Posted June 30, 2022 Hello there. In the near future I will have to or rather be forced to build quite a few workstations based on Ryzen Threadripper PRO 39**WX ASUS Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE Noctua NH-U14S-TR4-SP3 2 fans NVIDIA RTX A6000 4 x 3.5" HDD Whatewer 1000+W power supply and lot of fans I'm hesitant about choosing a case. WRX80E is an extra E-ATX motherboard 30.98 cm × 33.02 cm (12.2" x 13"), so could you guys give me extra advice what to use for it? I don't care about looks and I don't mind tight fit as long the build gives me performance, airflow and serviceability. I'd rather prefer cases with a steel side panel. If possible nothing too expensive since we already blew up our budget. I wonder if I can get away with Fractal Design DEFINE XL R2 or something even cheaper =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ai Kyuu said: In the near future I will have to or rather be forced to build You have a safe word? 10 minutes ago, Ai Kyuu said: I wonder if I can get away with Fractal Design DEFINE XL R2 or something even cheaper The Define series is the first thing that came to mind before I read this part. The Meshify 2 is a bit cheaper. BabyBlu (Primary): CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3GHz, 5.0GHz all-core, delidded Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000MHz 16-18-18-34 GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070MHz core, 8000MHz mem Case: Phanteks Evolv X Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB, 3x ADATASU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB PSU: Corsair HX1000i Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 144Hz Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front) Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown) Mouse: MasterMouse MM710 Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB OS: Windows 10 Pro Roxanne (Wife Build): CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ up to 5.0GHz, 4.8Ghz all-core, relidded w/ LM Motherboard: Asus Z97A RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24 GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 w/ LM Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, w/ Custom Side-Panel Window Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 2TB NVME PSU: Corsair AX760 Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White) Mouse: Glorious Model O- Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7 OS: Windows 10 Pro BigBox (HTPC): CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro AX RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4-3600 @ 3600MHz 14-14-14-28 GPU: MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X Plus OC, de-shrouded, LM TIM, replaced mem therm pads Case: Fractal Design Node 202 Storage: SP A80 1TB, WD Black SN770 2TB PSU: Corsair SF600 Gold w/ NF-A9x14 Display: Samsung QN90A 65" (QLED, 4K, 120Hz, HDR, VRR) Cooling: Thermalright AXP-100 Copper w/ NF-A12x15 Keyboard/Mouse: Rii i4 Controllers: 4X Xbox One & 2X N64 (with USB) Sound: Denon AVR S760H with 5.1.2 Atmos setup. OS: Windows 10 Pro Harmonic (NAS/Game/Plex/Other Server): CPU: Intel Core i7 6700 Motherboard: ASRock FATAL1TY H270M RAM: 64GB DDR4-2133 GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530 Case: Fractal Design Define 7 HDD: 3X Seagate Exos X16 14TB in RAID 5 SSD: Inland Premium 512GB NVME, Sabrent 1TB NVME Optical: BDXL WH14NS40 flashed to WH16NS60 PSU: Corsair CX450 Display: None Cooling: Noctua NH-U14S Keyboard/Mouse: None OS: Windows 10 Pro NAS: Synology DS216J 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 30, 2022 Author 3 minutes ago, Hairless Monkey Boy said: The Meshify 2 is a bit cheaper. The specs says "Motherboard compatibility E-ATX (max 285 mm)" which is not my case presumably. Even after reading the manual I can't really tell if there's enough space and standoffs to fit the MB and (at least) 4 HDD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 30, 2022 What's the use case? What's the budget? Why isn't the customer/client/business buying prebuilt workstations that come with warranties? I sold my soul for ProSupport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Needfuldoer said: What's the use case? What's the budget? Why isn't the customer/client/business buying prebuilt workstations that come with warranties? part built PCs have better overall warranties than any OEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 1, 2022 6 hours ago, tkitch said: part built PCs have better overall warranties than any OEM. They're longer, but you do all the labor yourself and have to do without the PC for however long it takes to turn around an RMA. There's a reason you will find few, if any, white box PCs in large offices. (Especially in the server room, you're you'll find rebranded Dell, HP, and Supermicro chassis, not a Norco case with an Asus motherboard and Corsair power supply. And if there is a whitebox, it was built by a service provider as their appliance for running their software.) Dell and HP will sell you commercial support contracts, where if you find a problem with the PC they'll send a tech on-site with the parts to fix it next business day (or sooner). Business support is a whole other animal from the warranty you get with a plastic consumer machine from Best Buy. I sold my soul for ProSupport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 1, 2022 I don’t know if I’m missing some out of left field context, but spending $200k on hardware without a commercial onsite service contract from an OEM sounds absolutely insane to me. MacBook Pro 16 - i9-9980HK - Radeon Pro 5500m 8GB - 32GB DDR4 - 2TB NVME iPhone 12 Mini / Sony WH-1000XM4 / Bose Companion 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 1, 2022 17 hours ago, Ai Kyuu said: The specs says "Motherboard compatibility E-ATX (max 285 mm)" which is not my case presumably. Even after reading the manual I can't really tell if there's enough space and standoffs to fit the MB and (at least) 4 HDD's. Reminds me of the Threadripper Quad GPU builds I did a few years back. We used Thermaltake View37's which layout worked quite well to achieve essentially a wind tunnel. I used a ATX board, but as you can see in the picture there is quite some horizontal real-estate, so I think your motherboard should fit too. Recent builds: Meshify C (Zero Tolerance!) & View 37 (Breathable Quad 2080Ti + 2990WX) Best documented PC coolants Older Builds Spoiler Full-custom loop builds: Meshify C (Full custom loop SLI), Ncase M1(8700K + 1080Ti Full custom loop) Obsidian 900D (1950X + Quad 1080Ti) & Fractal Define C (1080 in SLI) Air-cooled builds Air 740D (1920X + Quad 980Ti) & Fractal Define C (Version Air!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Needfuldoer said: They're longer, but you do all the labor yourself and have to do without the PC for however long it takes to turn around an RMA. There's a reason you will find few, if any, white box PCs in large offices. (Especially in the server room, you're you'll find rebranded Dell, HP, and Supermicro chassis, not a Norco case with an Asus motherboard and Corsair power supply. And if there is a whitebox, it was built by a service provider as their appliance for running their software.) Dell and HP will sell you commercial support contracts, where if you find a problem with the PC they'll send a tech on-site with the parts to fix it next business day (or sooner). Business support is a whole other animal from the warranty you get with a plastic consumer machine from Best Buy. Depends on the use case. If I need shitty desktop PCs for people to run Office and a few other low-intensity apps? Hells yeah, I'm going to buy a stupid HP / Dell / Other OEM Box. (Currently I'm a big fan of the MSI DP-20Z, it's a pretty awesome little box.) If I need a server? Uhhh, yeah, I'm 110% buying a server, unless there's a very specific reason to consider building one. (Even then, it'd be an actual server build, not an ATX Board in a case.) If I need some absurdly high-end workstations? That's probably going to be built by me. If we're talking about a thousand dollar CPU and an even more expensive GPU? Yeah, I'd want that to be something that I can fix on my own, unless I need to order in bulk. 20 Computers is not bulk, that's well under a week's work to get those together and ready to image and deploy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 1, 2022 Author 19 hours ago, Needfuldoer said: Why isn't the customer/client/business buying prebuilt workstations that come with warranties? 7 hours ago, Roswell said: I don’t know if I’m missing some out of left field context, but spending $200k on hardware without a commercial onsite service contract from an OEM sounds absolutely insane to me. Initially this was supposed to be Lenovo P620 but they're not available anymore due to the recent events. So no service contracts whatsoever, just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 1, 2022 Are these going in a data center type environment or to individual users? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2022 12 hours ago, For Science! said: Reminds me of the Threadripper Quad GPU builds I did a few years back. We used Thermaltake View37's which layout worked quite well to achieve essentially a wind tunnel. I used a ATX board, but as you can see in the picture there is quite some horizontal real-estate, so I think your motherboard should fit too. i have so many questions about thows but ill sum it up I have dyslexia plz be kind to me. dont like my post dont read it or respond thx also i edit post alot because you no why... Thrasher_565 hub links build logs Corsair Lian Li Bykski Barrow thermaltake nzxt aquacomputer 5v argb pin out guide + argb info 5v device to 12v mb header Odds and Sods Argb Rgb Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2022 On 6/30/2022 at 11:27 AM, Ai Kyuu said: Hello there. In the near future I will have to or rather be forced to build quite a few workstations based on Ryzen Threadripper PRO 39**WX ASUS Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE Noctua NH-U14S-TR4-SP3 2 fans NVIDIA RTX A6000 4 x 3.5" HDD Whatewer 1000+W power supply and lot of fans I'm hesitant about choosing a case. WRX80E is an extra E-ATX motherboard 30.98 cm × 33.02 cm (12.2" x 13"), so could you guys give me extra advice what to use for it? I don't care about looks and I don't mind tight fit as long the build gives me performance, airflow and serviceability. I'd rather prefer cases with a steel side panel. If possible nothing too expensive since we already blew up our budget. I wonder if I can get away with Fractal Design DEFINE XL R2 or something even cheaper https://www.amazon.ca/Phanteks-Enthoo-PH-ES620PC_BK01-Full-Tower/dp/B0894H2JZ4/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1110OH1H50D65&keywords=phanteks+Enthoo+Pro+2&qid=1656770413&sprefix=phanteks+enthoo+pro+2%2Caps%2C124&sr=8-2 dont no why the still case is more then the tg one atm... https://www.amazon.ca/Phanteks-Enthoo-Full-Tower-High-Performance/dp/B0894J31QS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1110OH1H50D65&keywords=phanteks+Enthoo+Pro+2&qid=1656770462&sprefix=phanteks+enthoo+pro+2%2Caps%2C124&sr=8-1 I have dyslexia plz be kind to me. dont like my post dont read it or respond thx also i edit post alot because you no why... Thrasher_565 hub links build logs Corsair Lian Li Bykski Barrow thermaltake nzxt aquacomputer 5v argb pin out guide + argb info 5v device to 12v mb header Odds and Sods Argb Rgb Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 3, 2022 Author Thanks for your suggestion guys. But sadly neither Phanteks nor Thermaltake case are available in the quantity I needed. I should've just done this first but I did a quick test in Photoshop and confirmed both Define XL R2 and Meshify 2XL have all the mounting points for the motherboard. Define XL R2 looks even better as it kinda leaves some space for cable routing. Fractal suppourt also confirmed things for me. On 7/1/2022 at 11:19 PM, Bitter said: Are these going in a data center type environment or to individual users? The latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 3, 2022 Well scratch my idea of just rackmount everything or shelves with open benches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 4, 2022 7 hours ago, Ai Kyuu said: Thanks for your suggestion guys. But sadly neither Phanteks nor Thermaltake case are available in the quantity I needed. I should've just done this first but I did a quick test in Photoshop and confirmed both Define XL R2 and Meshify 2XL have all the mounting points for the motherboard. Define XL R2 looks even better as it kinda leaves some space for cable routing. Fractal suppourt also confirmed things for me. The latter. the Define XL R2 is crap for air flow... I have dyslexia plz be kind to me. dont like my post dont read it or respond thx also i edit post alot because you no why... Thrasher_565 hub links build logs Corsair Lian Li Bykski Barrow thermaltake nzxt aquacomputer 5v argb pin out guide + argb info 5v device to 12v mb header Odds and Sods Argb Rgb Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 4, 2022 19 hours ago, Ai Kyuu said: Thanks for your suggestion guys. But sadly neither Phanteks nor Thermaltake case are available in the quantity I needed. I should've just done this first but I did a quick test in Photoshop and confirmed both Define XL R2 and Meshify 2XL have all the mounting points for the motherboard. Define XL R2 looks even better as it kinda leaves some space for cable routing. Fractal suppourt also confirmed things for me. The latter. Issue is that the define xl r2 is meant for silence and MASSIVELY sacrifices airflow. Not somethjng you want for a system of this class. 100% get the meshify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 7, 2022 Can I recommend the Corsair 750d airflow edition? It's what I have my 3960x workstation in, and it's airflow keeps my system idling around 43c. All air, no water-cooling. 5.25 bays if you want, and comes with 6 3.25 bays that I ended up removing as I use all m.2 and a nas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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