what cooler should i upgrade to

[WolfOfValhalla]

im using a noctua nh d15 aircooler the problem is my temps still are getting rather hot im tryna cool my intel i7 12700kf cpu  an i think it may be time to upgrade coolers, im currently using a CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW case an ordered some thermal grizzly kryonnaut thermal paste , thinking bout upgrading coolers but idk where to go from noctua an aios kinda worry me as im new to pc building ,this is my first one i built myself an im scared ill mess up the aio an itll leak but im willing to try should i get pointed in the right direction

[Aleph256]

It might help if you told us what kind of CPU you're trying to cool.

[keskparane]

If the NHD15 is struggling then air would appear to be a problem.

 

IMO....

you should pull air in from the front and exit it out the rear, and possibly the top.

make sure you have more fans pulling in than pushing out so as to create positive pressure in the case, this prevents air coming in where you don't want it.

aim to push the GPU heat straight out the case. If your CPU is struggling with the NHD15 I would expect it's because of passive heat from your GPU

[WolfOfValhalla]

2 hours ago, Aleph256 said:

It might help if you told us what kind of CPU you're trying to cool.

intel i7 12700kf i put it in the post my bad

[WolfOfValhalla]

2 hours ago, keskparane said:

If the NHD15 is struggling then air would appear to be a problem.

 

IMO....

you should pull air in from the front and exit it out the rear, and possibly the top.

make sure you have more fans pulling in than pushing out so as to create positive pressure in the case, this prevents air coming in where you don't want it.

aim to push the GPU heat straight out the case. If your CPU is struggling with the NHD15 I would expect it's because of passive heat from your GPU

ohhhh i had 3 in 3 out 

[keskparane]

7 minutes ago, WolfOfValhalla said:

ohhhh i had 3 in 3 out 

Try just slowing down the top & rear fans in relation to the rest. Thing is you don't want to be pulling in air from the bottom of the back, you want to be slowly pushing air out there.

[WolfOfValhalla]

2 hours ago, keskparane said:

Try just slowing down the top & rear fans in relation to the rest. Thing is you don't want to be pulling in air from the bottom of the back, you want to be slowly pushing air out there.

ill get a pick of my air flow so i can get yalls thoughts on it soon im currently busy atm

[Aleph256]

8 minutes ago, WolfOfValhalla said:

ohhhh i had 3 in 3 out 

Well, you can still do that, but have the exhaust fans (back and top) run slower than the intake fans (front). Same results, and you can achieve it pretty easily with a dedicated software like FanControl.

 

As far as your initial question, the NHD15 shouldn't have issues cooling this CPU

What do your temps look like?

[WolfOfValhalla]

2 hours ago, Aleph256 said:

Well, you can still do that, but have the exhaust fans (back and top) run slower than the intake fans (front). Same results, and you can achieve it pretty easily with a dedicated software like FanControl.

 

As far as your initial question, the NHD15 shouldn't have issues cooling this CPU

What do your temps look like?

this is while playing escape from tarkov a game i have no issues with but if i run cinebench ,multicore or play greyzone warefare it makes my cpu thermal throttle hard

[RevGAM]

On 5/4/2024 at 5:49 PM, WolfOfValhalla said:

im using a noctua nh d15 aircooler the problem is my temps still are getting rather hot im tryna cool my intel i7 12700kf cpu  an i think it may be time to upgrade coolers, im currently using a CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW case an ordered some thermal grizzly kryonnaut thermal paste , thinking bout upgrading coolers but idk where to go from noctua an aios kinda worry me as im new to pc building ,this is my first one i built myself an im scared ill mess up the aio an itll leak but im willing to try should i get pointed in the right direction

If your D15 is struggling, it's likely because you have made a mistake. I can cool my 12700k with a U12A. What are your temps at idle and under heavy load like Cinebench? Check these:

1. thermal paste not applied correctly;
2. protective plastic on cooler's cold plate not removed;
3. cooler not mounted correctly;
4. fan curve too weak;
5. Case fans are messing up airflow.

Photo of your PC would help. 

[WolfOfValhalla]

2 hours ago, RevGAM said:

If your D15 is struggling, it's likely because you have made a mistake. I can cool my 12700k with a U12A. What are your temps at idle and under heavy load like Cinebench? Check these:

1. thermal paste not applied correctly;
2. protective plastic on cooler's cold plate not removed;
3. cooler not mounted correctly;
4. fan curve too weak;
5. Case fans are messing up airflow.

Photo of your PC would help. 

removed plastic from cooler i mounted it solidly but i could be wrong  , idle around 31-35c ,under HEAVY load like cinebench multicore it thermal throttles outright photo of pc coming now ive also had this pc for over a year now an this was the first time ive seen it thermal throttle

[RevGAM]

4 hours ago, WolfOfValhalla said:

removed plastic from cooler i mounted it solidly but i could be wrong  , idle around 31-35c ,under HEAVY load like cinebench multicore it thermal throttles outright photo of pc coming now ive also had this pc for over a year now an this was the first time ive seen it thermal throttle

I can run prime 95 with the u11a and it doesn't throttle. Please see if there's any looseness in how you mounted it. That could be the issue. What's your room temp?

[freeagent]

Your cooler is pointed the wrong way. It should be front to back, not breathing off the GPU backplate. If you are using low noise adaptors, that is not helping either.

[WolfOfValhalla]

2 hours ago, freeagent said:

Your cooler is pointed the wrong way. It should be front to back, not breathing off the GPU backplate. If you are using low noise adaptors, that is not helping either.

so not pointing up to my output fans? to the right is the front of my case should i have the fan on the cooler pointing that way?

[WolfOfValhalla]

2 hours ago, RevGAM said:

I can run prime 95 with the u11a and it doesn't throttle. Please see if there's any looseness in how you mounted it. That could be the issue. What's your room temp?

its not lose i cant wiggle it at all an when i clean my pc an repaste i make sure to tighten the mounting screws down

[Dedayog]

2 hours ago, WolfOfValhalla said:

so not pointing up to my output fans? to the right is the front of my case should i have the fan on the cooler pointing that way?

Correct.  You note that it's pushing heat up and out,but it's also taking HOT air off the back of the GPU.  That air can't cool the CPU, as it's saturated already.

 

You want  the cool air from the front to feed into the front of the CPU Cooler and out the back of the PC.  Do that.

[RevGAM]

I notice that you have 6 fans - 3 exhaust and 3 intake. Because of the dust filter in front, that means you're ultimately pulling more air out than you are pushing air in. There are two easy solutions.

1. Remove the front fan on top.
2. Change the fan curves for all 3 exhaust fans so that they run a bit slower than the intake fans. As long as the result is at least a slight breeze coming out of other parts of the case (cracks, holes), it's good.

[freeagent]

It just goes to show that even in the face of adversity those X3D chips run cool.

[WolfOfValhalla]

4 hours ago, RevGAM said:

I notice that you have 6 fans - 3 exhaust and 3 intake. Because of the dust filter in front, that means you're ultimately pulling more air out than you are pushing air in. There are two easy solutions.

1. Remove the front fan on top.
2. Change the fan curves for all 3 exhaust fans so that they run a bit slower than the intake fans. As long as the result is at least a slight breeze coming out of other parts of the case (cracks, holes), it's good.

noted i plan to repaste cpu on the 9th ill do it then also just to make clear,do i need more intake then exhaust fans? or vice versa

[Dedayog]

11 hours ago, WolfOfValhalla said:

noted i plan to repaste cpu on the 9th ill do it then also just to make clear,do i need more intake then exhaust fans? or vice versa

The dust filter isn't enough of an obstruction to make intake/exhaust unbalanced.  Leave it as is and enjoy the machine.   

 

Repaste, turn the CPU Cooler and be like all the rest of us 

[WolfOfValhalla]

2 hours ago, Dedayog said:

The dust filter isn't enough of an obstruction to make intake/exhaust unbalanced.  Leave it as is and enjoy the machine.   

 

Repaste, turn the CPU Cooler and be like all the rest of us 

noted i still need to get 2 new fans anyway as 2 went out recently

[Dedayog]

1 minute ago, WolfOfValhalla said:

noted i still need to get 2 new fans anyway as 2 went out recently

I'm sorry, did I miss this when you said it earlier?

What fans don't work?

[WolfOfValhalla]

2 hours ago, Dedayog said:

I'm sorry, did I miss this when you said it earlier?

What fans don't work?

no you didnt an in the pic the 2 black fans the one on the back an the middle one on the front

[RevGAM]

12 hours ago, WolfOfValhalla said:

noted i plan to repaste cpu on the 9th ill do it then also just to make clear,do i need more intake then exhaust fans? or vice versa

Intake is preferred as it reduces dust getting into the PC and components. 

 

28 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

The dust filter isn't enough of an obstruction to make intake/exhaust unbalanced.  Leave it as is and enjoy the machine.   

 

Repaste, turn the CPU Cooler and be like all the rest of us 

Have you actually tested the filter on that case? My tests have shown that dust filters have an impact. The more dust, the worse. Also, multiple reviewers have demonstrated this.

[WolfOfValhalla]

2 hours ago, RevGAM said:

Intake is preferred as it reduces dust getting into the PC and components. 

 

Have you actually tested the filter on that case? My tests have shown that dust filters have an impact. The more dust, the worse. Also, multiple reviewers have demonstrated this.

you talking to him or me about the filter? im just tryna make sure i do the best thing i can for my pc