wan show Teams and Slack Alternatives

[bedhedd]

On Wan show last week there was a long discussion about chat solutions. Time-stamped 1:54:31

And here

 

Has @Slick or Dan looked into zulip?

https://zulip.com/for/business/

It is available as a subscription or self-hosted.

It's similar to slack and has tools to import chats from slack

https://zulip.com/help/getting-yourhttps://zulip.com/help/getting-your-organization-started-with-zulip

 

Has anyone used zulip? Would it be a replacement for slack/team for LMG?

 

I saw there was some discussions here, but no dedicated threads.

 

[whispous]

Hosting an IRC server

[whispous]

3 hours ago, whispous said:

Hosting an IRC server

I had to come back after stewing for a while - I say this about IRC like a joke, but the sheer audacity of Microsoft to have a text chat client that somehow performs worse than a fully featured, extended and plugin'd web browser is actually disgusting.

IRC, even 30 years ago was virtually instantaneous in switching between conversations, and really, especially for a productivity service, we have lost our way as consumers by accepting any less.

 

These garbage fires now are built on frameworks that are built on frameworks that are built on frameworks and it's unacceptable and lazy.

 

Lern2code you corporate "number go up" pricks!

[bedhedd]

50 minutes ago, whispous said:

I had to come back after stewing for a while - I say this about IRC like a joke, but the sheer audacity of Microsoft to have a text chat client that somehow performs worse than a fully featured, extended and plugin'd web browser is actually disgusting.

yeah it's slow, buggy, and has design decisions that make people just use chat rather than any of the other features

[Forbidden Wafer]

Zulip is beautiful. We use it in a big public open-source project. Mostly for maintainers to sync with each other, resolve issues, ask questions, keep discussions more organized than in issues/MRs on Gitlab (which the search is complete garbage). Some random users pop up from time to time to interact.

A limitation that can be a deal braker for some: no video/audio calls. Only text. This is why I still believe, for audio/video, Discord is king.

[bedhedd]

30 minutes ago, Forbidden Wafer said:

A limitation that can be a deal braker for some: no video/audio calls. Only text. This is why I still believe, for audio/video, Discord is king.

Is jitsi no good?
https://zulip.com/integrations/doc/jitsi

Also how is the integration with google meet? I know Luke mentioned during wan show that even though google meet had the best call experience, they switched everyone to teams for video calls because it was easier to sync calendars and meeting invites
https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/11440

[Forbidden Wafer]

5 minutes ago, bedhedd said:

Also how is the integration with google meet? I know Luke mentioned during wan show that even though google meet had the best call experience, they switched everyone to teams for video calls because it was easier to sync calendars and meeting invites
https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/11440

We have it, but I dislike it. Avoid it like the plague.

6 minutes ago, bedhedd said:

Is jitsi no good?
https://zulip.com/integrations/doc/jitsi

Haven't heard of it before. The project officially uses zoom for calls, so I guess we won't be replacing it for anything.