Water, chiller?
1 hour ago, Cramig88 said:Hey all,
So I’m upgrading my exotic build, no need for specs. Right now she’s shoved in a O11 dynamic “XL” (really not, extra large…) with a bunch of radiators n so on
just got a TT View 71 case. Very familiar with it since I did a prior build for my daughter using it. It’s so large, I’m upset I’m using the O11.
Anywho, is there a product out there that cools water similar to a refrigerator? That is r-34 refrigerant along with a controller?
Just wondering out of curiosity. I have enough room (prob) or externally to run water lines.
I only ask cause my kids build has geez, uh, 3x 360 rads, 1x 140 and a d5 500ml pump/res - much larger case as I said. Mine, has a distro plate, 3x 360s and a 120. Regardless of how many fans I shove in there (2500rpm always on 100%) I peak around 57-61c. Overclocked Cpu and gpu, both with monoblocks.
don’t know if anybody’s ever done something like this before, toss in a condenser to chill water…. Aside from all the scientific junk like condensation (I’ll figure something out), wondering if anybody has pulled this off before
my other idea was to run lines outside the pc then simply into a gigantic water jug (more volume is better… not really) with a submersible water pump - but that would be like 10 gallons a minute, lot a bit overkill. Way too much water pressure
Other idea was to get a few radiators, a not so powerful pump, then shove the rads infront of an air conditioner…
anybody got suggestions? I’ve even considered having two seperate loops, submerge my water radiators into mineral oil, then loop the oil through a radiator or two. But then I figured I’d reach ambient (average, whatever it’s called) temperature anyways. Just cause oil don’t transfer heat so quick don’t mean in a few hours it won’t be as warm as the water. Besides, my thermals would be (presuming) the same as the mineral oil
so yeah, a condenser from a refrigerator is my thought on this one. U know, oh I want cold water. Shove a glass in the front of a fridge and bam it’s cold. I’d like something like that. I can figure out the details/construction/logistics later. Just wanna know if something like this exists
thanks!
Basically…. Just don’t.
You can throw more rads at it, but it likely won’t help. Your going to run into thermal transfer being your bottleneck. More rads and more fans won’t help unless as your suggesting, being the ambient temp of the water way down. But there is no point, it’s just a waste of electricity and will heat your room up/make your AC have to work harder to remove the hundreds of watts of heat crates by the chiller that is now dumping into your room.
The only reason exotic cooling is useful is for extreme OC, then phase change, TEC’s like Peltier junctions, or LN2 (most people just use LN2, cuz everything else is sub par….), but for day to day use it just doesn’t matter at all. Running a chip cooler won’t help anything except maybe allow for TOPS 100Mhz more which is meaningless. It will introduce potential for condensation which is how you kill hardware, it will increase electricity usage, it will dump a lot of extra waste heat into your room, and it will be way more complex, again, all for no real gain.
The no joke best idea is just duct an AC at the front of the PC. If you were going to use AC anyways, pump all of that cold air at the PC first. That way your not using any extra electricity since the AC would have been on anyways, and the temp in your room will end up the same but your getting nice concentrated cooling directly in the PC. Ugly… yes. Lol. But again, none of this is worth while.
For reference, I run a 420x45mm and a 280x60mm, D5, and a 10700k @5.2 and 2080 @2050MHz and my GPU is usually 50c in game, and CPU is low to mid 60’s. More rads likely wouldn’t help much as your experiencing. The main reason to water cool is for the silence. My fans top out at 900 rpm, 1100 in the summer when my room is ~78-80f and I don’t want to use AC lol.
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