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Hi everybody!

 

I have problem with my PC, and I can’t determine why that is happening.

Sometime, not every time, when I’m playing RS6 siege and Quake Champions (everything maxed out), my PC turns off and then turns on itself.

I tried troubleshooting it, but I still don’t know why that’s happening.

I think that maybe power supply is too weak, or motherboard is potato.

 

This is my specification:
CPU: i9 10900F
GPU: Nvidia RTX 3090
RAM: KINGSTON HyperX FURY RGB 16GB DDR4 3200MHz CL16
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B460M-K
PSU: ROG-STRIX-750G 750W

Case: Fractal Torrent with ARGB fans
AIO: Corsair iCUE H170i ELITE LCD Display (I’m using push pull, so I have in total 7x140mm vents and 2x180mm)

 

Regarding the processor, I changed some settings in BIOS so now it can draw 220w of power instead of 65W.

Prior RTX 3090 I had RTX 3070 with same processor and settings I didn’t have any problems with PC shutting down.

For RAM, XMP is enabled.

 

I tried running FurMark on couple of maximum resolutions, and I was running it for 1hr, with temps of 68C and nothing happen.

I tried running CPU stress test (HeavyLoad app) and I was running it for 1hr with CPU temps around 58C, and nothing happened.

But as soon as I run one test (for example CPU), same millisecond I click to run graphic test (and reverse) PC turns off.

I placed video in attachment of that.

 

Thank you for help in advance!

 

Video link: https://streamable.com/d726lq

 

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The combined load of your CPU and GPU could couse your your OCP (over current protection) to trip up.

The 3090 draws around 125~150 extra watts compared to your old 3070.

People have run 3090's on the 750 even 650watt PSU's, but this unit is made by seasonic, and their lower wattage PSU's combined with their OCP,OVP can trip up high end systems and force a shutdown.

 

Your thermals are not at fault here, your PSU can probably not handle the combined load without trying to protect itsekf

*note that this is just from what I can find right now, I'd love someone elses opinion

 

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If it can't handle CPU+GPU load at the same time, that points to a PSU (power) issue.

 

The CPU can draw up to 224W.

The GPU has a power draw about 350W to a peak of 365 nad transient spikes at least double.

 

Your PSU can handle 744W on 12V and your CPU+GPU reach almost 600 out of that.

Now, you have a lot of 12V fans with lighting, and the machine does consume a lot...

 

I would test with a stronger PSU. Or, at least, revert the change you've made to the power draw (removing the TDP limit) and test that way.

 

 

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
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Thank you guys for reply!

 

I would like to change my current PSU.

Which 1000W Seasonic PSU you recommend?  

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2 minutes ago, JonyDimit said:

Thank you guys for reply!

 

I would like to change my current PSU.

Which 1000W Seasonic PSU you recommend?  

GX or PX. 

 

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
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7 minutes ago, JonyDimit said:

Seasonic

Why does it have to be Seasonic? There's other vendors too.

 

1 minute ago, 191x7 said:

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

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Does not have to be Seasonic, I just want to purchase good one so I don't have problems with system shutting down

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10 minutes ago, Bismut said:

Why does it have to be Seasonic? There's other vendors too.

 

Yup.

Doesn't have to be, SeaSonic is just one of the most "premium" vendors, asus, Corsair etc also works, as long as it's a well known brand.

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6 minutes ago, JonyDimit said:

Does not have to be Seasonic, I just want to purchase good one so I don't have problems with system shutting down

What would you be willing to spend?

 

My Rig: CPU : 10700K | RAM : Trident Z Neo 3600Mhz c16 32G (4x8) | CPU cooler : NHD15 | GPU : ASUS ProArt 4070 | PSU : Corsair RM850 (black label) | CASE : Corsair 5000D Airflow | Storage : Samsung 970 evo 1TB, WD Black 1TB, Samsung evo 850 Sata SSD | Casefans : Lian Li Unifan SL120 7X|

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Damn, looking at all of those PSU-s, and I'm confuzed. Which one i should take? 

For example I was looking at Pure Power 11 FM and I saw this for that one: Be aware that strictly multi-rail units (without a possibility to switch to single-rail mode) can trip with very high power draw GPUs (RTX3080/RX6800XT and higher) and/or CPUs (unlocked Intel i7/i9 or AMD Threadripper) due to lower OCP tripping point when the load on rails is unbalanced. Read the manual and balance out the load if that happens.

 

Which is the same problem I have with ASUS PSU.

 

So If anybody can help me to decide which one to take, I would appreciate that 😄

 

My budget for PSU is around 300$

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1 minute ago, JonyDimit said:

Damn, looking at all of those PSU-s, and I'm confuzed. Which one i should take? 

Basically any a tier unit and the cheapest one so you save money

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31 minutes ago, JonyDimit said:

Thank you guys for reply!

 

I would like to change my current PSU.

Which 1000W Seasonic PSU you recommend?  

I always recommend Corsair RMx series - if available to you, you can have a look at these as well as a replacement 

 

MSI B450 Pro Gaming Pro Carbon AC | AMD Ryzen 2700x  | NZXT  Kraken X52  | MSI GeForce RTX2070 Armour | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4*8) 3200MhZ | Samsung 970 evo M.2nvme 500GB Boot  / Samsung 860 evo 500GB SSD | Corsair RM550X (2018) | Fractal Design Meshify C white | Logitech G pro Wireless | Gigabyte Aurus AD27QD 

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After long search, I couldn't find in my place Corsair RMx series (out of stock) but they recommend me as replacement this one:
ASUS ROG Strix 1000G 1000W 180USD

 

Should I take it, or no?

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And in the end I ended up purchasing "BE QUIET! Straight Power 11 Platinum 1200W"

Hopefully it was good choise 🙂

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1 hour ago, JonyDimit said:

And in the end I ended up purchasing "BE QUIET! Straight Power 11 Platinum 1200W"

Hopefully it was good choise 🙂

That is a really good PSU. A bit much sure but this will last you through multiple platform upgrades

 

My Rig: CPU : 10700K | RAM : Trident Z Neo 3600Mhz c16 32G (4x8) | CPU cooler : NHD15 | GPU : ASUS ProArt 4070 | PSU : Corsair RM850 (black label) | CASE : Corsair 5000D Airflow | Storage : Samsung 970 evo 1TB, WD Black 1TB, Samsung evo 850 Sata SSD | Casefans : Lian Li Unifan SL120 7X|

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18 hours ago, JonyDimit said:

And in the end I ended up purchasing "BE QUIET! Straight Power 11 Platinum 1200W"

Hopefully it was good choise 🙂

Absolute unit of a PSU. You’ll be fine, very solid choice

 

MSI B450 Pro Gaming Pro Carbon AC | AMD Ryzen 2700x  | NZXT  Kraken X52  | MSI GeForce RTX2070 Armour | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4*8) 3200MhZ | Samsung 970 evo M.2nvme 500GB Boot  / Samsung 860 evo 500GB SSD | Corsair RM550X (2018) | Fractal Design Meshify C white | Logitech G pro Wireless | Gigabyte Aurus AD27QD 

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Thank you all for help! Problem is solved with new PSU unit 🙂

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