Long range internet setup

[Xaeres]

I have a relatively fast internet setup at around 600mbs running at my main house, and then i'd have to somehow get it over around 150m away to a mini-home
What are my options of doing that? 

[Donut417]

11 minutes ago, Xaeres said:

I have a relatively fast internet setup at around 600mbs running at my main house, and then i'd have to somehow get it over around 150m away to a mini-home
What are my options of doing that? 

Fiber optics or some type of site to site WiFi link would be the best options. 

[jaslion]

Burry a fiber cable in a proper electrical underground conduit and call it good.

[mariushm]

Fiber can be very cheap... you can get 150 (or more) meters of outdoor grade single mode fiber for under $100, with connectors preinstalled.

Then you just need a couple media converters, one at each end, and optionally transceivers if the media converters don't have the transceivers built in. That's 20-30$ a piece for the media converter, 8-15$ a piece for transceiver if needed.

 

Example of generic media converter that comes without transceiver, so you add transceiver with the connector you need for the fiber:  https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Ethernet-Converter-Supporting-MC220L/dp/B003CFATL0/

 

Example of media converters that come with built in transceivers, with SC connectors : https://www.amazon.com/Gigabit-Ethernet-Converter-1000Base-LX-1000Base-Tx/dp/B06XZ6CV6W/

 

Example of media converter that comes with preinstalled single mode LC duplex transceiver : https://www.amazon.com/MokerLink-Converter-Single-Mode-Ethernet-1000Base-LX/dp/B09MYXDCWL/

 

Example of transceiver that does single mode fiber, with LC connectors : https://www.fs.com/products/11775.html?now_cid=81

 

Fiber... random examples

 

.. 80$ for 150 meters single mode fiber with lc duplex connectors : https://www.amazon.com/Threlaco-Outdoor-Internet-Compatible-Friction/dp/B0D9XV2VFC/

 

75$ for 300 meters single mode fiber with SC connectors : https://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Fiber-Duplex-Connector-G657A2/dp/B0B5N7NWV9/

 

 

Ethernet would still work ... but not a straight 150 meter run, the maximum length between two devices is 100 meters, so you could work around this by adding a network switch or a repeater in the middle of the cable.

 

You can get switches or repeaters that are powered through Power Over Ethernet, so you can send the power through the same ethernet cable, and not have to send power through separate power cables.

 

For example, you put one of these in the middle of the cable :  https://www.amazon.com/Waterproof-Extender-NICGIGA-Repeater-Ethernet/dp/B0C1B9444K/

 

One ethernet cable in (that also gives it power, up to 30w), and the device has a 2 port network switch and also puts power on each output ethernet port if you want to use it.

 

You can use a power over ethernet injector to make your regular ethernet cable coming from your router, into a poe ethernet cable. Here's an example : https://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Ethernet-Injector-Distances-TPE-115GI/dp/B00BK4W8TQ/

 

So it would cost you around $50 + the cost of 150 meters of ethernet cable plus the hardware to attach the cable to trees or poles or whatever you decide to do.

 

 

other options ... if you have direct line of sight, there are very directional wireless antennas, you could beam a wireless signal to an antenna installed on your other building ... downside is quality will vary with the weather.

 

[Bdavis]

I use a ubiquiti point to point antenna between two properties and get gigabit throughout. It's been rock solid for about 3 years now.

[Apsis]

You can go wireless and get decent speed /especially if you are willing to violate some regulations/ NanoBeam AC will do for wireless.

 

However i would go Fiber optics (there are 10G manged switches for 40$ on AliExpress, along with 10G 10km SFP+ modules 40$ more for a pair and some pre-made 200m patch cord (100-200$)) Add some non-corroding wire and you CAN have 10G (or more) link on 150m for 200-300 USD if you do not mind the wire.

 

[Donut417]

11 minutes ago, Apsis said:

You can go wireless and get decent speed /especially if you are willing to violate some regulations/ NanoBeam AC will do for wireless.

 

However i would go Fiber optics (there are 10G manged switches for 40$ on AliExpress, along with 10G 10km SFP+ modules 40$ more for a pair and some pre-made 200m patch cord (100-200$)) Add some non-corroding wire and you CAN have 10G (or more) link on 150m for 200-300 USD if you do not mind the wire.

 

Not sure about where you live but in the US, violating those regulations results in $45k fine from the FCC. 

[Apsis]

Every crime is not punished, if you do not get caught.

Lower Tx power as much as possible, use as pinpoint antenna as possible and in distances of 100-200m the chance of someone figuring you are using frequency normal devices do not see is almost 0.

[NobleGamer]

1 hour ago, Apsis said:

You can go wireless and get decent speed /especially if you are willing to violate some regulations/ NanoBeam AC will do for wireless.

 

1 hour ago, Donut417 said:

Not sure about where you live but in the US, violating those regulations results in $45k fine from the FCC. 

 

I am not a lawyer nor an expert on FCC regulations, but people need to look up FCC regulations for their specific use of long range wifi transmission.

 

The last time I thought I looked at them, there were different power transmissions allowed for general access points and routers compared to point-to-point long range solutions.

 

Transmit power of consumer routers and APs haven't changed since like Wifi 4 or 5, and any gains in throughput or perceived range come from new frequency bands (like 6 GHz) or better data modulation (like QAM 1024).

 

This is what allows for something like the Nanobeam 5AC to get FCC certified. If it is configured or hacked in a way that allows FCC deviation, of course you are on your own.

[Apsis]

Look guys, i do agree with you, there is 100% no reason to "hack" and use licensed frequency, especially if there is little noise.

 

I have done this only for specific scenario involving 40cm concrete foundation i had to go trough.

Also for fun, but short term - just "to see" with WRT841V9 boosted to 1W via NVRAM hack and some 9db antennas,