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3 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

well hard to say... something like this could be also hard-drive,  vram, network activity, etc...

 

that's why i said it should show everything if possible,  thing is we aren't there and can check this stuff... something is causing that drop and it should be visible in monitoring software...

 

but, i agree, it doesn't necessarily look like cpu, i mean its like ~80%...

 

Time to learn how to monitor your computer,  i would say 😉

 

everything that's close to 100% can be a potential issue,  and typically that's visible when something happens. 

 

 

 

ps: use hwinfo64

 

6 hours ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

Not much difference between 5700x and 5800x in this bench. They should be pretty similar cpus, as the only difference I can tell between them on the spec sheets is 5700X targets 65W while 5800X targets 105W and 5800X has a 400MHz bump in base clock and 100MHz bump in turbo clock vs the 5700X.

 

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Moved the game from my 2TB HDD to a 500GB M.2 SSD and its been working completely fine for about 10-15 minutes!

Hi,

 

I recently downloaded Starfield using PC gamepass and its been fun. However, my screen is constantly freezing, my audio is cutting out, and it overall is ruining the experience of the game. My in game settings are all set to the LOW preset, and I am normally getting ~145 FPS, until it freezing every other minute. My GPU is less than 70% load and ~50C, my CPU is ~70% usage and ~50C. I have 16GB of RAM and less than 11GB is being used. All of this info is gathered from MSI afterburner. Specs are as follows:

 

R5 3600

3060ti FE

Asus gaming B550-a

16GB DDR4 3200Mhz Crucial Balstix

850W PSU

Corsair 240mm AIO

 

I really would love to play this game without the annoying stopping and audio cutting out. Any ideas?

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21 hours ago, MarvintheParrot said:

My GPU is less than 70% load and ~50C, my CPU is ~70% usage and ~50C. I have 16GB of RAM and less than 11GB is being used.

thats all super good info to convince yourself its not a cpu bottleneck  ...  but it is...

 

 

70% gpu and 70% cpu speaks for itself... you're most probably maxed out on one or more cores... hence only 70% gpu.

 

 

 

if you don't believe me, post video of *all* cpu cores, gpu ,ram, vram etc with afterburner overlay, while this is happening, please. 

 

 

Solution:  buy a new cpu. 5800x3D ideally. 

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12 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

thats all super good info to convince yourself its not a cpu bottleneck  ...  but it is...

 

 

70% gpu and 70% cpu speaks for itself... you're most probably maxed out on one or more cores... hence only 70% gpu.

 

 

 

if you don't believe me, post video of *all* cpu cores, gpu ,ram, vram etc with afterburner overlay, while this is happening, please. 

 

 

Solution:  buy a new cpu. 5800x3D ideally. 

Thanks for the info, I set the preset to default and it gave me 97%-99% GPU usage. 

 

I put up all CPU cores, GPU, RAM, VRAM, and more with afterburner, and I was getting around 50-70% CPU usage per core when running around, and when I got into combat or entered a new area I'm hitting 80%-95%. Additionally, when the screen freezes, the CPU usage across the cores drops to 2%-15%. Notably, when the audio cuts out (arguably more annoying than the freezing itself), the CPU usage is unchanged.

 

As for a new CPU, I'd rather not buy a $300 CPU at the moment... the 5800x has some great deals ~180 (at microcenter...only one in stock, likely will not be able to get my hands on that), would that be a good investment?

 

EDIT:

Newegg has a 5700x for 180, is that worth it?

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6 minutes ago, MarvintheParrot said:

As for a new CPU, I'd rather not buy a $300 CPU at the moment... the 5800x has some great deals ~180 (at microcenter...only one in stock, likely will not be able to get my hands on that), would that be a good investment?

yeah, the 5800x is still be a huge improvement over the 3600.

(around 20% faster)

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2 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

yeah, the 5800x is still be a huge improvement over the 3600.

(around 20% faster)

Unable to get to microcenter within the next few days, and the deal will be done by then. 

 

Should I go for the 5700x on Newegg for 160?

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1 hour ago, MarvintheParrot said:

Unable to get to microcenter within the next few days, and the deal will be done by then. 

 

Should I go for the 5700x on Newegg for 160?

still a small improvement for sure. 

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3 hours ago, MarvintheParrot said:

Unable to get to microcenter within the next few days, and the deal will be done by then. 

 

Should I go for the 5700x on Newegg for 160?

Not much difference between 5700x and 5800x in this bench. They should be pretty similar cpus, as the only difference I can tell between them on the spec sheets is 5700X targets 65W while 5800X targets 105W and 5800X has a 400MHz bump in base clock and 100MHz bump in turbo clock vs the 5700X.

 

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1 hour ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

Not much difference between 5700x and 5800x in this bench. They should be pretty similar cpus, as the only difference I can tell between them on the spec sheets is 5700X targets 65W while 5800X targets 105W and 5800X has a 400MHz bump in base clock and 100MHz bump in turbo clock vs the 5700X.

 

relative-performance-games-1280-720.png

 

1 hour ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

Here's some cpu benchmarks for Starfield

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

still a small improvement for sure. 

 

 

Finally was able to get a video of afterburner:

 

You can see that it freezes around 8-9 seconds in and resumes a few seconds later, with a massive drop in CPU usage throughout the entire CPU.

 

Please let me know if you still think this a CPU issue, as I am not looking to shell out more than $150 on a solution that wont fix my issue.

 

Thanks!

 

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47 minutes ago, MarvintheParrot said:

 

 

 

 

Finally was able to get a video of afterburner:

 

You can see that it freezes around 8-9 seconds in and resumes a few seconds later, with a massive drop in CPU usage throughout the entire CPU.

 

Please let me know if you still think this a CPU issue, as I am not looking to shell out more than $150 on a solution that wont fix my issue.

 

Thanks!

 

well hard to say... something like this could be also hard-drive,  vram, network activity, etc...

 

that's why i said it should show everything if possible,  thing is we aren't there and can check this stuff... something is causing that drop and it should be visible in monitoring software...

 

but, i agree, it doesn't necessarily look like cpu, i mean its like ~80%...

 

Time to learn how to monitor your computer,  i would say 😉

 

everything that's close to 100% can be a potential issue,  and typically that's visible when something happens. 

 

 

 

ps: use hwinfo64

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3 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

well hard to say... something like this could be also hard-drive,  vram, network activity, etc...

 

that's why i said it should show everything if possible,  thing is we aren't there and can check this stuff... something is causing that drop and it should be visible in monitoring software...

 

but, i agree, it doesn't necessarily look like cpu, i mean its like ~80%...

 

Time to learn how to monitor your computer,  i would say 😉

 

everything that's close to 100% can be a potential issue,  and typically that's visible when something happens. 

 

 

 

ps: use hwinfo64

 

6 hours ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

Not much difference between 5700x and 5800x in this bench. They should be pretty similar cpus, as the only difference I can tell between them on the spec sheets is 5700X targets 65W while 5800X targets 105W and 5800X has a 400MHz bump in base clock and 100MHz bump in turbo clock vs the 5700X.

 

relative-performance-games-1280-720.png

 

 

Moved the game from my 2TB HDD to a 500GB M.2 SSD and its been working completely fine for about 10-15 minutes!

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Is it just me or did you completely forget to inform us you were running it off HDD?

Also "don't want to spend more than 150$ on something that won't fix my problem" -

I think the dollar amount you were looking for here is "0".  150$ is one heck of an

expensive non-fix.

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4 hours ago, Renegade042 said:

Is it just me or did you completely forget to inform us you were running it off HDD?

Also "don't want to spend more than 150$ on something that won't fix my problem" -

I think the dollar amount you were looking for here is "0".  150$ is one heck of an

expensive non-fix.

Yes, I did forget.

 

The $150 was referring to a new CPU, which I wasn't 100% sure would solve my issue, so I didn't want to pull the trigger on something that didn't matter.

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19 hours ago, MarvintheParrot said:

Yes, I did forget.

 

The $150 was referring to a new CPU, which I wasn't 100% sure would solve my issue, so I didn't want to pull the trigger on something that didn't matter.

So moving to SSD fixed it for good?

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