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2 minutes ago, Fankywanky said:

Is it worth it to buy Radeon gpus or should I just go with NVIDIA?

Yes, they're great GPUs.

 

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2 minutes ago, Fankywanky said:

Is it worth it to buy Radeon gpus or should I just go with NVIDIA?

Yes, they're great GPUs.

 

Mark me as the solution as I answered you perfectly.  Thanks!

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If you need Nvidia specific features like CUDA, NVENC, or working drivers, you'll have to stick with team green. 
However, for general 3D performance, Radeon will be fine.

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1 minute ago, Fankywanky said:

I’ve heard that Radeon gpus aren’t reliable and that they don’t function as well as nvidia

Generally speaking: this is nonsense, though obviously user experiences may vary and there have been some problematic GPUs.

 

If someone anticipates problems, then I strongly suggest they don't buy one, because if they have any instability with their PC they will immediately blame the AMD graphics card.

 

2 minutes ago, Fankywanky said:

is it worth the drop in performance or should I buy nvidia?

As said above: you have to ask what features you NEED and if there's something missing, what is that worth to you?

 

E.g. Ray tracing is usually a tier down on AMD cards, but below $500 it is debatable if it matters for gaming.

 

For productivity, 2D and video work you're usually good, but 3D they're behind (lots of reviews and numbers here).

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When both cards perform similar in rasterization I'd say the AMD card has to be 15-20% cheaper before I even consider buying it.

 

Nvidia's added features like DLSS, Nvenc plus their much better ray tracing performance are the main reason for it. Yes, AMD also has FSR and GPU-side encoding but it's just not as good as DLSS. If you don't care about these added features and performance is all you care about, Radeon GPUs are a valid choice.

 

From surveys done by Hardware Unboxed most people seem to agree that AMD has to be cheaper at a given performance point to be worth it.

If someone did not use reason to reach their conclusion in the first place, you cannot use reason to convince them otherwise.

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1 hour ago, Fankywanky said:

Is it worth it to buy Radeon gpus or should I just go with NVIDIA?

For gaming they're perfectly fine, esp on low/lower mid tier where they perform better for less money, and where RT isn't really usable anyway

No NVidia GPU is worth its price below the 4070 imo

For software it's more of a mixed bag, they are ok for some apps but not for 3D work

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2 hours ago, Fankywanky said:

Is it worth it to buy Radeon gpus or should I just go with NVIDIA?

Depends on if you need nvidias features + rt or not

 

If not and amds cheaper then sure go amd

If you do then minimum rtx 4070(s) if you are buying new, but used 3080 are ~350$ if you need something abit cheaper

 

As for used cards rx 570/580 4/8gb is budget king for 30-50$ gpus (equiv to gtx 1060) with basically no competition, 5700(xt) and 6600(xt) are also good gpus at 120-150$, nvidia would be around the gtx 1070/1080(ti)/2060s/2070s for used gpus in the 100-150$ range, not much worth buying <100$

 

3060 12gb unsure of pricing but i think somewhere around 150$ - 200$ and 3070 ~200$ but both get beaten by the 6700xt at ~200$, 6800xt/3080 at ~350$ is about neck and neck, either vram or nvidia features

 

6900xt/6950xt for around 400-500$ id suspect it to be somewhere in the middle of a 3080ti (afaik ~400$) and 3090 in performance, and the 3090 is somewhere around 650-700$ but this is competing with a card like the 4070ti super, basically just extra vram but a ton of extra power consumption for abit less

 

 

For new cards

At 500$ 7800xt looks pretty mid since it only matches the 6800xt which is quite abit less used and only minor power savings (300w -> 250w), competition is the 4070 which is about the performance of a 3080 but much less power draw (~200w instead of ~320w on the 3080)

 

7900xt competes with the 4070tis and it does beat it in raw resterization performance at around 50-70$ less but obviously loses in rt

 

7900xtx competes with the 4080(s) and same situation as the 7900xt vs 4070tis, faster rasterization + extra vram but loses in rt

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