Upgrade 2070s to 4080ti

[AngelBond14]

Budget: ≤ $1000

Country: USA 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming (mainly FPS), Streaming/recording,  Star Citizen

Other details Currently I have a Ryzen 3700x and 2070 super paired with a 750w PSU. I thinking of upgrading the GPU to a 4070ti or 4070 which ever I can get my hands on. 

I trying to figure out if this would be something I should try, or should hold off. 

 

I would also be upgrading the PSU to 1000w or 1200w. 

 

This would also be like a intermediate/transition step before I do a Mobo/CPU upgrade as way not to completely blow my wallet if that makes any sense 

 

Monitor wise my main is 1440p144hz and my secondary is 4k60hz

 

Resizable Bar is available in the mobo bios so will def be using that. 

 

 

[rippy4500]

Whats your budget?

 

For a 4070 ti you could use your current psu assuming its a good quality unit.

 

And at 1440p and 4k you shouldnt be cpu bottlenecked too badly.

[eggowlred]

You should try to get an rx 7900 xt(x) depending on which version you can get and you only need a 850 water PSU for the gpu if you can’t get a rtx 4070 (ti) 

[AngelBond14]

3 minutes ago, rippy4500 said:

Whats your budget?

 

For a 4070 ti you could use your current psu assuming its a good quality unit.

 

And at 1440p and 4k you shouldnt be cpu bottlenecked too badly.

Thats what I was thinking, the psu I have right now is a evga supernova gt

[bezza...]

i would try for a 7900xtx or xt instead better performance for same or cheaper

[Princess Luna]

I'd go for the RX6950XT if you're not bothered by Ray Tracing... on most markets this card offers unbeatable price-to-performance, it's a performance beast for 1440p still for unbeatable prices and super well established drivers and support.

 

RX7900XT(X) -> main issue here is the completely dog shit state the support and drivers are, I was hugely disappointed with these cards lackluster performance improvements and all its issues, completely unusable in VR right now for some reason.

 

RTX 4080 -> underwhelming card due to its high price but still a significant beast all things considered, can be worth it if you're willing to pay the price and a must if you want Ray Tracing...

 

Keep in mind your R7 3700X might be a limiting factor for high refresh rates at times.

[Agall]

42 minutes ago, AngelBond14 said:

Budget: ≤ $1000

Country: USA 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming (mainly FPS), Streaming/recording,  Star Citizen

Other details Currently I have a Ryzen 3700x and 2070 super paired with a 750w PSU. I thinking of upgrading the GPU to a 4070ti or 4070 which ever I can get my hands on. 

I trying to figure out if this would be something I should try, or should hold off. 

 

I would also be upgrading the PSU to 1000w or 1200w. 

 

This would also be like a intermediate/transition step before I do a Mobo/CPU upgrade as way not to completely blow my wallet if that makes any sense 

 

Monitor wise my main is 1440p144hz and my secondary is 4k60hz

 

Resizable Bar is available in the mobo bios so will def be using that. 

 

 

You'd probably benefit more from doing a CPU upgrade first than a GPU if you mostly play FPS and star citizen. Star citizen CPU performance scaling is nuts and a 7800x3D would be an incredible jump.

 

If either way you're upgrading your CPU and the games you mostly play are more CPU bound than GPU (even at 1440p) then you mind as well wait for a better value card and jump on a new CPU first. 2070S is no slouch at 1440p even in 2023 and you're going to be more limited by your 3700x than your 2070S.

[SorryBella]

2 hours ago, AngelBond14 said:

I would also be upgrading the PSU to 1000w or 1200w.

No, itll be fine. Id even straight face say for dead stock, you can run 850W on a 4090.

 

But yeah, Star Citizen is a massive core hog and loves massive cache and clock speed. Id upgrade the CPU sooner than that.

[Beerzerker]

I agree that a PSU upgrade is a smart move in this case.
An older PSU may or may not "Like" the increase in nominal load placed on it.

I'd have to say for peace of mind, a 1000W unit is about right and will give a little headroom per load(s) it will have to handle, depending on all the rest of course and you did indicate a future upgrade with the board too.

No need to go crazy with the wattage but a unit running at or nearly at full capacity all the time isn't a great idea, that's why a bit of headroom is always a good idea when figuring in what wattage loads you expect it to handle.
Not to mention a larger unit will not make it use any more power since PSU's do not cram wattage into a system - That's not how they work because all they do is supply what wattage the system is demanding for at any given moment.

All it's wattage rating means is if the load demand is there it will handle up to that wattage per it's rating if there is ever a demand for it.

[AngelBond14]

On 4/5/2023 at 5:06 PM, Agall said:

You'd probably benefit more from doing a CPU upgrade first than a GPU if you mostly play FPS and star citizen. Star citizen CPU performance scaling is nuts and a 7800x3D would be an incredible jump.

 

If either way you're upgrading your CPU and the games you mostly play are more CPU bound than GPU (even at 1440p) then you mind as well wait for a better value card and jump on a new CPU first. 2070S is no slouch at 1440p even in 2023 and you're going to be more limited by your 3700x than your 2070S.

You know you make a good point. 

This is probably something that I'll be working on during the summer, hopefully microcenter will still have those combo deals for the cpu/mobo/ram 
but also we shall see how sales are. I'll keep this in mind lol
 

[Agall]

On 4/5/2023 at 4:48 PM, SorryClaire said:

No, itll be fine. Id even straight face say for dead stock, you can run 850W on a 4090.

 

But yeah, Star Citizen is a massive core hog and loves massive cache and clock speed. Id upgrade the CPU sooner than that.

You can technically run an RTX 4090 off a 750W if you're really ballsy, but that's a scenario where dialing down the TDP to 90% is ideal. 'Eco mode' 4090 still go brrrr.