Just can't solve this stuttering

[O_Bsnacks]

I have just been stuttering in all games I played, the things I have tried are as follows; uninstalled drivers first by uninstalling them using windows then using ddu afterwards, did the same thing for the chipset drivers. I also did a clean install of win more times than I can remember, I tried overclocking gpu, undervolting, and just keeping it at default, I also tried enabling and disabling freesync in the adrenaline software. I tried disabling SAM, XMP, fTPM (this actually helps alot), I also tried undervolting the cpu and overclocking it. I reset my bios and redownloaded the new version multiple times and I aslo disabled MPO. None of this works, absolutely nothing. I replaced all my parts mulitple times tried different parts and came to the conclusion that it is either my ram (beacuse it is quite old), my ssd (because it is just some cheap 1tb wd blue and also a 250gb wd black m.2), or my motherboard. 

 

My pc specs: 

Ryzen 9 5900x 

Rx 6900 xt 

ripjaws 3600mhz cl16 2x8gb ddr4 

asus b550 f gaming motherboard

asus thor 850w platinum psu 

250gb wd black m.2 (for windows 11 pro)

1tb wd blue ssd

corsair h150i 240mm 

3x corsair case fans 

 

[YoungBlade]

What games are you playing? Some games these days do actually use more than 16GB of RAM, and that could cause stuttering when things are pushed to the pagefile. And the games that do this might surprise you - Fortnite actually benefits in 1% lows from 32GB of RAM, for example.

 

You RAM's age isn't an issue - DDR4-3600 CL16 is still good for DDR4 - but the capacity might be.

[O_Bsnacks]

11 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

What games are you playing? Some games these days do actually use more than 16GB of RAM, and that could cause stuttering when things are pushed to the pagefile. And the games that do this might surprise you - Fortnite actually benefits in 1% lows from 32GB of RAM, for example.

 

You RAM's age isn't an issue - DDR4-3600 CL16 is still good for DDR4 - but the capacity might be.

Fortnite actually runs the smoothest I do get occasional stutters though. Star Wars battlefront II as well as BF1 or 2042. 

[YoungBlade]

1 minute ago, O_Bsnacks said:

Fortnite actually runs the smoothest I do get occasional stutters though. Star Wars battlefront II as well as BF1 or 2042. 

Are you just playing the games, or do you have other programs open on a second monitor that could be using up your RAM?

[191x7]

34 minutes ago, O_Bsnacks said:

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Ryzen 9 5900x 

Rx 6900 xt 

ripjaws 3600mhz cl16 2x8gb ddr4 

...

 

You did not mention your monitor resolution.

 

The 5900X was a bottleneck for my 6950XT on 1440p. The stutters (huge frame drops) were annoyingly noticeable in my game(s).

I switched to the 5800X3D and it has been battery-smooth ever since. The average framerate isn't that different, but the 1% and 0.1% lows are so much higher that they aren't even noticeable. 

 

Also, you're on only 16GB of RAM. Add more RAM even if you're not upgrading the CPU.

 

Are you on the latest Bios?

[Agall]

41 minutes ago, O_Bsnacks said:

I have just been stuttering in all games I played, the things I have tried are as follows; uninstalled drivers first by uninstalling them using windows then using ddu afterwards, did the same thing for the chipset drivers. I also did a clean install of win more times than I can remember, I tried overclocking gpu, undervolting, and just keeping it at default, I also tried enabling and disabling freesync in the adrenaline software. I tried disabling SAM, XMP, fTPM (this actually helps alot), I also tried undervolting the cpu and overclocking it. I reset my bios and redownloaded the new version multiple times and I aslo disabled MPO. None of this works, absolutely nothing. I replaced all my parts mulitple times tried different parts and came to the conclusion that it is either my ram (beacuse it is quite old), my ssd (because it is just some cheap 1tb wd blue and also a 250gb wd black m.2), or my motherboard. 

 

My pc specs: 

Ryzen 9 5900x 

Rx 6900 xt 

ripjaws 3600mhz cl16 2x8gb ddr4 

asus b550 f gaming motherboard

asus thor 850w platinum psu 

250gb wd black m.2 (for windows 11 pro)

1tb wd blue ssd

corsair h150i 240mm 

3x corsair case fans 

 

I wouldn't doubt if your 250GB WD black is the problem and/or your Windows installation. I'd recommend biting the bullet and reinstalling on a new drive (and upgrading your RAM to a 2x16GB 3600MT/sec kit because they're really inexpensive now).

[O_Bsnacks]

17 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

You did not mention your monitor resolution.

 

The 5900X was a bottleneck for my 6950XT on 1440p. The stutters (huge frame drops) were annoyingly noticeable in my game(s).

I switched to the 5800X3D and it has been battery-smooth ever since. The average framerate isn't that different, but the 1% and 0.1% lows are so much higher that they aren't even noticeable. 

 

Also, you're on only 16GB of RAM. Add more RAM even if you're not upgrading the CPU.

 

Are you on the latest Bios?

The thing is that I play at 1080p, and only have a 144hz monitor but I am getting a 240hz one soon. and when I used reason I got the 5900x was because it had more cores/threads which I though was good in terms of having little to no bottleneck.

 

[O_Bsnacks]

9 minutes ago, Agall said:

I wouldn't doubt if your 250GB WD black is the problem and/or your Windows installation. I'd recommend biting the bullet and reinstalling on a new drive (and upgrading your RAM to a 2x16GB 3600MT/sec kit because they're really inexpensive now).

I am getting 32gb soon at 3600mhz hoping that was the issue

[Agall]

3 minutes ago, O_Bsnacks said:

I am getting 32gb soon at 3600mhz hoping that was the issue

Its unlikely the issue, I'd say its more likely that 250GB WD black drive's quality/performance. I'm assuming that's a drive you've had for a while and transplanted from another system?

[Agall]

26 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

I switched to the 5800X3D and it has been battery-smooth ever since. The average framerate isn't that different, but the 1% and 0.1% lows are so much higher that they aren't even noticeable. 

I regularly experience this when testing CCD0 vs CCD1. To me its the most significant advantage of 3D v-cache, but also can be night and day for games with a heavy amount of CPU draw calls that negotiate with a server. Even while running a pseudo R7 7700 with CCD1 only, I'll get hitches when loading huge player/enemy assets that I don't get while running a pseudo 7800x3D. Noting that CCD1 can and will boost 650MHz higher than CCD0. CCD1 is still able to boost past its listed 5.75GHz, highest I've seen is 5.9GHz.

[191x7]

36 minutes ago, O_Bsnacks said:

The thing is that I play at 1080p, and only have a 144hz monitor but I am getting a 240hz one soon. and when I used reason I got the 5900x was because it had more cores/threads which I though was good in terms of having little to no bottleneck.

 

I am certain that a 5800X3D wouldn't be enough for a 6900XT on 1080p, you should really have a 7800X3D for that, or at least an i7 13700K/14700K.

The 5900X is two 5600X "glued together" with a huge latency between "them". For games, it's worse than a 5700X or 5800X (which have all 8 cores in the same CCD).

The 240 Hz you mention, is it going to be a 1440p screen? A 5900X could do for 1440p with the 6900XT but certainly not for high refresh (or shall I say smooth).

[O_Bsnacks]

Here is a video of me playing fortnite, I change from 144hz with vsync on to 240 fps without vsync and when I turn it off it seems to run smoother. I try to get videos of other games.

[O_Bsnacks]

1 hour ago, 191x7 said:

I am certain that a 5800X3D wouldn't be enough for a 6900XT on 1080p, you should really have a 7800X3D for that, or at least an i7 13700K/14700K.

The 5900X is two 5600X "glued together" with a huge latency between "them". For games, it's worse than a 5700X or 5800X (which have all 8 cores in the same CCD).

The 240 Hz you mention, is it going to be a 1440p screen? A 5900X could do for 1440p with the 6900XT but certainly not for high refresh (or shall I say smooth).

 

34 minutes ago, O_Bsnacks said:

Here is a video of me playing fortnite, I change from 144hz with vsync on to 240 fps without vsync and when I turn it off it seems to run smoother. I try to get videos of other games.

 

[191x7]

37 minutes ago, O_Bsnacks said:

Here is a video of me playing fortnite, I change from 144hz with vsync on to 240 fps without vsync and when I turn it off it seems to run smoother. I try to get videos of other games.

Why would you use v-sync? If you want to limit the framerate use the in-built limiter or RTSS (Riva Tuner Statistics Server). V-Sync is terrible, even with triple buffering enabled. It adds a ton of latency and it introduces stutters.

[DoubtingCastle]

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[O_Bsnacks]

On 11/29/2023 at 12:36 PM, 191x7 said:

Why would you use v-sync? If you want to limit the framerate use the in-built limiter or RTSS (Riva Tuner Statistics Server). V-Sync is terrible, even with triple buffering enabled. It adds a ton of latency and it introduces stutters.

So, should my next approach be to try a new ssd? Do see if that is causing the stuttering? I just don’t see how the 5800x3d can fix these problems other people with 5900x have no problems.