Possible GPU upgrade ?

[Mikey89]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

Good model but I wouldn't get a 4060. If you really want to get one then sure, this is a good one

@filpo

 

Can you please look at that model in those photos, can you zoom in on the card's fans ?

 

Is it just me or do the fans where they are placed like right in the middle - they seem to be really bent ?

[filpo]

Just now, Mikey89 said:

s it just me or do the fans where they are placed like right in the middle - they seem to be really bent ?

it's just you. They look fine to me

[Mikey89]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

it's just you. They look fine to me

@filpo

 

Do you think the temps overall might be higher ?

 

I'm reading more about that model and it says about 0db technology - 0 decibels.

 

Does that mean the fans won't even spin when the card is idling ?

 

I'm kinda worried about the temps for that card.

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Does that mean the fans won't even spin when the card is idling ?

yes

 

2 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

I'm kinda worried about the temps for that card.

it means the fans will spin up when the gpu reaches a certain temperature

 

no need to be worried since the 40 series are quite efficient and could even be used in a tight space itx case with only 1 fan and a smaller heatsink

2 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Do you think the temps overall might be higher ?

Than a 3060 12gb? No

[RevGAM]

7 hours ago, Mikey89 said:

@hollyh88

 

@RevGAM

 

Sorry I only noticed this now but I'm not sure about it.

 

The ASUS TUF RTX 3060 I was looking at I noticed the front grill where the fans are is made of metal.

 

If it's made of metal wouldn't that potentially cause higher temperature ?

Metal is more thermally conductive than plastic so, if anything, it would lower temps.

7 hours ago, Mikey89 said:

I'm trying to choose between these 2 cards

 

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Graphics-DisplayPort-Military-Grade-Certification/dp/B0985VND1G

 

OR

 

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-REV2-0-WINDFORCE-GV-N3060GAMING-OC-12GD/dp/B0971BG25M/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?crid=35AUYLZUUPQ64&keywords=gigabyte+rtx+3060&qid=1694764225&sprefix=gigabyte+rtx+3060%2Caps%2C230&sr=8-11

 

Which do you guys think is a better option ?

 

Also which has better cooling ?

The Asus. As for cooling, I cannot say.

[Mikey89]

30 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Metal is more thermally conductive than plastic so, if anything, it would lower temps.

The Asus. As for cooling, I cannot say.

@filpo

 

@RevGAM

 

Crap i forgot.. the 4060 has frame generation on top of already DLSS 3.

 

Kinda tempted to get the 4060 now.

[filpo]

8 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

frame generation on top of already DLSS 3.

frame gen is dlss 3 

 

8 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Kinda tempted to get the 4060 now.

then get it. That asus model is pretty good

[Mikey89]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

frame gen is dlss 3 

 

then get it. That asus model is pretty good

@filpo

 

Aren't they 2 separate features ?

 

I thought DLSS 3.0 and frame generation 3.5 were separate technologies.

 

LIke when in gaming don't they get enabled separately ?

 

Like you can have DLSS without frame generation or backwards ?

[filpo]

15 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Aren't they 2 separate features ?

yes

 

15 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

frame generation 3.5

dlss 3.5 introduces ray reconstruction (focusing on ray tracing)

 

15 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

I thought DLSS 3.0

dlss 3.0 is frame generation

15 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

without frame generation or backwards ?

yes

[Mikey89]

7 minutes ago, filpo said:

nope

 

dlss 3.5 introduces ray reconstruction (focusing on ray tracing)

 

dlss 3.0 is frame generation

yes

@filpo

 

I'm sorry i'm not sure i fully understand.

 

So why in SW Jedi Survivor and other games you can enable them each separately ?

 

 

[filpo]

5 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

So why in SW Jedi Survivor and other games you can enable them each separately ?

sorry I got confused, they are two separate features

[Mikey89]

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

sorry I got confused, they are two separate features

@filpo

 

That 4060 is tempting but i'm a bit scared of the cooling.

 

I saw Jay'z video in it and in CP 2077 the fans weren't even spinning at 54'C - i think it was because it was drawing only 10W.

[filpo]

15 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

That 4060 is tempting but i'm a bit scared of the cooling.

you don't need to 

 

15 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

I saw Jay'z video in it and in CP 2077 the fans weren't even spinning at 54'C - i think it was because it was drawing only 10W.

isn't that a good thing? 54 degrees isn't bad at all. Don't be worried

[Mikey89]

3 minutes ago, filpo said:

you don't need to 

 

isn't that a good thing? 54 degrees isn't bad at all. Don't be worried

@filpo

 

I mean i'm more curious how the GPU's idle temp would be especially if the fans don't turn on.

 

My 1660 super idles at 35'C like during summer when it's 40'C outside.

[filpo]

5 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

if the fans don't turn on.

don't worry. They'll turn on when they reach a specific temperature

 

5 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

My 1660 super idles at 35'C like during summer when it's 40'C outside.

That's perfectly fine. You know the normal under load temperature of gpus is like 80 degrees Celsius? You have nothing to be worried about

[Mikey89]

10 minutes ago, filpo said:

don't worry. They'll turn on when they reach a specific temperature

 

That's perfectly fine. You know the normal under load temperature of gpus is like 80 degrees Celsius? You have nothing to be worried about

@filpo

 

I mean I know they can get in the 80s but I'm so used to my 1660 super's temps.

 

My 1660 super doesn't go beyond 65'C during hot summer days when gaming.

 

That's why I think it would take me a bit to adjust to like way higher temps.

 

Also now I'm torn between

 

ASUS TUF RTX 3060 - 12 GB

 

or

 

ASUS DUAL RTX 4060 - 8 GB for frame generation and DLSS 3

 

 

 

[Mikey89]

@filpo

 

@RevGAM

 

I know this is probably a STUPID thing to ask but I apologyze in advance for my idiocracy.

 

Do GPUs come with screws ?

 

I mean the screws to mount them in the case ?

 

I'm not entirely sure if I have those type of screws, not even sure if the PC case's box has any left.

[filpo]

3 hours ago, Mikey89 said:

Do GPUs come with screws ?

no

 

3 hours ago, Mikey89 said:

I'm not entirely sure if I have those type of screws, not even sure if the PC case's box has any left.

they should've come with the pc case. You should have some screwed into your pc case then

 

3 hours ago, Mikey89 said:

ASUS TUF RTX 3060 - 12 GB

 

or

 

ASUS DUAL RTX 4060 - 8 GB for frame generation and DLSS 3

your choice

The 4060 could get slightly better performance and the thermals won't be different at all. But I'd personally rather have 12gigs of vram

[Mikey89]

12 minutes ago, filpo said:

no

 

they should've come with the pc case. You should have some screwed into your pc case then

 

your choice

The 4060 could get slightly better performance and the thermals won't be different at all. But I'd personally rather have 12gigs of vram

@filpo

 

The thing i dislike about the ASUS DUAL RTX 4060 is the fans turn off when below 50'C.

 

Not really sure i like the idea of high idle temps.

[filpo]

4 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

The thing i dislike about the ASUS DUAL RTX 4060 is the fans turn off when below 50'C.

it'll most likely be the same with the asus tuf

 

4 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Not really sure i like the idea of high idle temps.

the card will rarely go over 35 degrees even in the summers since it's such a power efficient card. I wouldn't overthink it and I'd get the 4060

if you want you could get the msi gaming x MSI GAMING X GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card (RTX 4060 GAMING X 8G) - PCPartPicker

[Mikey89]

4 minutes ago, filpo said:

it'll most likely be the same with the asus tuf

 

the card will rarely go over 35 degrees even in the summers since it's such a power efficient card. I wouldn't overthink it and I'd get the 4060

if you want you could get the msi gaming x MSI GAMING X GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card (RTX 4060 GAMING X 8G) - PCPartPicker

@filpo

 

But the ASUS TUF is bigger and has 3 fans.

 

Wouldn't it have lower idle temps ?

 

Also i read on ASUS's website that the ASUS DUAL model's fans they stop when below 50'C on the card.

 

Do the ASUS TUF's fans also stop when they're below 50'C ?

[filpo]

Just now, Mikey89 said:

Wouldn't it have lower idle temps ?

Yes but it also draws more power and is just bigger overall. IMO the 4060 is a better buy in this situation but it's your choice. Both are good for you

 

1 minute ago, Mikey89 said:

Do the ASUS TUF's fans also stop when they're below 50'C ?

most likely. Most gpus do

Even if they do don't stress about such a small thing

[Mikey89]

11 hours ago, filpo said:

Yes but it also draws more power and is just bigger overall. IMO the 4060 is a better buy in this situation but it's your choice. Both are good for you

 

most likely. Most gpus do

Even if they do don't stress about such a small thing

@filpo

 

I think I will probably pull the trigger on that ASUS DUAL RTX 4060.

 

Could you please tell me how much my CPU will bottleneck ?

 

I found these 

 

https://www.cpuagent.com/cpu/amd-ryzen-5-3600/bottleneck/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060

 

https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/0Um1ge/3k/control/

 

 

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Mikey89 said:

@filpo

 

I think I will probably pull the trigger on that ASUS DUAL RTX 4060.

 

Could you please tell me how much my CPU will bottleneck ?

 

I found these 

 

https://www.cpuagent.com/cpu/amd-ryzen-5-3600/bottleneck/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060

 

https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/0Um1ge/3k/control/

 

 

It should be fine. If there is a bit of a bottleneck you could try overclocking your 3600

[Mikey89]

7 minutes ago, filpo said:

It should be fine. If there is a bit of a bottleneck you could try overclocking your 3600

@filpo

 

But we're those 2 websites accurate though ?

 

I mean that percentage they calculated.