Posted April 27 https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/XbYgfy Budget (including currency): 850€ Country: Finland Use-cases: light to mid/heavy-tier gaming(e.g minecraft and cs2) on 1080p, coding, and general web browsing. designed to be a mid range pc with decent future-proofing options i use arch btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27 25 minutes ago, HarmlessPotato12 said: https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/XbYgfy Budget (including currency): 850€ Country: Finland Use-cases: light to mid/heavy-tier gaming(e.g minecraft and cs2) on 1080p, coding, and general web browsing. designed to be a mid range pc with decent future-proofing options i use arch btw That 4060 8gb could be replaced with a cheaper 3060 12gb if you can still find one somewhere, they're about the same performace. Or you could pick an AMD gpu. Your cpu doesn't have an igpu. It's always good to have it as backup incase the gpu breaks. Unless you have a spare gpu you can put in if that happens. 550w powersupply, seems abit low if you're thinking to upgrade to something better or add more drives later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27 14 minutes ago, Mumintroll said: Your cpu doesn't have an igpu. It's always good to have it as backup incase the gpu breaks. I wouldn't exactly recommend switching to a 5600G though. Since it has way less cache and slower speeds, as well as less PCIe bandwidth. 47 minutes ago, HarmlessPotato12 said: designed to be a mid range pc with decent future-proofing options The MSI PSU is the only real shortcoming overall, their warranty service is pretty terrible Consider this instead https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/TMBG3C/be-quiet-system-power-10-550-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-bn327 I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B Primary PC: i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me. Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference. How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27 Author 5 minutes ago, Fasauceome said: Consider this instead https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/TMBG3C/be-quiet-system-power-10-550-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-bn327 thanks i think im gonna go with the be quiet! System Power 10 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply with a slightly higher wattage for better future-proofing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27 1 hour ago, Mumintroll said: That 4060 8gb could be replaced with a cheaper 3060 12gb if you can still find one somewhere, they're about the same performace. Or you could pick an AMD gpu. Your cpu doesn't have an igpu. It's always good to have it as backup incase the gpu breaks. Unless you have a spare gpu you can put in if that happens. 550w powersupply, seems abit low if you're thinking to upgrade to something better or add more drives later on. I wouldn't unless I was 1440p: pretty good build, if you want your SSD to last bit longer, consider Teamgroup MP44L Note: Users receive notifications after Mentions & Quotes. Feel free to ask any questions regarding my comments/build lists. I know a lot about PCs but not everything. PC: Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti PCs I used before: Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050 Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050 Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27 1 hour ago, HarmlessPotato12 said: https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/XbYgfy Budget (including currency): 850€ Country: Finland Use-cases: light to mid/heavy-tier gaming(e.g minecraft and cs2) on 1080p, coding, and general web browsing. designed to be a mid range pc with decent future-proofing options i use arch btw try this. May be a bit of a bottleneck though PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (€132.90 @ Jimm's) Motherboard: *ASRock B550M Phantom Gaming 4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€95.90 @ Jimm's) Memory: *Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€42.90 @ Datatronic) Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€68.90 @ Datatronic) Video Card: *MSI MECH 2X Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card (€425.00 @ Datatronic) Case: *Zalman S2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€52.75 @ Proshop) Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€78.92 @ Proshop) Total: €897.27 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-28 00:24 EEST+0300 Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27 11 minutes ago, filpo said: try this. May be a bit of a bottleneck though PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (€132.90 @ Jimm's) Motherboard: *ASRock B550M Phantom Gaming 4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€95.90 @ Jimm's) Memory: *Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€42.90 @ Datatronic) Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€68.90 @ Datatronic) Video Card: *MSI MECH 2X Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card (€425.00 @ Datatronic) Case: *Zalman S2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€52.75 @ Proshop) Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€78.92 @ Proshop) Total: €897.27 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-28 00:24 EEST+0300 I guess you could reduce it with PBO, idk if it's worth paying 100€ more for 12% boost going from ~300 to ~400€ Note: Users receive notifications after Mentions & Quotes. Feel free to ask any questions regarding my comments/build lists. I know a lot about PCs but not everything. PC: Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti PCs I used before: Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050 Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050 Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27 2 minutes ago, podkall said: I guess you could reduce it with PBO, I use it with my 3060 (undervolt not OC) and there's sometimes a bit of a cpu bottleneck at 1080p, not too bad tho 2 minutes ago, podkall said: idk if it's worth paying 100€ more for 12% boost going from ~300 to ~400€ I was comparing it to their original build (where mine is 40 euros more), in which case mine would have less ram but the gpu would be better with more vram and a better psu Though if we look at it like this, yes, it's not the best value, paying 33% more for only 12% more performance Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27 Author 3 minutes ago, podkall said: idk if it's worth paying 100€ more for 12% boost going from ~300 to ~400€ yea its not worth it for me im just looking for decent performance and future-proofing options heres the current list: https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/Wqd9HG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27 1 minute ago, filpo said: I use it with my 3060 (undervolt not OC) and there's sometimes a bit of a cpu bottleneck at 1080p, not too bad tho define bottleneck, u got a 12 thread CPU, not all games use 12 threads even if there's background programs that may do that 2 minutes ago, HarmlessPotato12 said: yea its not worth it for me im just looking for decent performance and future-proofing options heres the current list: https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/Wqd9HG it's a pretty solid build, unless you have gazillion open Chrome tabs and 50 Discords, Skypes, anti-cheats, Steams, Epic Games, other software, 16GB should be enough, I have 16GB myself, though I mainly just play games and do general stuff on my PC. Note: Users receive notifications after Mentions & Quotes. Feel free to ask any questions regarding my comments/build lists. I know a lot about PCs but not everything. PC: Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti PCs I used before: Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050 Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050 Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27 Just now, podkall said: define bottleneck high cpu usage and slight/infrequent stutters (for me) 1 minute ago, podkall said: not all games use 12 threads even if there's background programs that may do that only thing in background is msi afterburner 4 minutes ago, HarmlessPotato12 said: yea its not worth it for me im just looking for decent performance and future-proofing options heres the current list: https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/Wqd9HG change the mobo (and some others) PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (€132.90 @ Jimm's) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€36.90 @ Datatronic) Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€101.90 @ Datatronic) Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (€73.90 @ Datatronic) Storage: Lexar NM760 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€69.90 @ Datatronic) Video Card: Asus DUAL EVO OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card (€329.90 @ Jimm's) Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€45.90 @ Datatronic) Power Supply: Deepcool PK650D 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€57.90 @ Datatronic) Total: €849.20 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-28 00:48 EEST+0300 Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27 Just now, filpo said: high cpu usage and slight/infrequent stutters (for me) what games? I do get very mild stutters myself but only in specific re-occurring situations where it isn't that problematic and could be caused by the source being stored on HDD, 1 minute ago, filpo said: only thing in background is msi afterburner same + 3-6 more apps 2 minutes ago, filpo said: change the mobo (and some others) PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (€132.90 @ Jimm's) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€36.90 @ Datatronic) Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€101.90 @ Datatronic) Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (€73.90 @ Datatronic) Storage: Lexar NM760 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€69.90 @ Datatronic) Video Card: Asus DUAL EVO OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card (€329.90 @ Jimm's) Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€45.90 @ Datatronic) Power Supply: Deepcool PK650D 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€57.90 @ Datatronic) Total: €849.20 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-28 00:48 EEST+0300 hmmm, the mb + 32GB is nice, hard to say which PSU is better, SP10 isn't on tierlist but I'd guess it could be speculative B tier? Note: Users receive notifications after Mentions & Quotes. Feel free to ask any questions regarding my comments/build lists. I know a lot about PCs but not everything. PC: Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti PCs I used before: Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050 Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050 Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27 1 minute ago, podkall said: speculative B tier? ye sounds right. PK650D saves about 15 euros while being in C 1 minute ago, podkall said: what games? Rocket league occasionally and PCBS2 (but I'm assuming it's just unoptimized) Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27 Author 5 minutes ago, filpo said: change the mobo (and some others) PCPartPicker Part List i like this list but i think 32gb is a bit overkill for my need rn (usually gaming on main monitor while youtube/netflix open on second monitor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27 3 minutes ago, filpo said: ye sounds right. PK650D saves about 15 euros while being in C Rocket league occasionally and PCBS2 (but I'm assuming it's just unoptimized) stutters in RL? that's weird I don't think I saw myself stutter in there while rocking my older gear, 2 minutes ago, HarmlessPotato12 said: i like this list but i think 32gb is a bit overkill for my need rn (usually gaming on main monitor while youtube/netflix open on second monitor) if you can manage with 16GB it can still be good enough, while having 2 sticks is better than 4 sticks in potential future, it's still that time period where you might be already upgrading whole PC before you're forced to upgrade ram Note: Users receive notifications after Mentions & Quotes. Feel free to ask any questions regarding my comments/build lists. I know a lot about PCs but not everything. PC: Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti PCs I used before: Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050 Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050 Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27 Author if i just go with this list will the build be a good mid-range pc in 2024 and provide enough future-proofing options to remain solid for at least a few years? if not, how to make potential changes to achieve this goal https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/j4BjMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 28 yes, in 4+ years, i guarantee the 5800x3d will be perfectly capable and that would be your next upgrade. and then a 5070 or whatever the fuck there is then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 28 9 hours ago, HarmlessPotato12 said: if i just go with this list will the build be a good mid-range pc in 2024 and provide enough future-proofing options to remain solid for at least a few years? if not, how to make potential changes to achieve this goal https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/j4BjMV Yes it will be perfectly fine for all these Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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