Vega 64 or 5700xt

[Otac]

Im curious to know which used gpu I should buy, the vega 64 is 85e while the 5700xt is 140-150e.

I can also find a vega 56 for 75e and bios flash it, but is the performance jump between 64 and 5700xt that big that i should save an additional 70e?

[Spotty]

What games are you playing, what resolution?

 

Many reviews for the 5700XT would have included comparisons to either the Vega 56 or Vega 64 (if not both) when the card was first released, I would recommend checking out some of those reviews to see how they compare. Depending on the game and resolution I think the 5700XT would be roughly somewhere between 10-30% faster.

[will0hlep]

9 minutes ago, Otac said:

Im curious to know which used gpu I should buy, the vega 64 is 85e while the 5700xt is 140-150e.

I can also find a vega 56 for 75e and bios flash it, but is the performance jump between 64 and 5700xt that big that i should save an additional 70e?

I'd get something like a used 1080Ti for under 100e or I'd save up a bit longer and get a used RX 6700XT which can be had for 220 to 250e and will last for years thanks to their 12GB of Vram.

[Otac]

10 hours ago, will0hlep said:

I'd get something like a used 1080Ti for under 100e or I'd save up a bit longer and get a used RX 6700XT which can be had for 220 to 250e and will last for years thanks to their 12GB of Vram.

1080ti - 180e

6700xt-350e used both in my country

 

[will0hlep]

21 minutes ago, Otac said:

1080ti - 180e

6700xt-350e used both in my country

yikes, that is a bad used market.

 

Even at that price, I think a 1080Ti is still worth it over a 5700xt.

 

As for the 6700xt, that price is so bad it's almost as expensive as it should be brand new.

[toasty99]

5 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

yikes, that is a bad used market.

 

Even at that price, I think a 1080Ti is still worth it over a 5700xt.

 

As for the 6700xt, that price is so bad it's almost as expensive as it should be brand new.

The 5700xt is actually about the same as a 1080ti these days. This is due to AMD finewine technology or optimizing their crap launch drivers, however you view that.

 

OP, what about importing from AliExpress? AliExpress has good prices on the Rx 5700 and Rx 5700xt quite often. If the importing isn't too crazy, I'd just do that.

 

[xFluing]

15 hours ago, toasty99 said:

 

OP, what about importing from AliExpress? AliExpress has good prices on the Rx 5700 and Rx 5700xt quite often. If the importing isn't too crazy, I'd just do that.

 

Nobody in their right mind should buy from aliexpress, especially video cards.

[Otac]

20 hours ago, toasty99 said:

The 5700xt is actually about the same as a 1080ti these days. This is due to AMD finewine technology or optimizing their crap launch drivers, however you view that.

 

OP, what about importing from AliExpress? AliExpress has good prices on the Rx 5700 and Rx 5700xt quite often. If the importing isn't too crazy, I'd just do that.

 

Well its atleast a month and a half wait + its around 190e instead of a used one here around 150 160. 

[toasty99]

21 hours ago, xFluing said:

Nobody in their right mind should buy from aliexpress, especially video cards.

Actually, they should. You just have to know what you're buying. It's likely a mining card that the die was removed from and placed on a new PCB or a mining GPU that was cleaned up and shipped to you. 

 

It's not a new card, but if you go into it like buying a used card it's fine. In fact, I get less dead GPUs from AliExpress than eBay or Facebook marketplace. AliExpress sellers actually put new thermal paste on, clean out dust, and test their crap. With ebay or Facebook marketplace, most cards aren't cleaned at all, dusty, have dried out thermal paste, and if it says "never mined on" that means it was mined on hard.

 

Go ahead and buy 100 GPUs from Aliexpress, 100 from eBay, and 100 locally. I absolutely guarantee your failure rate is the lowest on Aliexpress.

 

 

[Mark Kaine]

On 11/19/2023 at 9:34 PM, will0hlep said:

yikes, that is a bad used market.

most of Europe is.... scalpers paradise.  people have money and no clue, and thus pay anything ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

[Otac]

6 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

most of Europe is.... scalpers paradise.  people have money and no clue, and thus pay anything ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

Here people dont have money, they just get fucked by the market

[xFluing]

On 11/21/2023 at 12:10 PM, toasty99 said:

Actually, they should. You just have to know what you're buying. It's likely a mining card that the die was removed from and placed on a new PCB or a mining GPU that was cleaned up and shipped to you. 

 

It's not a new card, but if you go into it like buying a used card it's fine. In fact, I get less dead GPUs from AliExpress than eBay or Facebook marketplace. AliExpress sellers actually put new thermal paste on, clean out dust, and test their crap. With ebay or Facebook marketplace, most cards aren't cleaned at all, dusty, have dried out thermal paste, and if it says "never mined on" that means it was mined on hard.

 

Go ahead and buy 100 GPUs from Aliexpress, 100 from eBay, and 100 locally. I absolutely guarantee your failure rate is the lowest on Aliexpress.

 

 

"actually they should encourage chinese child labor"

 

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