Cleaned up server rack, planning on adding a powervault but what UPS should i get?

[IBM_THINKPAD_R51]

So I am going to add a powervault MD3200 to my R910 via a H800 Raid card.
I also want to add a Poweredge R710 too.

But i needed to cable manage my rack before i did any of those.
the question is i already needed more runtime than my smart ups 1500 (3 of 4 PSUs from R910) and the Back-ups pro 1000 (1 of 4 PSU's and all networking gear)

but the powervault and r710 needs to be backed up too. should i go with multiple more (rack mount versions) smart ups 1500's or go wiht a single 3000va
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[Needfuldoer]

19 minutes ago, IBM_THINKPAD_R51 said:

the question is i already needed more runtime than my smart ups 1500 (3 of 4 PSUs from R910) and the Back-ups pro 1000 (1 of 4 PSU's and all networking gear)

but the powervault and r710 needs to be backed up too. should i go with multiple more (rack mount versions) smart ups 1500's or go wiht a single 3000va

What kind of power do you have for your rack and what's your budget?

 

I'd recommend upgrading to a less power-hungry platform instead of adding more power capacity to run even more ancient servers. That R910 must draw about 500 watts at idle, and one R730 can be built up to be faster than it and an additional R710 put together. Depending on what you pay for electricity, it could pay for itself in power savings relatively quickly. Get a 16-bay or R730XD and you can just move your drives over in the trays you've already got.

[IBM_THINKPAD_R51]

5 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

What kind of power do you have for your rack and what's your budget?

 

I'd recommend upgrading to a less power-hungry platform instead of adding more power capacity to run even more ancient servers. That R910 must draw about 500 watts at idle, and one R730 can be built up to be faster than it and an additional R710 put together. Depending on what you pay for electricity, it could pay for itself in power savings relatively quickly.

What exactly do you mean by what kind of power? Rn it's like 4 20 amp circuits. Also Tru I do need to move away from the r910 but I have a plan for that next year, even then I still do need more runtime. Budget isn't too big of an issue rn although I do want to avoid running a refrigerator ups. Also yeah the r910 runs 550 idle and 800-900 full load. 

[Needfuldoer]

1 minute ago, IBM_THINKPAD_R51 said:

What exactly do you mean by what kind of power? Rn it's like 4 20 amp circuits.

That's what I mean by what kind of power. (Also, nice.)

 

You'd need to add a 30 amp 120v circuit for a 3000va UPS. (20A 240v would work too, but 240v UPSes are stupid expensive.) A 2200 would fit on a 20A 120v circuit though.

 

1 minute ago, IBM_THINKPAD_R51 said:

Also yeah the r910 runs 550 idle and 800-900 full load. 

Replace that thing with an R730, either a 16 bay or an R730XD, with dual E5-2697 V4 CPUs. It will be substantially faster than the R910 and should draw less than half the power.

 

For a point of comparison, my home server is an R730XD with twelve 12TB SATA hard drives, 512 GB of RAM, and dual E5-2637 V4s. (Going for single-threaded performance.) It idles at about 200 watts, including drives and a few PCIe cards.

[IBM_THINKPAD_R51]

12 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

That's what I mean by what kind of power. (Also, nice.)

 

You'd need to add a 30 amp 120v circuit for a 3000va UPS. (20A 240v would work too, but 240v UPSes are stupid expensive.) A 2200 would fit on a 20A 120v circuit though.

 

Replace that thing with an R730, either a 16 bay or an R730XD, with dual E5-2697 V4 CPUs. It will be substantially faster than the R910 and should draw less than half the power.

 

For a point of comparison, my home server is an R730XD with twelve 12TB SATA hard drives, 512 GB of RAM, and dual E5-2637 V4s. (Going for single-threaded performance.) It idles at about 200 watts, including drives and a few PCIe cards.

So im the type of person to use all the power I can get so would an R930 (if one exists) use the same power as the r910 but have a shit ton more power? 

 

Also looks like ima get 2 smart ups 2200va. 

[Needfuldoer]

10 minutes ago, IBM_THINKPAD_R51 said:

So im the type of person to use all the power I can get so would an R930 (if one exists) use the same power as the r910 but have a shit ton more power? 

 

Also looks like ima get 2 smart ups 2200va. 

Yes, the R930 exists.

 

There's also the VRTX if you want blades and storage in one chassis.

 

I'd build a cluster of three R730s first though. Clusters are fun.

[Blue4130]

5 hours ago, IBM_THINKPAD_R51 said:

So im the type of person to use all the power I can get so would an R930 (if one exists) use the same power as the r910 but have a shit ton more power? 

 

Also looks like ima get 2 smart ups 2200va. 

I support you buying more R930's (or 730's or anything else) just so that you have more than one server in a 42U rack. Far too sparsely populated.

[IBM_THINKPAD_R51]

On 10/17/2023 at 7:11 PM, Blue4130 said:

I support you buying more R930's (or 730's or anything else) just so that you have more than one server in a 42U rack. Far too sparsely populated.

Still not done yet buuuut