Posted March 30, 2023 Hi hope someone can help, Most games like Fornite, Hogwarts legacy, MW, WZ 2.0 etc all even on the lowest graphics settings have massive lag spikes I've ruled out temps, cpu and gpu never get above 50-60c under game stress, all cores stay cool, motherboard + ram also Im guessing its going to be down to the HDD, its old and ancient but i want to be sure before i commit and buy an SSD i just dont have money to burn have attached screenshot of pc specs, to note im using the 2TB drive for my OS and games thanks dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Dallen988 said: Hi hope someone can help, Most games like Fornite, Hogwarts legacy, MW, WZ 2.0 etc all even on the lowest graphics settings have massive lag spikes I've ruled out temps, cpu and gpu never get above 50-60c under game stress, all cores stay cool, motherboard + ram also Im guessing its going to be down to the HDD, its old and ancient but i want to be sure before i commit and buy an SSD i just dont have money to burn have attached screenshot of pc specs, to note im using the 2TB drive for my OS and games thanks dave its the hard drive, mostly cuz its a hard drive but also cuz its from sep 2014. But it might also be your aging cpu. How are your cpu percentages while your in game (use something like rivatuner to check) Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 Author Just now, filpo said: its the hard drive, mostly cuz its a hard drive but also cuz its from sep 2014. But it might also be your aging cpu. How are your cpu percentages while your in game (use something like rivatuner to check) Yeah the HDD is ancient i figured it was that, ill run a game now and down rivatuner, give me 5 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dallen988 said: Hogwarts legacy for hogwarts legacy you might be running into a vram issue because these new games use a lot of vram even at very low settings Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 Author 1 minute ago, filpo said: for hogwarts legacy you might be running into a vram issue because these new games use a lot of vram even at very low settings HW legacy isnt a major one, id just expect something as little as fornite to be atleast playable in a better DX rather than not, I coud be wrong my equipment is probably far too outdated for what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 Author 7 minutes ago, filpo said: . How are your cpu percentages while your in game (use something like rivatuner to check) cpu coming back fine i do maintain quite often, cleaning, thermal paste, great system cooling etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Dallen988 said: HW legacy isnt a major one, id just expect something as little as fornite to be atleast playable in a better DX rather than not, I coud be wrong my equipment is probably far too outdated for what it is i wouldn't be too worried about minor stutters in fortnite, it happens with everyone Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Dallen988 said: cpu coming back fine i do maintain quite often, cleaning, thermal paste, great system cooling etc your cpu usage isn't high at all while in game? (if your gpu usage isn't more than 90 its probably a cpu bottleneck, unless your using a capped framerate) Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 Author 1 minute ago, filpo said: your cpu usage isn't high at all while in game? (if your gpu usage isn't more than 90 its probably a cpu bottleneck, unless your using a capped framerate) yeah from what i can see cpu seems totally fine, ive just done abit more checking and the ram is quite slow after using a few programs, its only 667mhz lol... probably worth upgrading that too? 1 minute ago, filpo said: i wouldn't be too worried about minor stutters in fortnite, it happens with everyone i thought that too but even on the dead lowest settings im only getting about 80fps but still geting droped down to 30's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Dallen988 said: its only 667mhz lol.. oh wow maybe you need a whole platform upgrade (not to be disrespectful) but hogwarts legacy and fortnite especially might want some higher ram speeds and better cpus. Would you like some suggestions (if you have the money to spend) Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 Author Just now, filpo said: oh wow maybe you need a whole platform upgrade (not to be disrespectful) but hogwarts legacy and fortnite especially might want some higher ram speeds and better cpus. Would you like some suggestions (if you have the money to spend) I totally get it, the PC is old to say the least, Ive had it that long i think its time for upgrades I do want to spend a little bit but ideally as cheap as physically possible lol would pref to avoid GPU upgrade if possible Would love a cheap Ram and SSD upgrade suggestion if you could? (UK Based) and also a CPU as i can always get that later down the line, i know ssd's arent too expensive these days and same with a ram kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 Very Very slow CPU, Not enough ram + HDD are your problems. Vishera arch wasnt good when it came out in 2012 ( I know I had FX-8350 ) I dont want to be disrespectful but that hardware is ancient so the fact you can even start those new games is quite extraordinary. R9 5900X, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240, Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE V2, 2x16GB Kingston FuryX 3800MHZ CL18 Hynix DJR "Tuned" , Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC, Windows 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, Dallen988 said: its only 667mhz lol... Some apps will report the true frequency, but because its DDR (Double data rate), you need to multiply it by 2 to get what it would say on the box, so in your case its 1333MT/s, which is a quite standard ddr3 speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 Author 1 minute ago, KnoT said: Very Very slow CPU, Not enough ram + HDD are your problems. Vishera arch wasnt good when it came out in 2012 ( I know I had FX-8350 ) I dont want to be disrespectful but that hardware is ancient so the fact you can even start those new games is quite extraordinary. It trys its little heart out it does hahah any cheap ram ssd and cpu reccoemdations would be great cheaper the better lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 Author 1 minute ago, Latvian Video said: Some apps will report the true frequency, but because its DDR (Double data rate), you need to multiply it by 2 to get what it would say on the box, so in your case its 1333MT/s, which is a quite standard ddr3 speed ahh great so the ram isnt too bad? its 3 4gb sticks, i was sure myself they werent that slow so thats a good start haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Dallen988 said: It trys its little heart out it does hahah any cheap ram ssd and cpu reccoemdations would be great cheaper the better lol How big of a budget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Dallen988 said: I totally get it, the PC is old to say the least, Ive had it that long i think its time for upgrades I do want to spend a little bit but ideally as cheap as physically possible lol would pref to avoid GPU upgrade if possible Would love a cheap Ram and SSD upgrade suggestion if you could? (UK Based) and also a CPU as i can always get that later down the line, i know ssd's arent too expensive these days and same with a ram kit the gpu is perfectly fine for now (still very respectable) Nice to see your a fellow UK resident. For the RAM check out the RAM in the ss below (fastest ddr2 sticks i could find). Then for a cheap ssd go for something with a dram cache like the Crucial MX500 500GB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 Inch Internal SSD - Up to 560MB/s - CT500MX500SSD1 : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories for 40 pounds but you can go for the same ssd but cheaper with less capacity if you don't need too much to store the games Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 Just now, Dallen988 said: ahh great so the ram isnt too bad? its 3 4gb sticks, i was sure myself they werent that slow so thats a good start haha You will need 2 upgrade to new platform so you will need new CPU, MOBO and Ram anyway... Whats your budged ? R9 5900X, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240, Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE V2, 2x16GB Kingston FuryX 3800MHZ CL18 Hynix DJR "Tuned" , Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC, Windows 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 Author 1 minute ago, filpo said: the gpu is perfectly fine for now (still very respectable) Nice to see your a fellow UK resident. For the RAM check out the RAM in the ss below (fastest ddr2 sticks i could find). Then for a cheap ssd go for something with a dram cache like the Crucial MX500 500GB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 Inch Internal SSD - Up to 560MB/s - CT500MX500SSD1 : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories for 40 pounds but you can go for the same ssd but cheaper with less capacity if you don't need too much to store the games Thanks mate, just after checking the ram i currently have is actually 1300mhz, is it still worth upgrading? I'm going to go for the 250gb of that SSD, i only really play a few games so plus windows install plenty left over can just keep the 2tb HDD as a reserve for any other data too? Whats a good next cpu would you say? I didn't think there would be many UK residents on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 Author 3 minutes ago, KnoT said: You will need 2 upgrade to new platform so you will need new CPU, MOBO and Ram anyway... Whats your budged ? cheap cheap cheap cheap is all i can say hahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 Author 3 minutes ago, Latvian Video said: How big of a budget? cheaaaaaap as can be lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dallen988 said: cheaaaaaap as can be lol I need some sort of price, is the price go to your nearest ewaste and get free stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 Author 1 minute ago, Latvian Video said: I need some sort of price, is the price go to your nearest ewaste and get free stuff? No such thing as ewaste places around here Say £100-200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Dallen988 said: Thanks mate, just after checking the ram i currently have is actually 1300mhz, is it still worth upgrading? I'm going to go for the 250gb of that SSD, i only really play a few games so plus windows install plenty left over can just keep the 2tb HDD as a reserve for any other data too? Whats a good next cpu would you say? I didn't think there would be many UK residents on here it could still be worth it but realistically no. The 250 gig is alright then. yes you can keep the 2tb hard drive if you want the extra storage (by all means) A good next cpu would include a platform upgrade so save up a bit more money and maybe check out something like the cpu and mobo in ss below, but the cooler isn't included in the shot so get that and some 16 gigs of ddr4 RAM which would be 40 pounds as well as a cooler for the chip which would be an extra 35 Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dallen988 said: No such thing as ewaste places around here Say £100-200 ye not in the UK, just a bunch of bins full of plastic Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help Current parts list: CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16 SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120 PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1 Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV Mouse: Logitech G203 Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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