is this normal health for a iphone 14 pro max a year after

[Clearviper]

i've had my phone for a year and i charge and use it queit offten. and i always check my battery health and some how it hasnt even moved the whole year i've had it

and im wondering if theres a glitch or something cause i've never had an iphone battery's health not move for an entire year. 

my old iphone 11 after 3months dropped to 98% 

[leclod]

You do update ?

[NinJake]

My iphone 12 is showing 88% capacity. Charge it daily. I haven't checked this statistic ever, until I saw this post lol.

[Clearviper]

4 minutes ago, leclod said:

You do update ?

yea i've updated it 

[PDifolco]

Battery of my Nothing 1 is 98% after 14 months but I don't use it intensively 

[leclod]

Don't worry, be happy

[Dedayog]

39 minutes ago, Clearviper said:

i've had my phone for a year and i charge and use it queit offten. and i always check my battery health and some how it hasnt even moved the whole year i've had it

and im wondering if theres a glitch or something cause i've never had an iphone battery's health not move for an entire year. 

my old iphone 11 after 3months dropped to 98% 

Why would you check battery health that is basically an algorithm and not an actual verifiable diagnosis?

 

Also, why are you even checking battery anything.  Use the phone.  Don't go looking for issues.

[leclod]

55 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Why would you check battery health that is basically an algorithm and not an actual verifiable diagnosis?

I believe it's an algorithm based on facts like, for example, voltage level after full charge and Watts consumed from full to empty. I believe a diagnose can be done if they want to.

But I don't know for sure. I did a quick search, nobody seems to know.

I found this, also, which might answer the first question :

"Apple builds its batteries with excess capacity"

Edited January 30 by leclod

[NinJake]

5 minutes ago, leclod said:

I found this, also, which might explain the first question :

"Apple builds its batteries with excess capacity"

Can you cite this source?

 

There's no such thing as "building something with excess", unless they let's say implement a 10mwh battery while only advertising 9mwh (fictitious numbers as example).

[leclod]

7 minutes ago, NinJake said:

Can you cite this source?

There's no such thing as "building something with excess", unless they let's say implement a 10mwh battery while only advertising 9mwh (fictitious numbers as example).

Found this : iPhone batteries often ship at a higher actual capacity than the specification. My new phone arrived with a capacity of 102%. iOS Battery Health only starts at 100%, so if your battery when new was actually 103% capacity, it’ll have to age 4% (decrease capacity 4%) until the iOS Battery Health app will show a change (to 99%). Here : https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/why-i-dont-trust-battery-health.2314828/

 

And this : The reason is a type of fail-safe: Apple builds its batteries with excess capacity, meaning that it doesn’t actually use all of its potential operating power when its Battery Health states 100%. Even when it is at 80%, your phone is still operating in optimal conditions.

Here : https://swappie.com/en/blog/everything-you-need-to-know-about-iphone-batteries/

 

I know those sources aren't great, but they might be based on better ones.

 

And I agree with your comment,

Edited January 30 by leclod

[cooky560]

My iPhone 13 mini is about a year old and is at 98% health, I charge it daily and it rarely goes below 70% between charges.

 

I am an extremely light user of phones, so your mileage may differ.

[Rocketdog2112]

On 1/30/2024 at 12:00 PM, Dedayog said:

 Don't go looking for issues.

So... preventive maintenance ain't your thing?

[NinJake]

32 minutes ago, Rocketdog2112 said:

So... preventive maintenance ain't your thing?

Can you consider battery health a preventive measure in iPhones? That's a stretch if you ask me. If we still had easily accessible batteries to switch out I could maybe understand it, but you're better off not focusing so much on "monitoring" your phone's battery life or clock speed and worrying that something is wrong just because it's running at 2ghz instead of 2.05ghz, or battery life is showing at 85% rather than 100%.

 

As I said at the beginning, my phone is going on 3 years old and I have no issues with battery life even though it states I'm down 10+%.

 

I'm more likely to upgrade to a different phone by the time the battery becomes unusable.

[BoomerDutch]

1 hour ago, NinJake said:

I'm more likely to upgrade to a different phone by the time the battery becomes unusable.

Well yes, poor people doesn't exist huh?

Or people really care about their property and proper care doesn't exist either?

 

Either way proper care gives phones longer Life and becomes possible to give or sell second hand phone to younger generation.

 

Heck I'm even using Battery protect to charge max 85% and avoid going under 20%. Since then i gotten used to it.

 

We don't need excessive new devices for this reason.

 

And we can't keep spending same devices since we want all other things too.

[Dedayog]

6 minutes ago, BoomerDutch said:

Well yes, poor people doesn't exist huh?

Or people really care about their property and proper care doesn't exist either?

 

Either way proper care gives phones longer Life and becomes possible to give or sell second hand phone to younger generation.

 

Heck I'm even using Battery protect to charge max 85% and avoid going under 20%. Since then i gotten used to it.

 

We don't need excessive new devices for this reason.

Battery Protect is proven to extend the life of the phone?

 

So my OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren (love that name) being 5 years old that I never once checked battery health, modified charging, left it on charger overnight for YEARS...  is worthless now?

 

Cuz I didn't do "preventative maintenance" on it?

 

Talk less out of your ass and more about actual factual (yeah, rhymes are awesome) real world aspects.

 

Hell, my OnePlus 3 is STILL working.

 

Oh and my son's iPhone 3 I found when I divorced his mother... still fucking working.

 

So stop being a fear mongering sheep and LOOK at what's happening to prove a point.

 

Or if your shit is dying a lot, maybe it's a you issue?  Mine isn't.

 

Though if you want to get into saving the planet stuff, make an Off Topic thread and we'll go at it there.  Would love a good argument, it's a Thursday after all.

[BoomerDutch]

3 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Battery Protect is proven to extend the life of the phone?

 

So my OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren (love that name) being 5 years old that I never once checked battery health, modified charging, left it on charger overnight for YEARS...  is worthless now?

 

Cuz I didn't do "preventative maintenance" on it?

 

Talk less out of your ass and more about actual factual (yeah, rhymes are awesome) real world aspects.

 

Hell, my OnePlus 3 is STILL working.

 

Oh and my son's iPhone 3 I found when I divorced his mother... still fucking working.

 

So stop being a fear mongering sheep and LOOK at what's happening to prove a point.

 

Or if your shit is dying a lot, maybe it's a you issue?  Mine isn't.

 

Though if you want to get into saving the planet stuff, make an Off Topic thread and we'll go at it there.  Would love a good argument, it's a Thursday after all.

Yes you phone still work but not as long as it was before, my older Samsung phone batteries drain faster than I've experienced, my sony Z5 great phone I've proper took care for it until slipped and broke touch screen, so ive bought my mates phone that is also sony z5 but man that phone drain faster than i expected.

 

How I've noticed by charging phone before i went to bed at same time every night before go to work.

 

FYI i do not claim that they are facts,

these are simply my experience.

[dkoudijs]

4 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Battery Protect is proven to extend the life of the phone?

 

So my OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren (love that name) being 5 years old that I never once checked battery health, modified charging, left it on charger overnight for YEARS...  is worthless now?

 

Cuz I didn't do "preventative maintenance" on it?

 

Talk less out of your ass and more about actual factual (yeah, rhymes are awesome) real world aspects.

 

Hell, my OnePlus 3 is STILL working.

 

Oh and my son's iPhone 3 I found when I divorced his mother... still fucking working.

 

So stop being a fear mongering sheep and LOOK at what's happening to prove a point.

 

Or if your shit is dying a lot, maybe it's a you issue?  Mine isn't.

 

Though if you want to get into saving the planet stuff, make an Off Topic thread and we'll go at it there.  Would love a good argument, it's a Thursday after all.

I look after about 75 phones through work. At first setup I turn on the battery management (ios) and over all the batteries after 30 months is above 80% in all of them. I also give out only the slower bricks (10 watts). The slower bricks help with not over heating the phones.

 

Now I know my experience is on iphones only, and I don't have a huge sample set but I like to think the combination of slower charging and battery management so it only charges to 100% just before most people wake up had a hand in keeping the batteries in decent order.

 

I can't tell you off hand how many have lasted better than 90%, as I have been doing this with iphones for about 8 years and we didn't have great resources to check the battery's in the past. So hopefully this helps you see some people have data involving a few hundred phones.

[Godlygamer23]

8 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Battery Protect is proven to extend the life of the phone?

 

So my OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren (love that name) being 5 years old that I never once checked battery health, modified charging, left it on charger overnight for YEARS...  is worthless now?

 

Cuz I didn't do "preventative maintenance" on it?

 

Talk less out of your ass and more about actual factual (yeah, rhymes are awesome) real world aspects.

 

Hell, my OnePlus 3 is STILL working.

 

Oh and my son's iPhone 3 I found when I divorced his mother... still fucking working.

 

So stop being a fear mongering sheep and LOOK at what's happening to prove a point.

 

Or if your shit is dying a lot, maybe it's a you issue?  Mine isn't.

 

Though if you want to get into saving the planet stuff, make an Off Topic thread and we'll go at it there.  Would love a good argument, it's a Thursday after all.

Nothing you said disproves the individual's statements. You have three samples. And your claims are based on the device working, not an actual objective test on battery life, compared to when it was new.

 

If you say "well it lasts the same amount as when it was brand new", that's not objective evidence. That is simply a claim.

 

Properly managing batteries do allow them to last longer - that is a fact based on objective data revolving around lithium ion batteries being used in various capacities, including electric cars.

[Donut417]

On 1/30/2024 at 12:19 PM, Clearviper said:

i've had my phone for a year and i charge and use it queit offten. and i always check my battery health and some how it hasnt even moved the whole year i've had it

and im wondering if theres a glitch or something cause i've never had an iphone battery's health not move for an entire year. 

my old iphone 11 after 3months dropped to 98% 

Id assume that maybe battery tech got better, they are using maybe a higher capacity battery. I wouldn't worry about it. My XR still have 84% and its about 5 years old. I was told that below 80% is where you start having issues. While I notice my battery might not last as long when using the device for extended periods, it still works. That all being said, I use just a standard 5v 1AMP charger, when I buy my new iPhone Ill be doing the same, I dont need fast charging.

[Rocketdog2112]

11 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Battery Protect is proven to extend the life of the phone?

 

So my OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren (love that name) being 5 years old that I never once checked battery health, modified charging, left it on charger overnight for YEARS...  is worthless now?

 

Cuz I didn't do "preventative maintenance" on it?

 

Talk less out of your ass and more about actual factual (yeah, rhymes are awesome) real world aspects.

 

Hell, my OnePlus 3 is STILL working.

 

Oh and my son's iPhone 3 I found when I divorced his mother... still fucking working.

 

So stop being a fear mongering sheep and LOOK at what's happening to prove a point.

 

Or if your shit is dying a lot, maybe it's a you issue?  Mine isn't.

 

Though if you want to get into saving the planet stuff, make an Off Topic thread and we'll go at it there.  Would love a good argument, it's a Thursday after all.

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