiast" title is kinda questionable ngl

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15 minutes ago, Agall said:

You're missing an important context to this that the thread's OP even states: "People spend stupid money on stupid shit, all for a few extra % or to look a certain way or for bragging rights. My use case is I can need as much extra performance as possible and then the AI integration for some side ventures."

 

Your poll would be far more accurate in asking, "what current RTX 4090 users are looking at buying an RTX 5090 right now."

the type of person to buy a 4090 is exactly the type of person that would buy a 5090. There are two camps who bought the 4090, those that don't know the value of a dollar, and those that make money off of the compute so therefore a 5090 is worth it for the additional compute. 

Anyone who values their money would have bought down the stack and will hold onto it for another generation. 

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Got a 2060S in 2019, 400EUR, 6GB VRAM wasn't enough, then a 3080, paid like 1100EUR for it during the GPUpocalypse early 2021, 10GB wasn't enough

Then 4000 series came out at close to 2000EUR for a 4090 and 1400EUR for a 4080

F*** NVidia ! Instead got a top tier 7900XTX with 24GB VRAM for 1200...

 

 

 

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I could buy 4090 or 5090, it's not that I'm rich or anything but I managed to save something to afford it... but what the hell is even the point? Most new games suck and I keep returning to old games I've missed. The extra performance is no longer something I seek just for the sake of having better graphics. I find many new games to be visually bland with little to no style. It's just pointless. In over 10y I'm here this is the first time that for 2gens in a row I've never felt any itch to upgrade whatsoever. I think I'm finally free from the vicious cycle? 😄 (especially when my overclocked 6800XT I've got for 400eur almost 2y ago almost matches RX 7900XT which even now costs 50% more than what I've paid back then).

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49 minutes ago, Agall said:

"what current RTX 4090 users are looking at buying an RTX 5090 right now."

Don't tell me about accuracy in my OWN question.  All I wanted to know was how many users on this forum have 4090s

 With all the Trolls, Try Hards, Noobs and Weirdos around here you'd think i'd find SOMEWHERE to fit in!

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8 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

Don't tell me about accuracy in my OWN question.  All I wanted to know was how many users on this forum have 4090s

So you're linking my post in the OP to this question but yet it has nothing to do with the question? Makes sense.

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13 minutes ago, Agall said:

So you're linking my post in the OP to this question but yet it has nothing to do with the question? Makes sense.

No I was asking a new question based on your statement that "A lot of us already own 4090's"  I'm still rocking a 2070 Super personally and I still consider myself an enthusiast.  So I'm wondering what percentage is "A lot of us"

 With all the Trolls, Try Hards, Noobs and Weirdos around here you'd think i'd find SOMEWHERE to fit in!

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53 minutes ago, starsmine said:

the type of person to buy a 4090 is exactly the type of person that would buy a 5090. There are two camps who bought the 4090, those that don't know the value of a dollar, and those that make money off of the compute so therefore a 5090 is worth it for the additional compute. 

Anyone who values their money would have bought down the stack and will hold onto it for another generation. 

Then I'm a outlier in this because I bought an RTX 4090 for its 4K rasterization performance which was by far the best value GPU of the RTX 4000 series. Unfortunately, the most limiting thing about the RTX 4090 is its DP port version, and its almost as if Nvidia planned this.

 

I'm the type that looks at the RTX 5090 and thinks, "the live service games I'm currently playing are CPU limited, not GPU limited because of my 4090, so the RTX 5090 doesn't make sense but a 9800x3D does". Instead I'm looking at this tablet because I'm bored of standard desktops again.

 

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Just now, SimplyChunk said:

No I was asking a new question based on your statement that "A lot of us already own 4090's"  I'm still rocking a 2070 Super personally and I still consider myself an enthusiast.  So I'm wondering what percentage is "A lot of us"

That's why I clarified because there's context you didn't understand. The types of enthusiasts that are talking about replacing an RTX 4090 with an RTX 5090 are a whole other class of consumers.

 

Basically everyone of those unreasonable consumers who'll simply buy the best product, the same to replace the 5800x3D with a 7800x3D to now a 9800x3D. That would be a far more interesting and useful poll for the topic you've quoted. There's been plenty of times I've fallen into the 'unreasonable consumer' class, RTX 4090 being no where close historically speaking.

 

Quoting me seems more like you're taking offense to my use of the word 'enthusiast' because you didn't drop an unreasonable amount of money on graphics cards within the last 5 years.

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40 minutes ago, WereCat said:

I could buy 4090 or 5090, it's not that I'm rich or anything but I managed to save something to afford it... but what the hell is even the point? Most new games suck and I keep returning to old games I've missed. The extra performance is no longer something I seek just for the sake of having better graphics. I find many new games to be visually bland with little to no style. It's just pointless. In over 10y I'm here this is the first time that for 2gens in a row I've never felt any itch to upgrade whatsoever. I think I'm finally free from the vicious cycle? 😄 (especially when my overclocked 6800XT I've got for 400eur almost 2y ago almost matches RX 7900XT which even now costs 50% more than what I've paid back then).

Hit the nail on the head

realism isnt bad but man when games actually had style like hollow knight, sly cooper and borderlands (not era specific btw) we got amazing games

Rn its "look realistic, buy" its souless and doesnt speak to anyone

I edit my posts for so if you saw a typo.... no you didn't, you are just crazy
 

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I got a lovely little 3060 but it seems to be broken every other day. 

But currently my computer is rocking a lovely Strix 1060 and doing absolutely amazing in games like Hogwarts Legacy, etc. 

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3 minutes ago, Millios said:

Hit the nail on the head

realism isnt bad but man when games actually had style like hollow knight, sly cooper and borderlands (not era specific btw) we got amazing games

Rn its "look realistic, buy" its souless and doesnt speak to anyone

Even a game like Warframe that can run 1080p medium on a handheld and impress a beached whale like me.

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5 minutes ago, Millios said:

Hit the nail on the head

realism isnt bad but man when games actually had style like hollow knight, sly cooper and borderlands (not era specific btw) we got amazing games

Rn its "look realistic, buy" its souless and doesnt speak to anyone

Here's a question.  Does Cyberpunk 2077 fall in to this soulless, real looking Pidgeon hole? or do the realistic graphics on top of a vastly unrealistic world pull it out of that? Maybe setting has something to do with it?

 With all the Trolls, Try Hards, Noobs and Weirdos around here you'd think i'd find SOMEWHERE to fit in!

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10 minutes ago, Agall said:

Then I'm a outlier in this because I bought an RTX 4090 for its 4K

Playing at 4K you most definitely are.  over half of steams users still use 1080p to this day.  I think 4K was about 5% give or take.  I was just trying to make a point that yes, people that buy the 4090 for gaming are all enthusiasts.  Just didn't want the other...82.76% (so far) of enthusiasts here (of which I'm a part) to feel washed out by a broad sweeping statement like the one you made.  "A lot of us" isn't even remotely close to the actual percentage of enthusiasts that own the same card that you do.

 With all the Trolls, Try Hards, Noobs and Weirdos around here you'd think i'd find SOMEWHERE to fit in!

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6 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

Playing at 4K you most definitely are.  over half of steams users still use 1080p to this day.  I think 4K was about 5% give or take.  I was just trying to make a point that yes, people that buy the 4090 for gaming are all enthusiasts.  Just didn't want the other...82.76% (so far) of enthusiasts here (of which I'm a part) to feel washed out by a broad sweeping statement like the one you made.  "A lot of us" isn't even remotely close to the actual percentage of enthusiasts that own the same card that you do.

Steam survey misleads heavily.


Steam surveys peoples laptops, steam survey will run when a TV isnt attached. Dont use steam survey to make conclusions like that. Like for some games, ill even hook up my laptop to a TV when traveling to play RE1Remake or jack box on 4k, the laptop only has mid range AMD APU. Its fine. That TV is never going to show up on the survey. that laptop will make erase the fact my desktop main monitor is QHD. 

Steam survey does not tell you that half the steam users are using 1080p, it shows that people have laptops as well that they will use to play casual games with. 

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1 hour ago, SimplyChunk said:

I was just trying to make a point that yes, people that buy the 4090 for gaming are all enthusiasts. 

You really are reading way too deep into this...

 

57 minutes ago, starsmine said:

Dont use steam survey to make conclusions like that.

OP got offended by how I used the term 'enthusiast' in a thread about how the RTX 5090 will probably end up $2500 retail for most people.

 

A lot of people bought the RTX 4090 because it was the best thing and have enough F-U money to drop another $2000-$2500 for an RTX 5090 and will probably buy it. A lot of them are probably not entirely unreasonable and realize the RTX 4090, even for 4K, is more than enough.

 

I fall into the latter camp where I'm largely CPU limited, even when I had my 7950x3D direct-die and fully tuned. I'm not alone in that because it turns out, a lot of live services games run into this problem. I'm out here telling people they probably shouldn't buy an RTX 5090, especially if they already have an RTX 4090 😄 

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3 hours ago, Millios said:

I mean... just cause you like ,for example super cars, doesnt mean you own any

Many dont have the money or can afford a 2000$+ gpu

Sure anyone would like the best of the best but it doesnt mean anyone can afford it

This..... I love the engineering behind super high end enthusiast cards.

 

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8 hours ago, SimplyChunk said:

Here's a question.  Does Cyberpunk 2077 fall in to this soulless, real looking Pidgeon hole? or do the realistic graphics on top of a vastly unrealistic world pull it out of that? Maybe setting has something to do with it?

For me, yes. 

It's not even looking good without Path Tracing and RT has its own visual issues in this game and SSR implementation is one of the worst I've seen in years. The annoying pop-in appears eveywhere especially when you drive a vehicle which is not that big of an issue on its own but the game is really trying hard to be "realistic" and it's failing miserably at it. 

 

The game world feels soulless when you want to just roam the city. Some missions are well done and I've enjoyed them but there's not many of them. 

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I only do a build every two to three generations. So when I start a new build I try and buy what ever is the best at the theme I'm going for. But I refuse to buy from scalpers and that would be the only reason I did not get a 3090 and ended up with a 3080. I skipped the 4000 series all together.

 

What I don't understand is why so many people care how much someone spend/overspend on their PC. Some people pick parts based on price to performance over aesthetics. Some buy parts based on aesthetics and performance over price. As long as you are happy with what you ended up with is all that should matter to you.

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