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I think you'll get more out of your gaming experience if you drop the 5800X3D for something cheaper like a 5600 or 5700X. Then you can use the extra budget to get a 3060 Ti or even a 3070. I would also see what you have available second hand.

 

Not sure how much the Corsair RAM is, but I would wager you could probably save $10-20 on other similarly performing RAM.

 

The Crucial P3 is a good drive, but it is QLC, and is only PCI-E 3.0. See if you can fit a decent PCI-E 4.0 TLC SSD like the Kingston KC3000, WD SN850X, Samsung 980 Pro, etc.

 

You don't need a Titanium rated PSU. You can probably save a pretty penny going to a 750W Gold PSU, something like a Corsair RM750/RM750X or Seasonic Prime 750.

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Budget (including currency): around 500.000Ft or 1349 dollars

Country: Hungary

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: R6 Siege, Farcry 6, nothing more demanding

Other details: I dont have any system and I play from Geforce now, I have every pheripheral needed, I will be buying it around february,My current monitor is WQHD 144Hz 32 inch and i want to have it running atleast siege at a stable 144fps

The parts i currently have picked for myself:

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D
  • CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid Lite 240
  • Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TORPEDO
  • Ram: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200
  • Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280
  • GPU: Inno3D Twin X2 GeForce RTX 3060 12GB
  • Case: Fractal Design Focus G
  • PSU: SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Titanium 650 W

I just know its not perfect, so what should I change?

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I think you'll get more out of your gaming experience if you drop the 5800X3D for something cheaper like a 5600 or 5700X. Then you can use the extra budget to get a 3060 Ti or even a 3070. I would also see what you have available second hand.

 

Not sure how much the Corsair RAM is, but I would wager you could probably save $10-20 on other similarly performing RAM.

 

The Crucial P3 is a good drive, but it is QLC, and is only PCI-E 3.0. See if you can fit a decent PCI-E 4.0 TLC SSD like the Kingston KC3000, WD SN850X, Samsung 980 Pro, etc.

 

You don't need a Titanium rated PSU. You can probably save a pretty penny going to a 750W Gold PSU, something like a Corsair RM750/RM750X or Seasonic Prime 750.

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5 minutes ago, CyberneticTitan said:

I think you'll get more out of your gaming experience if you drop the 5800X3D for something cheaper like a 5600 or 5700X. Then you can use the extra budget to get a 3060 Ti or even a 3070. I would also see what you have available second hand.

 

Not sure how much the Corsair RAM is, but I would wager you could probably save $10-20 on other similarly performing RAM.

 

The Crucial P3 is a good drive, but it is QLC, and is only PCI-E 3.0. See if you can fit a decent PCI-E 4.0 TLC SSD like the Kingston KC3000, WD SN850X, Samsung 980 Pro, etc.

 

You don't need a Titanium rated PSU. You can probably save a pretty penny going to a 750W Gold PSU, something like a Corsair RM750/RM750X or Seasonic Prime 750.

Corsair ram is pretty cost effective imo, but I agree with the other points here.


if you go 3070, go for At least 800W on PSU.

 

I also think you should go tower cooler instead of an AIO. This is because AIOs are overkill for these CPU and they are less reliable (if the pump fails and you don’t notice it could kill your CPU, where as if the fan fails on a tower cooler your case fans will pick up the slack.).

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Common build advice: 1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticably improve performance past 240mm.

 

useful websites: https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

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Favourite Games of all time: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii

 

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4 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

Corsair ram is pretty cost effective imo, but I agree with the other points here.


if you go 3070, go for At least 800W on PSU.

 

I also think you should go tower cooler instead of an AIO. This is because AIOs are overkill for these CPU and they are less reliable (if the pump fails and you don’t notice it could kill your CPU, where as if the fan fails on a tower cooler your case fans will pick up the slack.).

My concern with  going with a tower cooler is noise. Wont it be too noisy compared to an AIO?

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16 minutes ago, Leopolligon said:

My concern with  going with a tower cooler is noise. Wont it be too noisy compared to an AIO?


There will be no more noise than you already had from the case/radiator fans. Also, pumps on AIOs can be easily as noisy as fans. Finally, if your gaming you either have headphones blocking any noise or you have speaker covering it, so PC noise isn’t hugely important past a certain point (unless your a true audiophile and have some crazy setup).

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Expand for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components and other tech. I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need.

 

Common build advice: 1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticably improve performance past 240mm.

 

useful websites: https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

He/Him

 

I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 3 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). While I believe I have an decent amount of experience in spec’ing, building and troubleshooting computers, keep in mind I'm not an expert or a professional and I make mistakes.

 

Favourite Games of all time: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii

 

Main PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C

 

Secondary PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P

 

TrueNAS Server: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C

 

Laptop: 13.4" ASUS GZ301ZE ROG Flow Z13, WUXGA 120Hz, i9 12900H, 16GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe SSD, 4GB RTX 3050 Ti, TB4, Win11 Home, Used with: 2*ThinkPad Universal Thunderbolt 4 Dock, Logitech G603, Logitech G502 Hero, Logitech K120, Logitech G915 TKL, Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2, Logitech G PRO X Gaming-Headset (with Blue Icepop in Black), {specs to be updated: two monitors}

 

Other: LTT Screwdriver, LTT Stubby Screwdriver, IFIXIT Pro Tech Toolkit, Playstation 1 SCPH-102, Playstation 2 SCPH-30003, Gameboy Micro Silver OXY-001, Nintendo Wii U WUP-001(03), Playstation 4 CUH-1116A, Nintendo Switch OLED HEG-001, Yamaha RX-A4A Black AV Receiver, Monitor Audio Radius (4*90s, 1*200s, 2*270s, 1*380s), TP-Link TL-SG105-M2, Netgear GS308, IPhone 14 Pro Max 128GB Space Black, Secretlab TITAN Evo (Black SoftWeave Plus Fabric), 2*CyberPower BR1200ELCD-UK BRICs Series, Samsung 40" ES6800 Series 6 SMART 3D FHD LED TV, UGREEN USB 3.2 Gen 2 10Gbps M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure, SABRENT 3.5" SATA drive docking station

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Curious, what are AMD gpu prices like in Hungary? Because in the US you can sometimes find RX 6800 XT for RX 3070 prices and the 6800 XT is very much an RTX 3080 class card. The low VRAM of the 3060 Ti / 3070 / 3070 Ti scared me away from buying them for 1440p gaming, and 3060 isn't a very strong gpu for the price (now a 3070 with 12GB instead of 8GB would have been perfect).

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