Is the NZXT sale worth getting a prebuilt PC?

[noonie94]

CPU: It has a intel core i5 10400F

GPU: Geforce RTX 3050

Ram: 3200 MHz 8 GB (1x 8 GB)

SSD: NVMe M.2 SSD 500 GB

it's on sale for $799, usual price is $1,199.99

 

to me it looks good except the 1 stick of ram

[Bombastinator]

The prebuilt thing was about prebuilt companies being the only place one could get graphics cards.  This is no longer the case.

[dizmo]

The 3050 is a pretty trash tier card. The CPU is old. This looks like they're just clearing out old stock. I wouldn't.

[Bombastinator]

I would say @dizmo is 99% correct and may be 100%. Keep in mind that you’ll have to buy more memory anyway. So it’s not really $800+tax.  I don’t know if it’s a good deal or not.  The cpu is old, but is still a bang/buck leader.  Things a prebuilt tends to cheap out on:  motherboard, memory, case, and PSU.  So if you buy it you will have to fix at least one of these things.  Possibly all of them.

[noonie94]

59 minutes ago, dizmo said:

The 3050 is a pretty trash tier card. The CPU is old. This looks like they're just clearing out old stock. I wouldn't.

Do you have a recommendation of where I should buy a prebuilt gaming PC for under $900? I would build one myself, but I feel like lower end newer GPU is important  (I could be wrong)

[dizmo]

4 minutes ago, noonie94 said:

Do you have a recommendation of where I should buy a prebuilt gaming PC for under $900? I would build one myself, but I feel like lower end newer GPU is important  (I could be wrong)

What do you mean by lower end newer GPU is important? You can buy GPUs now, you don't have to go through a prebuilt company.

 

[Bombastinator]

If you can handle $67 over budget there is this. There’s a lot more to the video card, and it’s still a new design. It’s Still maybe less than you would have paid total to get a functioning amount of memory into the thing.  Case isn’t great, but this thing doesn’t produce a ton of heat either, and it’s cheap.

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TZDfFg

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B660M DS3H DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($57.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($22.79 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Speedster SWFT 210 Core Video Card  ($349.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Thermaltake Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ EVGA) 
Total: $867.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-13 01:37 EDT-0400

[LogicalDrm]

-> Moved to Laptops and Pre-Built Systems

 

Please mind where you are posting.

[noonie94]

15 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

If you can handle $67 over budget there is this. There’s a lot more to the video card, and it’s still a new design. It’s Still maybe less than you would have paid total to get a functioning amount of memory into the thing.  Case isn’t great, but this thing doesn’t produce a ton of heat either, and it’s cheap.

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TZDfFg

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B660M DS3H DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($57.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($22.79 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Speedster SWFT 210 Core Video Card  ($349.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Thermaltake Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ EVGA) 
Total: $867.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-13 01:37 EDT-0400

Thanks for the help! Is the XFX Radeon RX 6650 on the same level as the 2060 GeForce RTX 2060? or is it better? Asking because of course people are biased towards the 2060.

[jaslion]

On 7/13/2022 at 3:11 AM, noonie94 said:

CPU: It has a intel core i5 10400F

GPU: Geforce RTX 3050

Ram: 3200 MHz 8 GB (1x 8 GB)

SSD: NVMe M.2 SSD 500 GB

it's on sale for $799, usual price is $1,199.99

 

to me it looks good except the 1 stick of ram

So basically this is an old stock computer. You can find them not on sale for the same price. This one does have the big issue of having a single stick of ram which is severly going to worsen performance. That and its only 8gb

 

Other than that the cpu is quite old. Not bad but just old on a dead platform.

 

Then there is the low end rtc 3050 which is good enough now for 1080p medium gaming but I dont give it more than a couple years before its not going to be a 1080p card anymore.

 

This is probably coupled with a stock cooler and their nzxt h510 hotbox of a case.

 

So all that togheter a pretty meh system for the money with a big issue.

[jaslion]

9 hours ago, noonie94 said:

Thanks for the help! Is the XFX Radeon RX 6650 on the same level as the 2060 GeForce RTX 2060? or is it better? Asking because of course people are biased towards the 2060.

Its better

[Bombastinator]

2 hours ago, jaslion said:

Its better

It’s even better than a 3060

[noonie94]

On 7/14/2022 at 4:43 AM, Bombastinator said:

It’s even better than a 3060

so when I go to buy every thing today, the processor went up and is now $177, do you think that is a good purchase? I can get $10 off but idk if that makes a difference 

[Bombastinator]

If the 12400f is now the same price as a 5600 it may be better to do an AMD system instead.  The advantage of the 12400f was bang/buck.  When the buck goes up it becomes questionable.  An AMD system would use a 5600 and a b450 or b550 motherboard instead of the intel stuff but would be otherwise identical.  I learned yesterday that some manufacturers are limiting ram speed on some ddr4 boards to 16gb though and I’m not sure which ones.  It seems that on some boards you can only use memory faster than 2666 if you have 16gb or less which is potentially a big big problem. 

[noonie94]

17 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

If the 12400f is now the same price as a 5600 it may be better to do an AMD system instead.  The advantage of the 12400f was bang/buck.  When the buck goes up it becomes questionable.  An AMD system would use a 5600 and a b450 or b550 motherboard instead of the intel stuff but would be otherwise identical.  I learned yesterday that some manufacturers are limiting ram speed on some ddr4 boards to 16gb though and I’m not sure which ones.  It seems that on some boards you can only use memory faster than 2666 if you have 16gb or less which is potentially a big big problem. 

Thank you! How can you tell if a motherboard has wifi? I've been going to the manufacture website, and some of them aren't lisited

[Bombastinator]

7 minutes ago, noonie94 said:

Thank you! How can you tell if a motherboard has wifi? I've been going to the manufacture website, and some of them aren't lisited

Usually if a motherboard has wifi it will be prominently mentioned.  There are two ways to do wifi I know of.  One is to solder stuff to the motherboard, the other is an nvme e key with a wifi card in it.  Sometimes the only difference between a wifi and non-wifi model is whether the e key nvme is populated or not.  This means that “non-wifi” motherboards that have an nvme e-key slot can be turned into wifi motherboards simply by adding the appropriate card.  Just about any motherboard can do pcie wifi though.

Edited July 18, 2022 by Bombastinator