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2 hours ago, ruzoid said:

I'm picking parts for my first build and have been debating on if I should get the Ryzen 5 5600 with the B450 motherboard or the i3-12100f with the B660 motherboard. (they come at almost the same price where I live and I'm on a low budget)

I would probably say 5600 is the better cpu. While I don't know which specific motherboard you are referring to. If I remember correctly, the major difference of this boards is pcie 4.0 support. Meaning since b450 don't support it, even if you have an gen 4.0 nvme that has a 5000-7000mb/s read speed, it will only run at 3.0 speed, around 3500(in real world performance around 3000-3300mb/s). It could also bottleneck those entry level gpus with only 4lanes like 6400 and 6500xt. One of the reason why even if there's like a converted $10-20 difference, it's might be advisable to just get a b550.

You might also want to consider your upgrade path. The highest CPU for gaming that you can upgrade to for the AM4 platform is a 5700x3d or 5800x3d. While for the 1700 platform, it's 13th and 14th gen. the ryzen x3d cpu are great, but at this point, a 13600k is same or better than the 5800x3d for gaming and better for productivity. Or you can also check 7500f or 7600 build, so that it would have a better upgrade path, but this would probably a minimum of $50-100 higher. Because other than the increase in cpu, you would also be getting a ddr5 ram.

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I'm picking parts for my first build and have been debating on if I should get the Ryzen 5 5600 with the B450 motherboard or the i3-12100f with the B660 motherboard. (they come at almost the same price where I live and I'm on a low budget)

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2 hours ago, ruzoid said:

I'm picking parts for my first build and have been debating on if I should get the Ryzen 5 5600 with the B450 motherboard or the i3-12100f with the B660 motherboard. (they come at almost the same price where I live and I'm on a low budget)

I would probably say 5600 is the better cpu. While I don't know which specific motherboard you are referring to. If I remember correctly, the major difference of this boards is pcie 4.0 support. Meaning since b450 don't support it, even if you have an gen 4.0 nvme that has a 5000-7000mb/s read speed, it will only run at 3.0 speed, around 3500(in real world performance around 3000-3300mb/s). It could also bottleneck those entry level gpus with only 4lanes like 6400 and 6500xt. One of the reason why even if there's like a converted $10-20 difference, it's might be advisable to just get a b550.

You might also want to consider your upgrade path. The highest CPU for gaming that you can upgrade to for the AM4 platform is a 5700x3d or 5800x3d. While for the 1700 platform, it's 13th and 14th gen. the ryzen x3d cpu are great, but at this point, a 13600k is same or better than the 5800x3d for gaming and better for productivity. Or you can also check 7500f or 7600 build, so that it would have a better upgrade path, but this would probably a minimum of $50-100 higher. Because other than the increase in cpu, you would also be getting a ddr5 ram.

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If you go AMD, which is a great platform. I have a 5600x myself, see if you can squeeze out the money for a 5700x3d. When you have your 5600 you probably don't wanna pay full price for another cpu that gives a "minor" uplift in performance down the line. That's my issue. It's better at this point to go all in. IF your budget allows it. I can fully understand if it's not possible. 

In any case the 5600 is a very good cpu 

mITX is awesome! I regret nothing (apart from when picking parts or have to do maintainance *cough*cough*)

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