I have a little touble to chose

[Giino]

Budget (including currency): 2000€

Country: Italy

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: this pc will be mostly used for streaming and gaming in FiveM and some AAA game at 1440p

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 
 

Cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor Mobo:Asus PRIME X670-P ATX AM5 Motherboard Cooler: Thermalright peerless assassin 120 Ram: Corsair Vengence 32gb 6000Mhz Cl 30 Ssd Wd black 2tb NVME Gpu: Pny 4070 super   at the time this is my idea for the new build but i was considering an i5-13600kf can someone can help me to make this choice?

 

[TatamiMatt]

8 minutes ago, Giino said:

Budget (including currency): 2000€

Country: Italy

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: this pc will be mostly used for streaming and gaming in FiveM and some AAA game at 1440p

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 
 

Cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor Mobo:Asus PRIME X670-P ATX AM5 Motherboard Cooler: Thermalright peerless assassin 120 Ram: Corsair Vengence 32gb 6000Mhz Cl 30 Ssd Wd black 2tb NVME Gpu: Pny 4070 super   at the time this is my idea for the new build but i was considering an i5-13600kf can someone can help me to make this choice?

 

Id go for a B650 board as youre paying extra for the X670 board for no real benefit

 

Id also get the phantom spirit, slightly upgraded version of that cooler at next to no extra cost

 

Other than that, all good, 7800X3D is the best gaming cpu currently on the market, no competition, it beats a 14900K most of the time, so the 13600K wont compete

[TatamiMatt]

16 minutes ago, Giino said:

Budget (including currency): 2000€

Country: Italy

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: this pc will be mostly used for streaming and gaming in FiveM and some AAA game at 1440p

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 
 

Cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor Mobo:Asus PRIME X670-P ATX AM5 Motherboard Cooler: Thermalright peerless assassin 120 Ram: Corsair Vengence 32gb 6000Mhz Cl 30 Ssd Wd black 2tb NVME Gpu: Pny 4070 super   at the time this is my idea for the new build but i was considering an i5-13600kf can someone can help me to make this choice?

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/KcVxmD

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€393.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€169.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€126.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€116.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€979.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  (€78.69 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€114.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2017.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-25 15:37 CET+0100

 

Not sure on case or motherboard but if you take the above you can get a 7900xtx, to pair with the 7800X3D, on par with or better than a 4080 Super

 

And its a case with good airflow and a quite a nice motherboard for decently cheap

 

A large GPU upgrade

[Somerandomtechyboi]

3 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Id go for a B650 board as youre paying extra for the X670 board for no real benefit

^^^

b650m hdv is probably all you need, vrms already capable of handing an oced 7950x, ddr5 10000+ capability, and 14 usb a + 2 usb c if you combine rear i/o + internal headers, better boards you only get faster and/or more usb ports alongside even more overkill vrms for the most part

 

also 2000€ for a 4070s is really weak unless you are also buying peripherals so check your spending, common mistakes would be overpriced ssd ?which that wd probably is and you should get a cheaper ssd like the xs70, s70 blade, 250s/h, etc. overpriced psu (rmx is still decent even if overpriced, just not the god damn rme with the loud fan and only 7 year warranty), pricey case (personal preference)

[TatamiMatt]

2 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

^^^

b650m hdv is probably all you need, vrms already capable of handing an oced 7950x, ddr5 10000+ capability, and 14 usb a + 2 usb c if you combine rear i/o + internal headers, better boards you only get faster and/or more usb ports alongside even more overkill vrms for the most part

 

also 2000€ for a 4070s is really weak unless you are also buying peripherals so check your spending, common mistakes would be overpriced ssd ?which that wd probably is and you should get a cheaper ssd like the xs70, s70 blade, 250s/h, etc. overpriced psu (rmx is still decent even if overpriced, just not the god damn rme with the loud fan and only 7 year warranty), pricey case (personal preference)

You and your aversion to RMe's, theyre not that bad 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/bKMzxH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€393.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€146.33 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€126.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€116.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€979.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  (€78.69 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€134.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2013.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-25 15:42 CET+0100

 

Lower tier motherboard and RMx PSU then on @Somerandomtechyboi's suggestion @Giino

[Somerandomtechyboi]

2 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

You and your aversion to RMe's, theyre not that bad 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/bKMzxH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€393.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€146.33 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€126.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€116.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€979.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  (€78.69 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€134.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2013.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-25 15:42 CET+0100

 

Lower tier motherboard and RMx PSU then on @Somerandomtechyboi's suggestion @Giino

bruh i posted that before i even saw your list =p

 

still though there are better cheaper psus than the rme and yes id just get a 1000w instead of an 850w rmx but atleast when compared to the rme the rmx is pretty forgivable now since it atleast has a 10 year warranty

 

and what about those loud fan noise complaints when i search up "rme loud fan" alongside 1 or 2 threads on these forums? have they fixed that or no? cause the 7 year warranty is already bad enough and you also get a loud fan whilst still paying a premium for the rm naming

[TatamiMatt]

9 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

bruh i posted that before i even saw your list =p

 

still though there are better cheaper psus than the rme and yes id just get a 1000w instead of an 850w rmx but atleast when compared to the rme the rmx is pretty forgivable now since it atleast has a 10 year warranty

 

and what about those loud fan noise complaints when i search up "rme loud fan" alongside 1 or 2 threads on these forums? have they fixed that or no? cause the 7 year warranty is already bad enough and you also get a loud fan whilst still paying a premium for the rm naming

dont get me wrong, theyre not great either, not defending, just playing devils advocate, but they are a decently cheap option if you dont mind the noise, and depending on where you are in the world cheaper than some other options (was one of the cheapest A tier PSUs i could get my hands on for, well, cheap)

[Somerandomtechyboi]

4 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

dont get me wrong, theyre not great either, not defending, just playing devils advocate, but they are a decently cheap option if you dont mind the noise, and depending on where you are in the world cheaper than some other options (was one of the cheapest A tier PSUs i could get my hands on for, well, cheap)

decently cheap?

here it seems like it but even if its the cheapest half decent option here still makes no sense when an extra 10€ will get you an a850gf with a 10 year warranty

 

seems pretty rare for the rme to be an actually decent choice cause if it were then id probably use it alot more instead of going for a 1000w udgm or an 850w gf1 or ditching new altogether and reccomending a used 850w rm(x) and equivalent units

[TatamiMatt]

Just now, Somerandomtechyboi said:

decently cheap?

here it seems like it but even if its the cheapest half decent option here still makes no sense when an extra 10€ will get you an a850gf with a 10 year warranty

 

seems pretty rare for the rme to be an actually decent choice cause if it were then id probably use it alot more instead of going for a 1000w udgm or an 850w gf1 or ditching new altogether and reccomending a used 850w rm(x) and equivalent units

You're not wrong, though for me it was on offer and more than £20 cheaper than any of those, i think the RM850x was £135.99 at the time, i got my rm850e for 104.99 then, now though its actually more expensive than an rm850x or any of the above options (a couple pence but still more expensive for a worse option)

[BahnStormer]

Above recommendations look good... also not sure I'd recommend a X670, even with a fairly good budget  Unless you need that many extra PCIe lanes (M.2 slots)?

 

Slight tweak on the above with some personal preferences on RAM/motherboard, but I realise it takes it to €2100... but jus tin case you wanted some alternative ideas.
 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€393.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€75.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€176.83 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€152.80 @ Alternate Italia) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€147.44 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€979.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case  (€68.58 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€114.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2108.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-25 16:14 CET+0100

[Somerandomtechyboi]

47 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

You're not wrong, though for me it was on offer and more than £20 cheaper than any of those, i think the RM850x was £135.99 at the time, i got my rm850e for 104.99 then, now though its actually more expensive than an rm850x or any of the above options (a couple pence but still more expensive for a worse option)

yea you really gotta sort by lowest and scroll on pcpp to find a decent unit thats cheap with a 10 year warranty

[Linuswasright]

1 hour ago, TatamiMatt said:

You and your aversion to RMe's, theyre not that bad 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/bKMzxH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€393.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€146.33 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€126.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€116.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€979.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  (€78.69 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€134.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2013.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-25 15:42 CET+0100

 

Lower tier motherboard and RMx PSU then on @Somerandomtechyboi's suggestion @Giino

Wdyt of this? Bm3 if you want. It’s kinda just the Nvidia version, though 7900xtx would work too. Iirc Nvidia is marginally better at streaming and stuff, but there’s no big difference. 7900xtx would be better imo
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/f7fXBL

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€393.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€176.48 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€126.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€116.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE V2 GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (€1139.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  (€78.69 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 10 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€83.95 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2154.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-25 17:24 CET+0100

[Giino]

thank all of you for your suggestion the thing is that I got the GPU already because I found a good deal on the GPU and some other parts thanks to the spring sale on Amazon but i will surely save some more money for your suggestion as the PSU i got a corsair rm1000e with some thoughts on possible future upgrade the same thought i got for choosing amd as cpu right now i will use the extra money for other things like can you suggest a good 1440p monitor 27"

[BahnStormer]

On 3/25/2024 at 7:47 PM, Giino said:

 can you suggest a good 1440p monitor 27"

Depends on budget really: I'd be looking at something like the Gigabyte M27Q-P (~€300) as they're decent and I like the KVM as I switch my three screens back and forth between my work laptop docking station and desktop.

 

I have the older predecessor to this (the M27Q) and thinking of stepping things up for the replacement, something like the ASUS ROG Swift PG27AQDM, but you're looking at €1100 for one of those.... struggling to justify replacing this unless I can afford to go up to OLED.

This would be my place to go for ideas....

Then once you have your shortlist, search on YouTube for "Monitors Unboxed Monitor name" (e.g. "Monitors Unboxed ASUS PG27AQDM"/"Monitors Unboxed Gigabyte M27Q-P").