Upgrading my potato PC and need help :D

[Buckyy]

Budget (including currency):

Roughly £3,000

 

Country:

United Kingdom

 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:

Gaming, Music Production, Video Editing, Game Development, VR!

 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Motherboard: MSI B460M PRO (MS-7C88)

CPU: Intel Core i3-10100F CPU @ 3.60GHz, 3601MHz, 4 Cores, 8 Logical Processors

RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB DDR4 2666 MHz C16 (CMK16GX4M2A2666C16W)

Graphics Card: XFX AMD Radeon RX 480

OS: Windows 11

Monitors: Some MSI monitor can't remember the make but is runs at 60Hz / Lenovo Monitor again can't remember the type but its a 75Hz monitor.

Was looking at 3070Ti's but I have no idea which one is better, along with all other parts of a computer as there are so many brands so thought I would ask some peoples professional opinions.

 

It does not need to be exactly £3,000 I can go a little bit over if needed, would just like to have it all in a list so I can sum it all up and buy it asap.

 

Thank you in advanced,

Josh

Edited June 29, 2022 by Buckyy

[Juliasmatius]

new gpu defenedly!

[Buckyy]

2 minutes ago, Juliasmatius said:

new gpu defenedly!

I want to add that it is insane how well this GPU performs on most new AAA titles. Just want to be able to play games in VR without the frame drops.

[Juliasmatius]

2 minutes ago, Buckyy said:

I want to add that it is insane how well this GPU performs on most new AAA titles. Just want to be able to play games in VR without the frame drops.

a 6 year old gpu? well you shoudnt upgrafe ram 32gb good for a lotnof stuff

[tkitch]

If you're trying to keep the price down:  a 10700k or 11700k + new cooler and a new GPU would cover it (likely well under 1K as well.)

(I'm assuming you're running on a SSD, add one if you're not.)

 

Otherwise, you should just get a brand new rig entirely.  

[Buckyy]

7 minutes ago, tkitch said:

If you're trying to keep the price down:  a 10700k or 11700k + new cooler and a new GPU would cover it (likely well under 1K as well.)

(I'm assuming you're running on a SSD, add one if you're not.)

 

Otherwise, you should just get a brand new rig entirely.  

I am running a Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe. I am not looking to go as low as I can on budget, I wanting to get all new parts if possible within my budget. New Motherboard (Which has more than 2 Sata connectors!!! ), CPU, GPU, Silent fans, etc along with a new Case

[tkitch]

Then at 3 grand?  You could easily get brand new everything.

 

New board, 12700K, 32GB DDR5, 3070TI (or maybe 3080), etc.  

[Buckyy]

1 minute ago, tkitch said:

Then at 3 grand?  You could easily get brand new everything.

 

New board, 12700K, 32GB DDR5, 3070TI (or maybe 3080), etc.  

Sounds good, can you possibly be more specific on the specifications? I am outdated with all the latest tech

[Devryd]

If you dont need to buy right now, maybe wait until september. AMD is releasing AM5 then. If it is better than alder lake, you could that instead or maybe Intel will drop prices. 

[Buckyy]

10 minutes ago, Devryd said:

If you dont need to buy right now, maybe wait until september. AMD is releasing AM5 then. If it is better than alder lake, you could that instead or maybe Intel will drop prices. 

Okay I will most likely wait for that then, thank you for the insight!

Can anyone tell me which kind of motherboard would be recommended to buy for a 12700K and 3070TI? And any case and fan recommendations

[venomtail]

6 minutes ago, Devryd said:

If you dont need to buy right now, maybe wait until september. AMD is releasing AM5 then. If it is better than alder lake, you could that instead or maybe Intel will drop prices. 

That is if early adopters tax isn't in the range of a mortgage and the hype doesn't make everything be out of stock for 3+ months after release...

On the build, I don't see a reason spending any more than this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  (£252.29 @ Technextday) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 WH 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£59.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B660 GAMING X DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£145.22 @ Technextday) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£248.18 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Gigabyte AORUS Gen4 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£152.56 @ Newegg UK) 
Storage: Kingston NV1 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£144.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Vision OC Video Card  (£1089.89 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (£79.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 12 850 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£183.02 @ Technextday) 
Case Fan: Noctua A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan  (£31.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case Fan: Noctua A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan  (£31.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case Fan: Noctua A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan  (£31.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case Fan: Noctua A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan  (£31.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case Fan: Noctua A12x15 PWM chromax.black.swap 55.44 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£21.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £2504.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-29 15:17 BST+0100

[Omar.B]

11 minutes ago, Buckyy said:

Okay I will most likely wait for that then, thank you for the insight!

Can anyone tell me which kind of motherboard would be recommended to buy for a 12700K and 3070TI? And any case and fan recommendations

Are you going to overclock? If not you don't need a K CPU, just take an F CPU like the I7 12700F with a good b660 motherboard like the TUF or strix or tomahawk...etc, for the case its just a personal preference you can just pick something with good airflow and you like it.

[Devryd]

For case fans. Arctic is pretty good on the cheap, if you want to go high end, Noctua is one of the best. They are going to release a new 140mm fan this year and their 120mm fans are the best afaik

[bal723]

1 hour ago, Buckyy said:

Budget (including currency):

Roughly £3,000

 

Country:

United Kingdom

 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:

Gaming, Music Production, Video Editing, Game Development, VR!

 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Motherboard: MSI B460M PRO (MS-7C88)

CPU: Intel Core i3-10100F CPU @ 3.60GHz, 3601MHz, 4 Cores, 8 Logical Processors

RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB DDR4 2666 MHz C16 (CMK16GX4M2A2666C16W)

Graphics Card: XFX AMD Radeon RX 480

OS: Windows 11

Monitors: Some MSI monitor can't remember the make but is runs at 60Hz / Lenovo Monitor again can't remember the type but its a 75Hz monitor.

Was looking at 3070Ti's but I have no idea which one is better, along with all other parts of a computer as there are so many brands so thought I would ask some peoples professional opinions.

 

It does not need to be exactly £3,000 I can go a little bit over if needed, would just like to have it all in a list so I can sum it all up and buy it asap.

 

Thank you in advanced,

Josh

you can get a better cpu like 10600k

and pair it with rtx 2070 or 2070 super because if you go for rtx 30 series ya gotta lose some performance because of pcie 3.0 , so better end up with 20 series

[Devryd]

as long as its not a 3080 ti or 3090, PCIe 3.0 shouldnt make a difference

[bal723]

1 hour ago, Buckyy said:

Budget (including currency):

Roughly £3,000

 

Country:

United Kingdom

 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:

Gaming, Music Production, Video Editing, Game Development, VR!

 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Motherboard: MSI B460M PRO (MS-7C88)

CPU: Intel Core i3-10100F CPU @ 3.60GHz, 3601MHz, 4 Cores, 8 Logical Processors

RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB DDR4 2666 MHz C16 (CMK16GX4M2A2666C16W)

Graphics Card: XFX AMD Radeon RX 480

OS: Windows 11

Monitors: Some MSI monitor can't remember the make but is runs at 60Hz / Lenovo Monitor again can't remember the type but its a 75Hz monitor.

Was looking at 3070Ti's but I have no idea which one is better, along with all other parts of a computer as there are so many brands so thought I would ask some peoples professional opinions.

 

It does not need to be exactly £3,000 I can go a little bit over if needed, would just like to have it all in a list so I can sum it all up and buy it asap.

 

Thank you in advanced,

Josh

also ur PC isn't potato, its very good ones

[bal723]

1 minute ago, Devryd said:

as long as its not a 3080 ti or 3090, PCIe 3.0 shouldnt make a difference

it should!

[Buckyy]

5 minutes ago, bal723 said:

also ur PC isn't potato, its very good ones

Yes it is a great little machine for its age. I would like to go high end however so I can develop AAA quality games with my mates.

How much would it be for a high-end build and what are the specifications?

[Guest]

Something like this would leave you with money for upgrades in the future. Added a 1440p monitor as it is a waste to spend this much to game on a 60Hz/75Hz screen.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£315.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£55.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£129.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: Klevv BOLT X 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£100.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£221.23 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: KFA2 GeForce RTX 3080 10GB LHR 10 GB SG (1-Click OC) Video Card  (£699.99 @ Technextday) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (£80.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£88.48 @ Box Limited) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£4.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£4.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£4.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  (£362.54 @ Senetic) 
Total: £2069.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-29 16:17 BST+0100

[Guest]

1 hour ago, venomtail said:

That is if early adopters tax isn't in the range of a mortgage and the hype doesn't make everything be out of stock for 3+ months after release...

On the build, I don't see a reason spending any more than this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  (£252.29 @ Technextday) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 WH 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£59.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B660 GAMING X DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£145.22 @ Technextday) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£248.18 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Gigabyte AORUS Gen4 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£152.56 @ Newegg UK) 
Storage: Kingston NV1 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£144.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Vision OC Video Card  (£1089.89 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (£79.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 12 850 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£183.02 @ Technextday) 
Case Fan: Noctua A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan  (£31.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case Fan: Noctua A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan  (£31.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case Fan: Noctua A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan  (£31.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case Fan: Noctua A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan  (£31.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case Fan: Noctua A12x15 PWM chromax.black.swap 55.44 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£21.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £2504.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-29 15:17 BST+0100

Nearly £150 on fans ? That is a waste. 

 

He probably doesn't need 64GB Ram. 

 

That Gen 4 1TB SSD is overpriced at £152 considering the WD Black SN850 2TB is only £70ish more for double the capacity. The Kingston NV1 isn't that good either.

 

The psu is also expensive. A solid Gold unit is half the price. 

[Buckyy]

1 minute ago, lee32uk said:

Something like this would leave you with money for upgrades in the future. Added a 1440p monitor as it is a waste to spend this much to game on a 60Hz/75Hz screen.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£315.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£55.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£129.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: Klevv BOLT X 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£100.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£221.23 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: KFA2 GeForce RTX 3080 10GB LHR 10 GB SG (1-Click OC) Video Card  (£699.99 @ Technextday) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (£80.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£88.48 @ Box Limited) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£4.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£4.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£4.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  (£362.54 @ Senetic) 
Total: £2069.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-29 16:17 BST+0100

Thank you for the list lee32uk I will take that into account. I am just looking to go high end as possible with a i9 processor if that's possible within my budget

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Buckyy said:

Thank you for the list lee32uk I will take that into account. I am just looking to go high end as possible with a i9 processor if that's possible within my budget

I don't think the i9 is worth the extra cash, but you can look at reviews and decide for yourself.

[Buckyy]

9 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

I don't think the i9 is worth the extra cash, but you can look at reviews and decide for yourself.

Okay no worries I will take your word for it!

Thank you everyone for the suggestions

[venomtail]

3 hours ago, lee32uk said:

Nearly £150 on fans ? That is a waste. 

 

He probably doesn't need 64GB Ram. 

 

That Gen 4 1TB SSD is overpriced at £152 considering the WD Black SN850 2TB is only £70ish more for double the capacity. The Kingston NV1 isn't that good either.

 

The psu is also expensive. A solid Gold unit is half the price. 

You do you. You get what you pay for. I trust Noctua to be quiet and push good air through.

My experience in games development amount of RAM is a very important factor. I've had my PC crash multiple times in Unity and UE4 when building game versions. I'd say 32GB is the bare minimum you need. If you're spending over £2k, 64GB increase will be like a drop in the ocean with the budget.

 

That 1TB SSD has 2gb of cache. Depending on what his workload is, he should have far supperior constant write speeds allowing him to keep up with productivity.

 

A gold PSU won't go wrong with anything under of a £2k system, but if I'm spending that much I might as well get a better PSU. Budget allows for it + I've picked an expensive brand. Corsair probs has a far cheaper Titanium.

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, venomtail said:

You do you. You get what you pay for. I trust Noctua to be quiet and push good air through.

You are spending more on fans than the actual case. Sorry but that is the wrong way to do it. Also Noctua = overpriced. Yes they are good, but they are not the only good fans you can buy.

13 minutes ago, venomtail said:

My experience in games development amount of RAM is a very important factor. I've had my PC crash multiple times in Unity and UE4 when building game versions. I'd say 32GB is the bare minimum you need. If you're spending over £2k, 64GB increase will be like a drop in the ocean with the budget.

If he needs 64GB then that is his call. 

 

13 minutes ago, venomtail said:

That 1TB SSD has 2gb of cache. Depending on what his workload is, he should have far supperior constant write speeds allowing him to keep up with productivity.

You are missing the point. The WD Black SN850 is £70 more for 2TB. The 1TB version is still cheaper than the Gigabyte. 

13 minutes ago, venomtail said:

 

A gold PSU won't go wrong with anything under of a £2k system, but if I'm spending that much I might as well get a better PSU. Budget allows for it + I've picked an expensive brand. Corsair probs has a far cheaper Titanium.

The Corsair RM is Tier 1 same as the BeQuiet.