first pc build 800 usd budget

[delson007]

Budget (including currency): 800usd

Country: mexico

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: mainly gaming, rust, 7 days to die, apex legends, warzone 2, sons of the forest, pubg, gta 5, occasional video editing and recording

Other details

im currently on a laptop that has a 1050ti and i5 8300h and i really notice its age trying to play sons of the forest as i can barely get 20 fps on it at 1080p low settings, i already have a keyboard mouse and an ssd i can swap over to my build, recently got a 1080p 165z monitor in preparation for this build cause my laptops screen just randomly broke a while ago, and im trying to order all the parts for this build so i can have it by the start of june when my summer break starts, i was looking at if i should maybe wait for the rest of the 4000 series from nvidia to drop and 7000 series from amd but i think its just not going to be worth it and i really would like to have this pc by june, i havent really looked into how this build would be going with intel, i just heard that the r5 5600 is great value and should be good enough for a 6700xt and that amd motherboards are slightly cheaper, as for the gpu id be buying used from ebay because new on newegg after tax its 500usd (pretty much the same on amazon), and on ebay i can get the 6700 xt used for around 340

oh and i do not care about ray tracing performance if that matters at all, for the motherboard i do need something with wifi and i chose 2x16gb of ram because i notice im already using 16gb in a lot of games already on my laptop

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P9d3Ls

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($140.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($67.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger D OC Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: MSI MAG FORGE M100A MicroATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GX2 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $733.94 (+60 for the case that doesnt have a price on pcpartipicker)
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-16 17:58 EDT-0400

 

 

[Jenko32]

Do you have the possibility to buy the newer AM5 motherboard and Ryzen 7000 CPUs? AMD's AM4 that supports 1th to 5th gen is now over and it started again with 7th gen with AM5, might be better because just getting a new CPU in 5 years (if you'll need to upgrade from this build) is easier than changing both motherboard and CPU in the future

[Somerandomtechyboi]

24 minutes ago, delson007 said:

as for the gpu id be buying used from ebay because new on newegg after tax its 500usd (pretty much the same on amazon), and on ebay i can get the 6700 xt used for around 340

Based

 

24 minutes ago, delson007 said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P9d3Ls

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($140.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($67.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger D OC Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: MSI MAG FORGE M100A MicroATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GX2 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $733.94 (+60 for the case that doesnt have a price on pcpartipicker)
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-16 17:58 EDT-0400

Ryzen 5 5500 over the 5600, save the 40$ and simply clock the cpu to allcore 4.6-4.8ghz 1.35-1.4v vcore (middle or no llc)

 

For extra compensation of the halved cache you can buy 4 sticks of hma81gu6djr8n in 2666 or 3200 bin, obviously used so you can buy specific rams, lazy overclock to 3600 19-26-26-40 or 4000/4200 22-30-30-50, let mobo auto set the rest of the subtimings, though prefferably tune all the same rank diff rank diff dimm tertiaries (tighten multiple timings of the same type to speed up tuning) alongside tightening trfc trc trrd-l/s set tfaw to 1 (actual tfaw = trrd-s x 4). This should save a little bit of $ aswell depending on where you buy from, particularly lowbin <2666 since those usually go dirt cheap)

 

Consider buying a used office case, cases are one of the least important things to spend on since theyre literally just a hunk of metal to put your pc in and dont contribute to performance. Used office cases go <10$ and you can fix temps by simply running with no sidepanel (you can mod a mesh one on with some cheap neodymium magnets and some mosquito mesh)

 

Also consider buying a used psu as they tend to have very good deals on the used market, here in indo used 850w gold units regularly sell for 50-60$ over new where theyre like 100$+, i myself bought a 550w bronze recently for 12$ for my x58 rig that i wanna sell

 

With all those cost savings you may be able to get a 6800 instead

[delson007]

28 minutes ago, Jenko32 said:

Do you have the possibility to buy the newer AM5 motherboard and Ryzen 7000 CPUs? AMD's AM4 that supports 1th to 5th gen is now over and it started again with 7th gen with AM5, might be better because just getting a new CPU in 5 years (if you'll need to upgrade from this build) is easier than changing both motherboard and CPU in the future

i would like to but its just too far out of my budget im already pushing it with 800usd, the r5 7600 would cost me 250 usd instead of 140, and as im looking looking right now i see the motherboards are cheaper than i thought but still more than am4, cheapest i see on newegg being the ASRock B650M-HDV for 155usd after tax, im not sure how much of an issue this would be 3+ years in the future but the max speed for the ram is 6400MHz, and the cheapest 2x16gb kit i can find is this Crucial RAM 32GB Kit (2x16GB) DDR5 4800MHz CL40 for 110usd, so that would roughly be +200 which i do not have

[Jenko32]

1 hour ago, delson007 said:

i would like to but its just too far out of my budget im already pushing it with 800usd, the r5 7600 would cost me 250 usd instead of 140, and as im looking looking right now i see the motherboards are cheaper than i thought but still more than am4, cheapest i see on newegg being the ASRock B650M-HDV for 155usd after tax, im not sure how much of an issue this would be 3+ years in the future but the max speed for the ram is 6400MHz, and the cheapest 2x16gb kit i can find is this Crucial RAM 32GB Kit (2x16GB) DDR5 4800MHz CL40 for 110usd, so that would roughly be +200 which i do not have

I understand not justifiable at that price difference, here in Italy prices for AM5 mb, r7000 and ddr5 are just now getting lower but in the end you might not even update for a long time like me still with the i7-4790 after 10 years 

[Brooksie359]

2 hours ago, Jenko32 said:

Do you have the possibility to buy the newer AM5 motherboard and Ryzen 7000 CPUs? AMD's AM4 that supports 1th to 5th gen is now over and it started again with 7th gen with AM5, might be better because just getting a new CPU in 5 years (if you'll need to upgrade from this build) is easier than changing both motherboard and CPU in the future

You would see 0 difference in performance between say a 5600 and a 7600x simply because they will more than likely be gpu limited. Not worth pay significantly more for the newer stuff unless your budget is high. 

[Jenko32]

7 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

You would see 0 difference in performance between say a 5600 and a 7600x simply because they will more than likely be gpu limited. Not worth pay significantly more for the newer stuff unless your budget is high. 

Upgradability is the biggest motivation. Years from now he could change both CPU and GPU for cheap. Imagine having bought a 1600X when it first came, want to upgrade now but don't want to spend too much so you see used market and see 80$ ryzen 5 3600x. Might be worth it if you need to squeeze a little more. I did this from i5 4670 that my 2013 build had, to a 40€ i7 4790 I found in 2019 and that wasn't a big change but appreciable for so little money

[Brooksie359]

5 hours ago, Jenko32 said:

Upgradability is the biggest motivation. Years from now he could change both CPU and GPU for cheap. Imagine having bought a 1600X when it first came, want to upgrade now but don't want to spend too much so you see used market and see 80$ ryzen 5 3600x. Might be worth it if you need to squeeze a little more. I did this from i5 4670 that my 2013 build had, to a 40€ i7 4790 I found in 2019 and that wasn't a big change but appreciable for so little money

I wouldn't spend more for that especially at this budget. More than likely that would be something I would take into account if the costs were similar.