Which prebuilt would be better to buy?

[Luka_875]

Budget (including currency): Around 1500$ (15,641.10 NOK)

Country: Norway

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: mostly for gaming like minecraft, apex and some others.

Other details So my friend wants to buy one of the prebuilt he has found, but hes unsure of which one is best to choose?
 

 

 

 

[ImWilly]

Frankly, self built is always better since it offers more customizability and less cost

 

But if I have to choose between these 2, I would pick Kraftig Omen since combo AMD CPU and GPU is ideal for gaming

RX 6700 XT is better than RTX 4060 in raw gaming power (excluding Ray tracing and Frame Gen) 

[Luka_875]

Just now, ImWilly said:

Frankly, self built is always better since it offers more customizability and less cost

I know that it is, I even told the friend that, but he doesnt seem to be willing to do that.

[PDifolco]

59 minutes ago, Luka_875 said:

I know that it is, I even told the friend that, but he doesnt seem to be willing to do that.

Yet both 15k prebuilts are massively overpriced, only the cheapest one is half badly priced...

 

[SolarNova]

8 hours ago, Luka_875 said:

I know that it is, I even told the friend that, but he doesnt seem to be willing to do that.

Maybe show you friend the following.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  (kr1607.00 @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (kr532.00 @ Proshop)
Motherboard: MSI B550 GAMING GEN3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (kr1337.00 @ CDON NO)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (kr1250.00 @ Proshop)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (kr769.00 @ CDON NO)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (kr4487.00 @ Proshop)
Case: Deepcool CG560 ATX Mid Tower Case  (kr907.00 @ Proshop)
Power Supply: Antec NeoECO Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (kr1376.00 @ Proshop)
Total: kr12265.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-13 18:03 CEST+0200

 

This is basically the 15999kr option, and "likely" with better picked parts aswell. Like double the VRAM (since its way better Capacity per Kr) and a Cached SSD.

Its almost 25% cheaper to self build it. And thats without changing the entire build to something that may be a more effective price:perf build.

[Luka_875]

On 8/13/2023 at 6:06 PM, SolarNova said:

Maybe show you friend the following.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  (kr1607.00 @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (kr532.00 @ Proshop)
Motherboard: MSI B550 GAMING GEN3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (kr1337.00 @ CDON NO)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (kr1250.00 @ Proshop)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (kr769.00 @ CDON NO)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (kr4487.00 @ Proshop)
Case: Deepcool CG560 ATX Mid Tower Case  (kr907.00 @ Proshop)
Power Supply: Antec NeoECO Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (kr1376.00 @ Proshop)
Total: kr12265.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-13 18:03 CEST+0200

 

This is basically the 15999kr option, and "likely" with better picked parts aswell. Like double the VRAM (since its way better Capacity per Kr) and a Cached SSD.

Its almost 25% cheaper to self build it. And thats without changing the entire build to something that may be a more effective price:perf build.

Alright, thank you, I'll see that with him.

[Luka_875]

On 8/13/2023 at 6:06 PM, SolarNova said:

Maybe show you friend the following.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  (kr1607.00 @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (kr532.00 @ Proshop)
Motherboard: MSI B550 GAMING GEN3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (kr1337.00 @ CDON NO)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (kr1250.00 @ Proshop)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (kr769.00 @ CDON NO)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (kr4487.00 @ Proshop)
Case: Deepcool CG560 ATX Mid Tower Case  (kr907.00 @ Proshop)
Power Supply: Antec NeoECO Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (kr1376.00 @ Proshop)
Total: kr12265.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-13 18:03 CEST+0200

 

This is basically the 15999kr option, and "likely" with better picked parts aswell. Like double the VRAM (since its way better Capacity per Kr) and a Cached SSD.

Its almost 25% cheaper to self build it. And thats without changing the entire build to something that may be a more effective price:perf build.

Also what could he upgrade if he wanted it to be 15k-16k? (shipping included)

 

[SolarNova]

3 hours ago, Luka_875 said:

Also what could he upgrade if he wanted it to be 15k-16k? (shipping included)

 

Well id say something along the lines of the following.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-13100F 3.4 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (kr1449.00 @ NetOnNet)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 ZERO DARK 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (kr510.00 @ Proshop)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (kr1887.00 @ CDON NO)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (kr1552.00 @ Proshop)
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S70 Blade 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (kr893.00 @ CDON NO)
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (kr6990.00 @ Proshop)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (kr889.00 @ Proshop)
Power Supply: Antec NeoECO Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (kr1376.00 @ Proshop)
Total: kr15546.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-15 02:19 CEST+0200

 

Obviously the case is down to personal taste for the most part, i'd suggest u keep with one with a mesh front for airflow.

 

The above system would be suitable for a CPU upgrade in the future to something like a 13700K.

 

or

 

go the AMD route which could upgrade to a 5800X3D with DDR4.

 

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  (kr1607.00 @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 ZERO DARK 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (kr510.00 @ Proshop)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS WIFI II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (kr2054.00 @ Proshop)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (kr1250.00 @ Proshop)
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S70 Blade 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (kr893.00 @ CDON NO)
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (kr6990.00 @ Proshop)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (kr889.00 @ Proshop)
Power Supply: Antec NeoECO Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (kr1376.00 @ Proshop)
Total: kr15569.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-15 02:35 CEST+0200

 

 

The intel route will have worse performance to begin with in games that use alot of threads, but stronger with games that use less threads.

 

Meanwhile the AMD will start of weaker in lower thread count games and stronger in higher thread count games.

 

Both are equally strong in gaming when upgraded to their best performing CPU, the 5800X3D for the AMD build and u can go as high as a 13900K on the Intel one. Ofc the 13900k is alot more expensive (about double) vs the 5800X3D.

 

[Luka_875]

6 hours ago, SolarNova said:

Well id say something along the lines of the following.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-13100F 3.4 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (kr1449.00 @ NetOnNet)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 ZERO DARK 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (kr510.00 @ Proshop)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (kr1887.00 @ CDON NO)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (kr1552.00 @ Proshop)
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S70 Blade 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (kr893.00 @ CDON NO)
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (kr6990.00 @ Proshop)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (kr889.00 @ Proshop)
Power Supply: Antec NeoECO Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (kr1376.00 @ Proshop)
Total: kr15546.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-15 02:19 CEST+0200

 

Obviously the case is down to personal taste for the most part, i'd suggest u keep with one with a mesh front for airflow.

 

The above system would be suitable for a CPU upgrade in the future to something like a 13700K.

 

or

 

go the AMD route which could upgrade to a 5800X3D with DDR4.

 

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  (kr1607.00 @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 ZERO DARK 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (kr510.00 @ Proshop)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS WIFI II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (kr2054.00 @ Proshop)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (kr1250.00 @ Proshop)
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S70 Blade 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (kr893.00 @ CDON NO)
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (kr6990.00 @ Proshop)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (kr889.00 @ Proshop)
Power Supply: Antec NeoECO Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (kr1376.00 @ Proshop)
Total: kr15569.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-15 02:35 CEST+0200

 

 

The intel route will have worse performance to begin with in games that use alot of threads, but stronger with games that use less threads.

 

Meanwhile the AMD will start of weaker in lower thread count games and stronger in higher thread count games.

 

Both are equally strong in gaming when upgraded to their best performing CPU, the 5800X3D for the AMD build and u can go as high as a 13900K on the Intel one. Ofc the 13900k is alot more expensive (about double) vs the 5800X3D.

 

Tysm man, if this doesn't convince him, then I don't know what will.