gpu Is the rx 7700 xt a goob substitute for a 4060 ti 16gb?

[Millios]

Im wondering which gpu is actually a better buy for 1440p gaming and video editing.
Which is a better/more worth of the money?
rx 7700 xt at 435 euros 
or
rtx 4060 ti 16 gb 455 euros

[TatamiMatt]

21 minutes ago, Millios said:

Im wondering which gpu is actually a better buy for 1440p gaming and video editing.
Which is a better/more worth of the money?
rx 7700 xt at 435 euros 
or
rtx 4060 ti 16 gb 455 euros

7700xt, by a decent margin, though pulls about 1/3 - 1/2 extra power compared to 4060Ti

 

Nvidia will be better at the video editing side of things but nothing super noticable

 

Id personally choose the 7700xt and thats diregarding the fact its cheaper too

[DreamCat04]

5 minutes ago, Millios said:

Im wondering which gpu is actually a better buy for 1440p gaming and video editing.
Which is a better/more worth of the money?
rx 7700 xt at 435 euros 
or
rtx 4060 ti 16 gb 455 euros

I wouldn't get the 4060 Ti 16GB, it barely profits from the extra 8GB of VRAM and it's much more expensive than the 8GB variant. I'd get the 7700XT unless you care about ray tracing or every possible second saved exporting a video with a slight increase in general editing performance

[Millios]

1 minute ago, DreamCat04 said:

I wouldn't get the 4060 Ti 16GB, it barely profits from the extra 8GB of VRAM and it's much more expensive than the 8GB variant. I'd get the 7700XT unless you care about ray tracing or every possible second saved exporting a video with a slight increase in general editing performance

as long as i can render it relatively fast (my curretn system takes a few hours for a 10-15min 1080p vid) and not watch it playback at 5 fps (Without a slow down to check every frame ofc) im fine. I'll also get a gpu with integrated graphics (ryzen 5 7600) so thatll help a bit as well. Ray tracing isnt a huge issue as well cause even for games like spiderman 2018, miles morales or spiderman 2 i dont REALLY care about ray tracing as long i can see whats going on without downscaling or pixaltion or even worse assets not loading

[Millios]

29 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

7700xt, by a decent margin, though pulls about 1/3 - 1/2 extra power compared to 4060Ti

 

Nvidia will be better at the video editing side of things but nothing super noticable

 

Id personally choose the 7700xt and thats diregarding the fact its cheaper too

Now, ill be using resolve for editing. in terms of rendering and playback (disregarding cached frames) would the difference be big? Im talking actually big like maybe an hour or smt like that. Power isnt a huge issue as 1) I change the power drawn at settings and dont overclock or boost it much 2) i wont play smt SO heavy or do smt SO radical to really push it to need more power.

[TatamiMatt]

10 minutes ago, Millios said:

as long as i can render it relatively fast (my curretn system takes a few hours for a 10-15min 1080p vid) and not watch it playback at 5 fps (Without a slow down to check every frame ofc) im fine. I'll also get a gpu with integrated graphics (ryzen 5 7600) so thatll help a bit as well. Ray tracing isnt a huge issue as well cause even for games like spiderman 2018, miles morales or spiderman 2 i dont REALLY care about ray tracing as long i can see whats going on without downscaling or pixaltion or even worse assets not loading

Whats your current specs?

[Millios]

Just now, TatamiMatt said:

Whats your current specs?

i5 430m
8gb ram (i believe ddr3)
gtx 1050
Its a prebuild for about 350 euro from 2017.
I'll be making a WHOLE new system and im asking to find the best fitting parts

[TatamiMatt]

1 minute ago, Millios said:

i5 430m
8gb ram (i believe ddr3)
gtx 1050
Its a prebuild for about 350 euro from 2017.
I'll be making a WHOLE new system and im asking to find the best fitting parts

They sold you that processor in 2017? it was 7 years old already

 

Yeah the 7700xt will be a MASSIVE upgrade over the 1050

 

This is the 6800xt vs 1050Ti, both are slightly better than their counterparts (7700xt and 1050 respectively) so dont look at the numbers but the comparison should be similar

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Just now, Millios said:

i5 430m
8gb ram (i believe ddr3)
gtx 1050
Its a prebuild for about 350 euro from 2017.
I'll be making a WHOLE new system and im asking to find the best fitting parts

the 430m is a 14 year old laptop cpu

you sure it isnt a skylake or kabylake system?

 

for stuff that you can reuse usually storage is always reusable but you may or may not be able to reuse the psu aswell

 

1 hour ago, Millios said:

rx 7700 xt at 435 euros 
or
rtx 4060 ti 16 gb 455 euros

anything lower than a 4070 isnt worth buying

used 6800xt and 3080 will outperform the 7700xt by quite abit and also be cheaper (~350€) or if your used market is bad at worst theyll be somewhat close to the pricing of that new 7700xt

 

best option would be a used 6800xt/6950xt or a 3080(ti)

 

all gpus mentioned are shown in the review above

[Millios]

1 minute ago, TatamiMatt said:

They sold you that processor in 2017? it was 7 years old already

 

Yeah the 7700xt will be a MASSIVE upgrade over the 1050

 

This is the 6800xt vs 1050Ti, both are slightly better than their counterparts (7700xt and 1050 respectively) so dont look at the numbers but the comparison should be similar

I mean for 300-350 euro for stuff like fortnite i couldnt really complain plus i didnt really know. But thanks. ill take a look at the raw stats as well but i have seen that they are similar or at least comparable (4060 ti 16gb vs 7700xt i mean) but ill look at some more vids and sources.

[Millios]

2 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

the 430m is a 14 year old laptop cpu

you sure it isnt a skylake or kabylake system?

 

for stuff that you can reuse usually storage is always reusable but you may or may not be able to reuse the psu aswell

 

anything lower than a 4070 isnt worth buying

used 6800xt and 3080 will outperform the 7700xt by quite abit and also be cheaper (~350€) or if your used market is bad at worst theyll be somewhat close to the pricing of that new 7700xt

 

best option would be a used 6800xt/6950xt or a 3080(ti)

 

all gpus mentioned are shown in the review above

The prebuild i got is from a domestic company in greece. The branding at least in the box is global x tho.
As for the alternatives sadly they are over 500 euros for me so its a no go. Would the 7700xt be a good option tho? alternatives aside

[Somerandomtechyboi]

11 minutes ago, Millios said:

The prebuild i got is from a domestic company in greece. The branding at least in the box is global x tho.
As for the alternatives sadly they are over 500 euros for me so its a no go. Would the 7700xt be a good option tho? alternatives aside

over 500€ used?

god damn thats a horrible used market

 

if your used market is that bad then the 7700xt is the best option cause the 4060ti is trash

[Millios]

Just now, Somerandomtechyboi said:

over 500€ used?

god damn thats a horrible used market

 

if your used market is that bad then the 7700xt is the best option cause the 4060ti is trash

Used is simply not an option sadly precisly cause anybody who cares enough in my country keeps them. over 500 is for new as its the only available option to me

[Somerandomtechyboi]

2 minutes ago, Millios said:

Used is simply not an option sadly precisly cause anybody who cares enough in my country keeps them. over 500 is for new as its the only available option to me

how about the 6800 non xt?

those have 16gb of vram and should still be abit faster than the 7700xt

[Millios]

3 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

how about the 6800 non xt?

those have 16gb of vram and should still be abit faster than the 7700xt

cheapest is 530 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

28 minutes ago, Millios said:

cheapest is 530 

yeah just go for the 7700xt or even the 7800xt

[Salted Spinach]

Both 4060 Ti and 7700XT use only 8 PCIE lanes. So if your CPU and motherboard does not support PCIE gen 4, you are going to be bandwidth bottlenecked.

 

If that is the case, get a 6800 instead

 

You have been warned

[ulookuglynoob]

22 minutes ago, Salted Spinach said:

Both 4060 Ti and 7700XT use only 8 PCIE lanes. So if your CPU and motherboard does not support PCIE gen 4, you are going to be bandwidth bottlenecked.

 

If that is the case, get a 6800 instead

 

You have been warned

well, he gonna be bottlenecked anyway, since his CPU is a 430m. Id prioritize that first.

[Millios]

44 minutes ago, Salted Spinach said:

Both 4060 Ti and 7700XT use only 8 PCIE lanes. So if your CPU and motherboard does not support PCIE gen 4, you are going to be bandwidth bottlenecked.

 

If that is the case, get a 6800 instead

 

You have been warned

For my mobo im going with an MSI b650 gaming plus wifi. It says it has gen 4 pcie slots and the the cpu (ryzen 5 7600) says it can support gen 5. Would that be an issue? or does the fact it supports gen 5 mean it can also support gen 4?

[Ripred]

6 hours ago, DreamCat04 said:

I wouldn't get the 4060 Ti 16GB, it barely profits from the extra 8GB of VRAM and it's much more expensive than the 8GB variant. I'd get the 7700XT unless you care about ray tracing or every possible second saved exporting a video with a slight increase in general editing performance

7700xt raytraces higher fps than the 4060ti

[Salted Spinach]

7 minutes ago, Millios said:

For my mobo im going with an MSI b650 gaming plus wifi. It says it has gen 4 pcie slots and the the cpu (ryzen 5 7600) says it can support gen 5. Would that be an issue? or does the fact it supports gen 5 mean it can also support gen 4?

Ah, with Ryzen 5 you won't run in to the bandwidth bottleneck.

 

In this case I would pick the 7700XT. Performs close to the 4070 and you can get good framerate at native 1440p