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Help finding budget hybrid camera - A7R II vs Zv-E10 VS Canon M6

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Hi, I urgently need a decent hybrid camera for upcoming work (semi professional) and want a good hybrid camera for both photos and videos. I don't mind either mirrored or mirrorless. I have seen a few camera but not too sure which to get. My budget is around £600 (don't mind used ones from ebay)

ZV-E10 : From what I have heard it has decent video, but I've also been told it has an old outdated sensor and processor

M6 : Not too sure about this one, looks good from the surface but open to opinions. Is it worth going to EOS MK2 ?

A7R II : Full frame but lenses more expensive and apparently video is not that good.

A7 II : Same situation as A7R II

Canon EOS 5D II/III : DSLR not a full frame (which I dont mind tbh) but not too sure about the video quality

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with a bit higher budget I'd say X-S10 or X-T30

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5 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

with a bit higher budget I'd say X-S10 or X-T30

Yeah I  just came across the XT-3 and the XT-30, both of which seem to be perfect apart from the 30 minute video limit which might be a bit of an issue when doing events and stuff. Is it possible to use it as a webcam and record/livestream from my laptop for larger times, probably an hour or two at the time

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9 hours ago, YellowJersey said:

I'd rule out the  5D MKIII. The video is pretty bad, especially by today's standards.

Yeah, think the main competitors are the XT-3, A6600 and EOS M6 right now, I prefer mirrorless as to DSLR's aswell 

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Also is it very difficult to shoot auto on the XT3 ? From what I've heard it doesn't have a full auto mode and a lot of the times I might need to get a shot quite quickly and not have too much set-up time

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30 minutes ago, RTX 3090 said:

Also is it very difficult to shoot auto on the XT3 ? From what I've heard it doesn't have a full auto mode and a lot of the times I might need to get a shot quite quickly and not have too much set-up time

I honestly don't know. But I think out of your options, the XT3 is probably your best bet. Lens support for the APS-C E-mount cameras hasn't been great.

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24 minutes ago, RTX 3090 said:

Also is it very difficult to shoot auto on the XT3 ? From what I've heard it doesn't have a full auto mode and a lot of the times I might need to get a shot quite quickly and not have too much set-up time

Fujis full auto is quite good

36 minutes ago, RTX 3090 said:

Yeah I  just came across the XT-3 and the XT-30, both of which seem to be perfect apart from the 30 minute video limit which might be a bit of an issue when doing events and stuff. Is it possible to use it as a webcam and record/livestream from my laptop for larger times, probably an hour or two at the time

getting beyond 30 mins often requires just grabbing a camcorder or video focused hybrid body

GH5/GH4 may fit the bill the 2x crop isn't fun when you want wide angle shots but MFT lenses are cheap

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1 hour ago, GDRRiley said:

Fujis full auto is quite good

2 hours ago, RTX 3090 said:

From what I heard the XT-3 does not have full auto, I think this is only available to the XT-30, and the Xs-10, but non of the XT lineup have full auto, not sure if this is true. 

 

1 hour ago, GDRRiley said:

getting beyond 30 mins often requires just grabbing a camcorder or video focused hybrid body

The issue is I would rarely be going over 30 mins, maybe like once every few months, so it's a nice to have feature, but not the primary focus of the camera. 

 

Is the Dual SD card slot essential ? I might just go for the XT-30 instead as the Auto mode is very appealing

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8 hours ago, RTX 3090 said:

From what I heard the XT-3 does not have full auto, I think this is only available to the XT-30, and the Xs-10, but non of the XT lineup have full auto, not sure if this is true. 

It can theres an auto setting on every dial

8 hours ago, RTX 3090 said:

The issue is I would rarely be going over 30 mins, maybe like once every few months, so it's a nice to have feature, but not the primary focus of the camera. 

 

Is the Dual SD card slot essential ? I might just go for the XT-30 instead as the Auto mode is very appealing

okay then I like fuji bodys beter than MFT

Dual SD card slots is not essential, if I was shooting a 10k wedding yeah I'd want it 

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I am probably going to buy the X-T3 body but another concern is lenses. Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent lens (new or used) upto £100ish, and maybe a prime on top of that for aprox 50ish ? Not too sure which lens to choose

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On 11/23/2022 at 6:26 AM, RTX 3090 said:

I am probably going to buy the X-T3 body but another concern is lenses. Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent lens (new or used) upto £100ish, and maybe a prime on top of that for aprox 50ish ? Not too sure which lens to choose

a good lens is going to be more than that a Fuji 35 or sigma 30mm are 150-250$
18-55mm f/2.8-4 R LM OIS Lens is going to be 200$+ most likely

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On 11/29/2022 at 6:23 AM, GDRRiley said:

18-55mm f/2.8-4 R LM OIS Lens is going to be 200$+ most likely

in the UK they're going for around £250ish, would ut be better to buy a Sony/Canon mount lens and get an adapter instead ror will this cause more issues ?

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7 hours ago, RTX 3090 said:

in the UK they're going for around £250ish, would ut be better to buy a Sony/Canon mount lens and get an adapter instead ror will this cause more issues ?

no that will cause more issues.

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On 11/30/2022 at 7:16 PM, GDRRiley said:

no that will cause more issues.

Would a 35mm F2 lens be able to take "normal" photos (as in no bokeh, for example if theres a large group of people (far away, not close to the camera) or a landscape that i want to be seen clearly). 

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3 hours ago, RTX 3090 said:

Would a 35mm F2 lens be able to take "normal" photos (as in no bokeh, for example if theres a large group of people (far away, not close to the camera) or a landscape that i want to be seen clearly). 

yes it would however a bit wider of a lens would be more ideal for that. Finding a used Fuji 16mm F2.8 maybe an option
Bokeh comes down to how wide open (F2) or stopped down the lens is (F8 or F11)

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