Official Blender YouTube channel struggles with chat bots live during EP:198 (Re: WAN Show July 1, 2022 Topic #2)

[tealghost]

Summary

Pablo Vazquez, host of Blender.org 's "Blender Today", struggles with chat bots while live on air during the episode on Monday July 4, 2022.

At the 11:56 minute marker during EP 198, Pablo calls out YouTube for the need for much better automatic moderation of inappropriate content.

 

Quotes

Quote

"How can YouTube not automatically ban people that have... like... so obvious yelling 'sex' on their names? Youtube you need to work on that."      -   Pablo Vazquez

 

My thoughts

In response to the July 1, 2022 #WANSHOW @LinusTech Topic #2 regarding YouTube moderation tools...

LTT is NOT ALONE when it comes to the need for YouTube to fix, update, and build better tools for content creators.

Echoing Linus's remarks, these problems are not mere complaints from large channels but are instead a more serious and widespread problem across the platform.

It should not require being a big enough channel to have a chat with a channel manager in order to be able to report these issues.

Fixing these issues would help creators of channels of all sizes and make the platform more accessible for users.

Ignoring these problems is not an acceptable solution.

Features like automatic ban of illicit/explicit chats should be available for all creators as part of the standard moderation toolset. 

 

Sources

 

23 second clip : https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxDtXJKJyOCtXxISEjtjQ-qTJdpuRczrXW

 

full episode : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDI8fE2Keis

 

[Spotty]

> Moved to General Discussion. It's worth discussing but a clip of bots on Youtube is not "Tech News". This is a pretty widespread and well known issue that has been going on for quite some time.

[Heliian]

YouTube is 100% complicit in the bot accounts.  Bot accounts make numbers, numbers are good.  If there was no bots, they'd lose nearly a quarter of their users.  I'm really getting annoyed with the investment scam bots that open a comment string.  It's getting tedious reporting a dozen at a time. 

[Middcore]

1 minute ago, Heliian said:

YouTube is 100% complicit in the bot accounts.  Bot accounts make numbers, numbers are good. 

 

Same reason Twitter has never cracked down on its hordes of obvious bots. When your business model depends on touting the size of your "user" base to advertisers, it's not in your interest to make that figure go down. 

[LAwLz]

12 hours ago, Heliian said:

YouTube is 100% complicit in the bot accounts.  Bot accounts make numbers, numbers are good.  If there was no bots, they'd lose nearly a quarter of their users.  I'm really getting annoyed with the investment scam bots that open a comment string.  It's getting tedious reporting a dozen at a time. 

How do you know YouTube is complicit? YouTube already has pretty good spam detection and it wasn't a big problem until fairly recently. 

 

The problem is that when you are as big as YouTube, even a 99.9% effective solution will look bad because that last 0.01% results in tens of thousands of spam being let through. 

But if you design a filter that blocks slightly too much, you might end up blocking millions of genuine comments. 

 

 

How do you and OP suggest, on a technical level, that YouTube fixes this issue? Since you are so determined that YouTube are complicit, I assume you know of a solution already.