Help me upgrade my sons PC please.

[podkall]

19 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

Tats will be ok but you might want to check the 5800X3D

5800x3d isn't worth if you can get 7600

[GreenLeaf]

10 minutes ago, podkall said:

5800x3d isn't worth if you can get 7600

He said for am4 for keeping the RAM and this CPU have a 3d v cache so i think its better than the 5800x he said

[filpo]

3 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

He said for am4 and it's have a 3d v cache so i think its better than the 5800x he said

5700X3D? you lose about 2% of performance while saving £60 

In some more intensive games the gap gets wider but they're using a 4090 here and not a 3060 ti so OP won't be bottlenecked either way

[GreenLeaf]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

5700X3D? you lose about 2% of performance while saving £60 

In some more intensive games the gap gets wider but they're using a 4090 here and not a 3060 ti so OP won't be bottlenecked either way

Yeah that's fine too

[GreenLeaf]

1 minute ago, GreenLeaf said:

Yeah that's fine too

I forgot that CPU exist 

[GreenLeaf]

3 minutes ago, filpo said:

5700X3D? you lose about 2% of performance while saving £60 

In some more intensive games the gap gets wider but they're using a 4090 here and not a 3060 ti so OP won't be bottlenecked either way

Btw i love Hogwarts legacy 

[filpo]

Just now, GreenLeaf said:

I forgot this CPU exist 

No worries, they're quite new (5600X3D isn't available outside of microcenter though)

 

14 minutes ago, podkall said:

5800x3d isn't worth if you can get 7600

if the ram is good enough then 'maybe' an upgrade to am4 could be viable with a 5700X3D and a ~£100 B550 with a PA120SE, the extra cache does come in handy in a few select games (benchmarks above)

If the ram is 3600 CL18 or 3200 CL16 then it'd be a bit of a toss-up

1 minute ago, GreenLeaf said:

Btw i love Hogwarts legacy 

it is REALLY demanding though, I haven't personally tried it (haven't got either the time or the money for it lol) but I know that a 7800X3D + 4090 system at 4k (native) with RT on ultra gets around 80 fps

[GreenLeaf]

12 minutes ago, filpo said:

No worries, they're quite new (5600X3D isn't available outside of microcenter though)

 

if the ram is good enough then 'maybe' an upgrade to am4 could be viable with a 5700X3D and a ~£100 B550 with a PA120SE, the extra cache does come in handy in a few select games (benchmarks above)

If the ram is 3600 CL18 or 3200 CL16 then it'd be a bit of a toss-up

it is REALLY demanding though, I haven't personally tried it (haven't got either the time or the money for it lol) but I know that a 7800X3D + 4090 system at 4k (native) with RT on ultra gets around 80 fps

First ur absolutely right about the upgrade and yeah Hogwarts legacy is really hard to run without fps drops even with something like a 4070ti

[podkall]

1 hour ago, filpo said:

if the ram is good enough then 'maybe' an upgrade to am4 could be viable with a 5700X3D and a ~£100 B550 with a PA120SE, the extra cache does come in handy in a few select games (benchmarks above)

If the ram is 3600 CL18 or 3200 CL16 then it'd be a bit of a toss-up

you still technically get same performance on 7600

[CMB1888]

Thanks everyone for the advice. Swithering between AM4 and AM5 and mindful of the upfront costs versus the potential need to upgrade in the nearer future.  Also remember when I was 14 there was no chance I was getting £400 (or whatever the 1986 equivalent was) spent on me for a birthday. 

Does this look reasonable?

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/amd-ryzen-5-7500f-six-core-5-0ghz-asus-prime-b650m-r-micro-atx-motherboard-cpu-bundle.html

Craig. 

 

 

[filpo]

5 minutes ago, CMB1888 said:

Thanks everyone for the advice. Swithering between AM4 and AM5 and mindful of the upfront costs versus the potential need to upgrade in the nearer future.  Also remember when I was 14 there was no chance I was getting £400 (or whatever the 1986 equivalent was) spent on me for a birthday. 

Does this look reasonable?

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/amd-ryzen-5-7500f-six-core-5-0ghz-asus-prime-b650m-r-micro-atx-motherboard-cpu-bundle.html

Craig. 

 

 

Its OK, I’d get a 7500f from Ali express for 113 pounds and then get a good msi b650 gaming plus wifi for 150 pounds (and the msi has much better vrms and features

[CMB1888]

3 hours ago, filpo said:

Its OK, I’d get a 7500f from Ali express for 113 pounds and then get a good msi b650 gaming plus wifi for 150 pounds (and the msi has much better vrms and features

Ah, that's where you found it for £113.  I will take a look, thanks. 

[CMB1888]

Thanks everyone for the advice. In the end I told him to work it out. Good practice for him. He settled on the one I linked to above and 32gig of DDR5.  New MB not recognising the old M.2 drive but that is a thread for another forum. 

 

Thanks all.