lowfps Low CPU-GPU utilizaiton, Low FPS

[garlixbread]

While playing  games like Fortnite, Outer Worlds, Ghostwire Tokyo with my GTX 1070, I get frame drops into low 40s-50s at every single setting while looking at areas with buildings for some reason, with 60% GPU and CPU utilization (CPU utilization sometimes goes to 100% but goes back down) while getting these low frames.. All online benchmarks show much higher fps with a setup similiar to mine. Specs below:
GTX 1070
Ryzen 5 2400g
MSI B350m Pro-Vdh
Samsung 2x8 DDR4 2666mhz 2X4 DDR4 2400mhz (Running at 2133 mhz as I cannot enable XMP)
Aerocool 600w 80+ bronze PSU
Twinmos SATA 512 GB SSD
Windows 10 Home
I'm also sure that my computer is utilizing the GTX 1070 and not the Vega 8 graphics

[Tetras]

I don't know if this your specific problem, but to be blunt: your CPU is not very good and your memory is too slow, since old Ryzens hate slow RAM.

[podkall]

3 minutes ago, garlixbread said:

While playing these games with my GTX 1070

which games?

 

1 minute ago, Tetras said:

I don't know if this your specific problem, but to be blunt: your CPU is not very good and your memory is too slow, since old Ryzens hate slow RAM.

it might not be that, slow RAM doesn't brick performance by mile

[garlixbread]

4 minutes ago, Tetras said:

I don't know if this your specific problem, but to be blunt: your CPU is not very good and your memory is too slow, since old Ryzens hate slow RAM.

I'm aware of that, however I would assume it would be enough to run a game like Fortnite at Medium without dropping into even 30s at certain areas. Even Roblox sometimes runs worse.

[podkall]

1 minute ago, garlixbread said:

I'm aware of that, however I would assume it would be enough to run a game like Fortnite at Medium without dropping into even 30s at certain areas. 

are you comparing benchmarks using same CPU? because some GPU benchmarks just use the fastest CPU possible

[Tetras]

3 minutes ago, podkall said:

it might not be that, slow RAM doesn't brick performance by mile

True, but it really hurts old Ryzen CPUs and since esports gamers love running @ 720p/Low I wouldn't be surprised if the slow memory is strangling the CPU, which is already quite slow in relative terms for single core/thread.

[podkall]

1 minute ago, Tetras said:

True, but it really hurts old Ryzen CPUs and since esports gamers love running @ 720p/Low I wouldn't be surprised if the slow memory is strangling the CPU, which is already quite slow in relative terms for single core/thread.

have you had one? I have and I doubt it does huge kick in the shin

 

2400g is 4/8 4Ghz boost

[garlixbread]

Yes, similiar CPU, ram speed, etc but better performance in the same areas

[garlixbread]

9 minutes ago, podkall said:

which games?

 

it might not be that, slow RAM doesn't brick performance by mile

Forgot to mention:
Fortnite, Outer Worlds, Ghostwire Tokyo.

[podkall]

39 minutes ago, garlixbread said:

Forgot to mention:
Fortnite, Outer Worlds, Ghostwire Tokyo.

same settings? resolution?

 

did you update your AMD chipset drivers in the last few years?

[garlixbread]

3 minutes ago, podkall said:

same settings? resolution?

 

did you update your AMD chipset drivers in the last few years?

Yes, same settings, even lower I get worse frames.
I haven't updated chipset drivers myself. Where can I find the driver for ryzen 5 2400g? I can only find the adrenalin software for it but I do not have an AMD gpu.

[podkall]

4 minutes ago, garlixbread said:

Yes, same settings, even lower I get worse frames.
I haven't updated chipset drivers myself. Where can I find the driver for ryzen 5 2400g? I can only find the adrenalin software for it but I do not have an AMD gpu.

yeah the adrenalin downloads CPU chipset too,

 

https://www.amd.com/en/support/apu/amd-ryzen-processors/amd-ryzen-5-desktop-processors-radeon-vega-graphics/amd-ryzen-5-0

[podkall]

1 hour ago, garlixbread said:

Samsung 2x8 DDR4 2666mhz 2X4 DDR4 2400mhz

what's this?

 

2 8GB sticks and 2 4GB sticks?

[garlixbread]

6 minutes ago, podkall said:

what's this?

 

2 8GB sticks and 2 4GB sticks?

Yes, added up to 24 gb

[podkall]

3 minutes ago, garlixbread said:

Yes, added up to 24 gb

can you try using just 2 8GB? and see if that helps your issue?

[garlixbread]

48 minutes ago, podkall said:

can you try using just 2 8GB? and see if that helps your issue?

Didn't do much good, still getting drops in the same areas. The driver couldn't be insalled due to error 182 either.

[podkall]

3 minutes ago, garlixbread said:

Didn't do much good, still getting drops in the same areas. The driver couldn't be insalled due to error 182 either.

other games work?

[garlixbread]

5 hours ago, podkall said:

other games work?

Some. Outlast Trials I do get 60-90 fps at ultra (Rarely drops to high 50s but not a problem), Mordhau I get around 60 fps at ultra.

[podkall]

12 minutes ago, garlixbread said:

Some. Outlast Trials I do get 60-90 fps at ultra (Rarely drops to high 50s but not a problem), Mordhau I get around 60 fps at ultra.

there may be something I'm not seeing, yo guys @Hinjima @PDifolco if you fell like helping here, any ideas?

[PDifolco]

8 hours ago, garlixbread said:

While playing  games like Fortnite, Outer Worlds, Ghostwire Tokyo with my GTX 1070, I get frame drops into low 40s-50s at every single setting while looking at areas with buildings for some reason, with 60% GPU and CPU utilization (CPU utilization sometimes goes to 100% but goes back down) while getting these low frames.. All online benchmarks show much higher fps with a setup similiar to mine. Specs below:
GTX 1070
Ryzen 5 2400g
MSI B350m Pro-Vdh
Samsung 2x8 DDR4 2666mhz 2X4 DDR4 2400mhz (Running at 2133 mhz as I cannot enable XMP)
Aerocool 600w 80+ bronze PSU
Twinmos SATA 512 GB SSD
Windows 10 Home
I'm also sure that my computer is utilizing the GTX 1070 and not the Vega 8 graphics

 

12 minutes ago, podkall said:

there may be something I'm not seeing, yo guys @Hinjima @PDifolco if you fell like helping here, any ideas?

 

Issues seems to be game related, with a  weak CPU and very slow RAM some code may hit bottlenecks faster than others

Not many alternatives to upgrading parts imo ...

[podkall]

19 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

 

 

Issues seems to be game related, with a  weak CPU and very slow RAM some code may hit bottlenecks faster than others

Not many alternatives to upgrading parts imo ...

yeah but apparently same spec PC achieves more fps?

[Tetras]

37 minutes ago, podkall said:

yeah but apparently same spec PC achieves more fps?

Assuming the PC is working properly (no issues with temps yadayada), then it might be explained by driver versions or game updates. Fortnite is kind of notorious for these updates and stuttering issues and there's a lot of variation in the settings used. Specific areas in these kind of games can also stutter / frame drop for no good reason, even on top-end hardware.

[garlixbread]

9 hours ago, Tetras said:

Assuming the PC is working properly (no issues with temps yadayada), then it might be explained by driver versions or game updates. Fortnite is kind of notorious for these updates and stuttering issues and there's a lot of variation in the settings used. Specific areas in these kind of games can also stutter / frame drop for no good reason, even on top-end hardware.

Games are tested on the same areas and same versions. Some of them are singleplayer as well. I'm also sure my drivers are updated to the latest version. The temps are good as well. CPU doesn't go above 60 at load and, same for the GPU.

[PDifolco]

17 hours ago, garlixbread said:

Yes, added up to 24 gb

Did you find really comparable systems to compare? I 'm not sure it even exists...

A mismatch of 4 sticks of slow ram on old Ryzen is certainly slowing you down

Remove the 4gb sticks and test 

[garlixbread]

3 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Did you find really comparable systems to compare? I 'm not sure it even exists...

A mismatch of 4 sticks of slow ram on old Ryzen is certainly slowing you down

Remove the 4gb sticks and test 

The video above shows a benchmark with a core I7 3770K and DDR3 1600 mhz ram (I'm aware ram speed matters more in ryzen CPUs, but not sure if it should make that big of a difference), same area inside the town I get 40 fps with same settings. Tried it with 2x8 xmp enabled at 2666, 6-7 fps difference.