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4TB WD Black vs. 4TB Toshiba N300?

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Currently looking for a capacity upgrade for my PC's 2TB Barracuda, and am trying to decide between the following, since they differ by less than 2 AUD:

I can't exactly find any comparison between these 2 drives since they're not only for unrelated use-cases but are also from different brands. At the moment I'm currently leaning towards the WD Black.

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14 minutes ago, FluorescentGreen5 said:

At the moment I'm currently leaning towards the WD Black.

Personally that would be my choice as well, for use in your PC. I've used many WD Black drives over the years. WD drive has more cache and a longer warranty.

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WD Black 4TB Desktop HDD Specifications

Capacities:

4TB – five x 800GB platters (WD4003FZEX)

Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s

Rotational Speed: 7,200 RPM (nominal)

Buffer Size: 64 MB

Load/unload Cycles: 300,000 minimum

Buffer To Host (Serial ATA): 6 Gb/s (Max)

Formatted Capacity: 4,000,787 MB

User Sectors Per Drive: 7,814,037,168

Physical Dimensions

Height 26.1 mm

Depth 147 mm

Width 101.6 mm

Weight: 0.78 kg

Environmental Specifications

Shock

Operating Shock (Read): 30G, 2 ms

Non-operating Shock: 300G, 2 ms

Acoustics

Idle Mode: 29 dBA (average)

Seek Mode 0: 34 dBA (average)

Temperature

Operating: 32° F to 140° F

Non-operating: -40° F to 158° F

Power Dissipation

Read/Write: 9.50 Watts

Idle: 8.10 Watts

Standby: 1.30 Watts

Sleep: 1.30 Watts

Warranty: 5 year

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And here's the specs for the Toshiba

Toshiba N300 Specifications

Form factor: 3.5-inch

Interface: SATA 6.0 Gbit/s

Capacities: 4TB

Rotational speed: 7200 rpm

Buffer size: 128MB

Dimensions: 147 (L) x 101.85 (W) x 26.1 (H) mm

Weight: 770 g max.

RAID support

Workloads: 180TB/year

Warranty: 3-years

 

The N300 features Dynamic Cache Technology, which provides a noticeable boost in performance via a 128MB data buffer in multi-RAID NAS environments. Toshiba has also equipped their N300 drives with advanced control and sensing technology to dampen vibration wear and tear (e.g. ‘knock-on’ vibration). To achieve this, Toshiba has attached various sensors to detect the slightest shock while the built-in RV sensors compensate for rotational vibration.

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I would go with Torshiba

37 minutes ago, Thomas4 said:

WD Black 4TB Desktop HDD Specifications

Capacities:

4TB – five x 800GB platters (WD4003FZEX)

Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s

Rotational Speed: 7,200 RPM (nominal)

Buffer Size: 64 MB

Load/unload Cycles: 300,000 minimum

Buffer To Host (Serial ATA): 6 Gb/s (Max)

Formatted Capacity: 4,000,787 MB

User Sectors Per Drive: 7,814,037,168

Physical Dimensions

Height 26.1 mm

Depth 147 mm

Width 101.6 mm

Weight: 0.78 kg

Environmental Specifications

Shock

Operating Shock (Read): 30G, 2 ms

Non-operating Shock: 300G, 2 ms

Acoustics

Idle Mode: 29 dBA (average)

Seek Mode 0: 34 dBA (average)

Temperature

Operating: 32° F to 140° F

Non-operating: -40° F to 158° F

Power Dissipation

Read/Write: 9.50 Watts

Idle: 8.10 Watts

Standby: 1.30 Watts

Sleep: 1.30 Watts

Warranty: 5 year

This is the old version of the drive, the new is called WD4005FZBX. But its way more expensive @FluorescentGreen5I would get the N300, much newer and faster.

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3 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

I would go with Torshiba

This is the old version of the drive, the new is called WD4005FZBX. But its way more expensive @FluorescentGreen5I would get the N300, much newer and faster.

I would get WD Red Plus or Ironwolf NAS, much cheaper and will be quieter because they're not 7200RPM.

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1 minute ago, ZetZet said:

I would get WD Red Plus or Ironwolf NAS, much cheaper and will be quieter because they're not 7200RPM.

Depends on OP's use cases, but 7200rpm drives at least don't totally suck in performance.

 

I have a bunch of N300s in an older NAS. They work better than the WD Reds (old CMR version) they replaced, but Black is probably ok too for general purpose storage.

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2 minutes ago, porina said:

Depends on OP's use cases, but 7200rpm drives at least don't totally suck in performance.

 

I have a bunch of N300s in an older NAS. They work better than the WD Reds (old CMR version) they replaced, but Black is probably ok too for general purpose storage.

NAS drives are definitely fast enough for anything I'd ever want to use a HDD for these days. N300 is good, but I have read responses that it is louder than 5400-5900RPM alternatives. Not to mention more than 20 dollars more expensive for 4TB. 

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2 minutes ago, ZetZet said:

N300 is good, but I have read responses that it is louder than 5400-5900RPM alternatives.

That may be the case but OP was comparing N300 to Black, and without looking at the details Black is their performance tier right? Up to OP if perf or noise is the priority.

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Just now, porina said:

That may be the case but OP was comparing N300 to Black, and without looking at the details Black is their performance tier right? Up to OP if perf or noise is the priority.

He has a basic Barracuda and wants more capacity though. So that's why I suggested more capacity for less and performance will be like a hair between them.

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I should probably note that the N300 I listed appears to have no cache:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/4L3gXL/toshiba-n300-4-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-hdwg440uzsva
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There's another version of the 4TB N300 with 256MB of cache, but at that point I'm going from 160 AUD territory to 180 AUD territory:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/vJWzK8/toshiba-n300-4-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-hdwg440xzsta

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Should I go with this 3rd option instead?

 

 

 

49 minutes ago, ZetZet said:

He has a basic Barracuda and wants more capacity though. So that's why I suggested more capacity for less and performance will be like a hair between them.

I forgot to mention that the 2TB Barracuda I have is 7200RPM as well, so I'm aiming to get at least 7200RPM for my new HDD.

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2 minutes ago, FluorescentGreen5 said:

I forgot to mention that the 2TB Barracuda I have is 7200RPM as well, so I'm aiming to get at least 7200RPM for my new HDD.

You wouldn't notice the speed difference, but I guess you do you.

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1 hour ago, FluorescentGreen5 said:

I should probably note that the N300 I listed appears to have no cache:

 

There's another version of the 4TB N300 with 256MB of cache, but at that point I'm going from 160 AUD territory to 180 AUD territory:

https://storage.toshiba.com/docs/support-docs/Toshiba_N300_SalesSheet_English_07-27-21.pdf

 

According to above, it is the same drive but one is bulk pack, one is retail. Warranty may be affected if you go bulk.

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