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Building a PC, I need help of any more performance to squeeze out

Budget (including currency): £600 however I don't mind going a bit above or below

Country: England

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: School work, Minecraft, Genshin impact, Fortnight and fall guys

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I just need a PC and I have made a specs list. I am planning to wait for a year after buying this and save up for a RTX 40 series. I will be buying these in ~August

 

Specs List:

 

MSI Gaming Edge B550 
Ryzen 5 5600g
GSKILL Trident 32gb ram
Samsung 980 1tb M.2 SSD
Gigabyte 750w 80+Gold Modular PSU
MSI MAG FORGE 1000R

 

Thanks anyone that helps :D

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Look again in August. Most likely gpu prices will drop and youll get a 6600 in a 600£ pc.

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Unless you're planning on a dedicated GPU later, the 750W is overkill. And I would recommend Crucial Ballistix for Ryzen, they seem to like it better than others. Others here would recommend Samsung B-die. But I would avoid Corsair RAM at all costs with a Ryzen. They don't seem to like it.

 

Also, be aware that the 5600G has similar core performance to a 3600 and will likely have a hard time keeping up with an RTX4000. You might want to consider a 5600 or 5600X or better and one of the cheaper entry-level GPUs like a GTX1650 or something. You'll get much better performance in the long run, probably for the same money if you're sharp.

 

You don't mention a specific budget, and simple USD to EURO / GBP is pointless, so this is a good bang-for-the-buck starter build that establishes a nice platform for the intended future video upgrades for about $1200 USD. You could go with a 5600 for a bit less, but I think it might struggle with an RTX4000 later. In fact, if you can swing it, I would recommend a 5900X, especially if you like to run other things in the background.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/An0maly1976/saved/3bNWcf

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I would get something with a 12400 or 5600 now and a cheap GPU like an RX 6400 or 1650. The 5600G isn't fast, and it doesn't support PCIe 4.0 which may be a problem for next gen GPUs.

 

Also don't get that PSU and SSD, they're some of the worst parts you can get. The PSU explodes, and the SSD has some awful price/performance. I will add a list below later with a good PSU and SSD.

 

Edit: this is what I would get now until you have a new GPU. I chose the 6500 XT over the 6400 since it's cheaper.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£171.50 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£63.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£52.96 @ Box Limited) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£72.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 6500 XT 4 GB MECH 2X OC Video Card  (£153.48 @ Ebuyer) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (£59.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£88.48 @ Box Limited) 
Total: £663.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Edited by Pixelfie
1) Added parts list 2) Changed RAM
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On 6/28/2022 at 10:21 PM, An0maly_76 said:

Unless you're planning on a dedicated GPU later, the 750W is overkill. And I would recommend Crucial Ballistix for Ryzen, they seem to like it better than others. Others here would recommend Samsung B-die. But I would avoid Corsair RAM at all costs with a Ryzen. They don't seem to like it.

 

Also, be aware that the 5600G has similar core performance to a 3600 and will likely have a hard time keeping up with an RTX4000. You might want to consider a 5600 or 5600X or better and one of the cheaper entry-level GPUs like a GTX1650 or something. You'll get much better performance in the long run, probably for the same money if you're sharp.

 

You don't mention a specific budget, and simple USD to EURO / GBP is pointless, so this is a good bang-for-the-buck starter build that establishes a nice platform for the intended future video upgrades for about $1200 USD. You could go with a 5600 for a bit less, but I think it might struggle with an RTX4000 later. In fact, if you can swing it, I would recommend a 5900X, especially if you like to run other things in the background.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/An0maly1976/saved/3bNWcf

i said 600 e but i cant afford that

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On 6/28/2022 at 10:28 PM, Pixelfie said:

I would get something with a 12400 or 5600 now and a cheap GPU like an RX 6400 or 1650. The 5600G isn't fast, and it doesn't support PCIe 4.0 which may be a problem for next gen GPUs.

 

Also don't get that PSU and SSD, they're some of the worst parts you can get. The PSU explodes, and the SSD has some awful price/performance. I will add a list below later with a good PSU and SSD.

 

Edit: this is what I would get now until you have a new GPU. I chose the 6500 XT over the 6400 since it's cheaper.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£171.50 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£63.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£52.96 @ Box Limited) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£72.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 6500 XT 4 GB MECH 2X OC Video Card  (£153.48 @ Ebuyer) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (£59.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£88.48 @ Box Limited) 
Total: £663.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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also a ATX case with a microATX motherboard?

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11 minutes ago, PhoenixOrigin said:

also a ATX case with a microATX motherboard?

Yes that works. MicroATX motherboards are cheaper, and the case was a good deal.

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On 6/28/2022 at 9:53 PM, PhoenixOrigin said:

save up for a RTX 40 series. I will be buying these in ~August

Don't bother building a PC to run on an APU and then get an GPU later. For the first few months only high end cards will come out, 90-70 spec. Budget options like 4060 you can only expect January at the earliest. Just get a full build now so you can enjoy the money you spent from the day you spent it.

 

12 minutes ago, PhoenixOrigin said:

I was thinking to up the budget to 1000 pounds. What could I get?

This should last you for ages and will give you plenty of frames to enjoy:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£163.49 @ Technextday) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black CPU Cooler  (£33.19 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-E DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£97.40 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£53.51 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Western Digital WDS100T3B0C 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£72.78 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB EAGLE Video Card  (£471.59 @ Newegg UK) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£39.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 CM 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£45.75 @ Technextday) 
Total: £977.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-01 15:11 BST+0100

 

15 minutes ago, PhoenixOrigin said:

You need a monitor or...? If yes I'll edit and add a new build with good monitor.

Desktop: Ryzen 7 5800X3D - Kraken X62 Rev 2 - STRIX X470-I - 3600MHz 32GB Kingston Fury - 250GB 970 Evo boot - 2x 500GB 860 Evo - 1TB P3 - 4TB HDD - RX6800 - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold - Manta - Silent Wings Pro 4's enjoyer

SetupZowie XL2740 27.0" 240hz - Roccat Burt Pro Corsair K70 LUX browns - PC38X - Mackie CR5X's

Current build on PCPartPicker

 

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55 minutes ago, PhoenixOrigin said:

I was thinking to up the budget to 1000 pounds. What could I get? I want to keep 32gb ram, a Corsair 4000D Airflow and a ryzen cpu. Thanks

 

Edit: I came up with https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ByDMwc

This would be better for a Ryzen cpu build.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£169.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.96 @ More Computers) 
Motherboard: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£109.95 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: Klevv KD48GU880-36A180U 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (£56.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital WDS100T3B0C 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£72.78 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 6600 8 GB MECH 2X Video Card  (£315.59 @ Newegg UK) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (£80.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: Corsair TX650M Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£70.61 @ Amazon UK) 
Monitor: MSI Optix G241 23.8" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  (£138.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Total: £1049.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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19 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

This would be better for a Ryzen cpu build.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£169.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.96 @ More Computers) 
Motherboard: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£109.95 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: Klevv KD48GU880-36A180U 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (£56.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital WDS100T3B0C 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£72.78 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 6600 8 GB MECH 2X Video Card  (£315.59 @ Newegg UK) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (£80.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: Corsair TX650M Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£70.61 @ Amazon UK) 
Monitor: MSI Optix G241 23.8" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  (£138.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Total: £1049.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-01 15:51 BST+0100

I like this one probably gonna use

 

1 hour ago, venomtail said:

Don't bother building a PC to run on an APU and then get an GPU later. For the first few months only high end cards will come out, 90-70 spec. Budget options like 4060 you can only expect January at the earliest. Just get a full build now so you can enjoy the money you spent from the day you spent it.

 

This should last you for ages and will give you plenty of frames to enjoy:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£163.49 @ Technextday) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black CPU Cooler  (£33.19 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-E DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£97.40 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£53.51 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Western Digital WDS100T3B0C 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£72.78 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB EAGLE Video Card  (£471.59 @ Newegg UK) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£39.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 CM 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£45.75 @ Technextday) 
Total: £977.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-01 15:11 BST+0100

 

You need a monitor or...? If yes I'll edit and add a new build with good monitor.

Yes do need a monitor e

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2 minutes ago, PhoenixOrigin said:

I like this one probably gonna use

 

Yes do need a monitor e

27'' 144hz 1080p Panel. Smaller storage and 6600XT. Could swap down to a 6600 and get instead 1TB storage:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£163.49 @ Technextday) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black CPU Cooler  (£33.19 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-E DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£97.40 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£56.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Western Digital WDS500G3B0C 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£43.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Fighter Video Card  (£389.89 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£39.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 CM 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£45.75 @ Technextday) 
Monitor: MSI Optix G271 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  (£153.99 @ Currys PC World Business) 
Total: £1024.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-01 16:16 BST+0100

Desktop: Ryzen 7 5800X3D - Kraken X62 Rev 2 - STRIX X470-I - 3600MHz 32GB Kingston Fury - 250GB 970 Evo boot - 2x 500GB 860 Evo - 1TB P3 - 4TB HDD - RX6800 - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold - Manta - Silent Wings Pro 4's enjoyer

SetupZowie XL2740 27.0" 240hz - Roccat Burt Pro Corsair K70 LUX browns - PC38X - Mackie CR5X's

Current build on PCPartPicker

 

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1 minute ago, venomtail said:

27'' 144hz 1080p Panel. Smaller storage and 6600XT. Could swap down to a 6600 and get instead 1TB storage:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£163.49 @ Technextday) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black CPU Cooler  (£33.19 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-E DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£97.40 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£56.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Western Digital WDS500G3B0C 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£43.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Fighter Video Card  (£389.89 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£39.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 CM 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£45.75 @ Technextday) 
Monitor: MSI Optix G271 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  (£153.99 @ Currys PC World Business) 
Total: £1024.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-01 16:16 BST+0100

Crappy board though so no upgrade path. Also the psu is meh and 500W is a undersized for future upgrades. 

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44 minutes ago, venomtail said:

27'' 144hz 1080p Panel. Smaller storage and 6600XT. Could swap down to a 6600 and get instead 1TB storage:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£163.49 @ Technextday) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black CPU Cooler  (£33.19 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-E DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£97.40 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£56.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Western Digital WDS500G3B0C 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£43.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Fighter Video Card  (£389.89 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£39.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 CM 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£45.75 @ Technextday) 
Monitor: MSI Optix G271 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  (£153.99 @ Currys PC World Business) 
Total: £1024.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-01 16:16 BST+0100

pretty sick gonna use probs ty but is that case easy to build in for first time?

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2 hours ago, PhoenixOrigin said:

pretty sick gonna use probs ty but is that case easy to build in for first time?

See my comments above. If you are going to go with an Intel build then you want a better board such as the B660/M-A which will add to the cost. Same goes for the psu.

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imma go with 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MMbZFg

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£163.49 @ Technextday) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer i35 A-RGB CPU Cooler  (£32.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B660M-A D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£139.89 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£56.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£43.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Fighter Video Card  (£389.89 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: MSI MAG FORGE 100R ATX Mid Tower Case  (£42.99 @ Currys PC World) 
Power Supply: EVGA BR 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£50.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN725N 802.11a/b/g/n USB Type-A Wi-Fi Adapter  (£7.78 @ CCL Computers) 
Monitor: MSI Optix G271 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  (£153.99 @ Currys PC World Business) 
Total: £1081.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-01 20:41 BST+0100

 

thanks yall

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3 hours ago, PhoenixOrigin said:

pretty sick gonna use probs ty but is that case easy to build in for first time?

I haven't tried it myself, it's new on the market but looks promising.

 

1 hour ago, lee32uk said:

See my comments above. If you are going to go with an Intel build then you want a better board such as the B660/M-A which will add to the cost. Same goes for the psu.

or he can do a build now and next time he upgrades buy a new board and PSU. Prices will be lower in the future for that gen and why buy now so that just in case he can upgrade when he doesn't know when he'll upgrade. By then he'll know what he needs and be in a much better position.

 

If he was buying a first generation AM5 motherboard then yes, I would agree to buy the more expensive one then so he can have an upgrade path if no groundbreaking features come out.

Desktop: Ryzen 7 5800X3D - Kraken X62 Rev 2 - STRIX X470-I - 3600MHz 32GB Kingston Fury - 250GB 970 Evo boot - 2x 500GB 860 Evo - 1TB P3 - 4TB HDD - RX6800 - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold - Manta - Silent Wings Pro 4's enjoyer

SetupZowie XL2740 27.0" 240hz - Roccat Burt Pro Corsair K70 LUX browns - PC38X - Mackie CR5X's

Current build on PCPartPicker

 

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20 minutes ago, venomtail said:

or he can do a build now and next time he upgrades buy a new board and PSU. Prices will be lower in the future for that gen and why buy now so that just in case he can upgrade when he doesn't know when he'll upgrade. By then he'll know what he needs and be in a much better position.

 

If he was buying a first generation AM5 motherboard then yes, I would agree to buy the more expensive one then so he can have an upgrade path if no groundbreaking features come out.

You don't build a pc for it to be obsolete straight away. Not unless you like throwing money away. There is still 13th gen to come on this platform. If he decides he wants an i7/i9 then he is screwed. Same goes for a better gpu. You are just trying to cram in a better gpu at the expense of the rest of the build.

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28 minutes ago, PhoenixOrigin said:

imma go with 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MMbZFg

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£163.49 @ Technextday) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer i35 A-RGB CPU Cooler  (£32.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B660M-A D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£139.89 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£56.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£43.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Fighter Video Card  (£389.89 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: MSI MAG FORGE 100R ATX Mid Tower Case  (£42.99 @ Currys PC World) 
Power Supply: EVGA BR 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£50.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN725N 802.11a/b/g/n USB Type-A Wi-Fi Adapter  (£7.78 @ CCL Computers) 
Monitor: MSI Optix G271 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  (£153.99 @ Currys PC World Business) 
Total: £1081.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-01 20:41 BST+0100

 

thanks yall

Better board than the other Intel build but still not ideal. The Gigabyte B660 Gaming X and MSI B660M-A are both better. 

 

Terrible psu.

 

That wifi adapter is slooooooooooow.

 

 

Spend an extra £12 and get a better board with wifi, and a better psu.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£163.49 @ Technextday) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer i35 A-RGB CPU Cooler  (£32.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£139.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£56.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£43.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Fighter Video Card  (£389.89 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: MSI MAG FORGE 100R ATX Mid Tower Case  (£42.99 @ Currys PC World) 
Power Supply: Corsair TX650M Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£70.61 @ Amazon UK) 
Monitor: MSI Optix G271 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  (£153.99 @ Currys PC World Business) 
Total: £1093.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-01 21:18 BST+0100

 

 

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7 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

You don't build a pc for it to be obsolete straight away. Not unless you like throwing money away. There is still 13th gen to come on this platform. If he decides he wants an i7/i9 then he is screwed. Same goes for a better gpu. You are just trying to cram in a better gpu at the expense of the rest of the build.

It's not a question of what he is limited to with the upgrades down the path but more of a question if he even needs to upgrade in the first place.

 

If OP knows and plans to use this same PC for the next 8 years, then yes, downgrade the CPU to an i3 and GPU to a 6500XT, get yourself a better 690 board and a much bigger, more capable PSU. Then he can upgrade years down the line.

Or how I know many people who buy a underpowered PC with huge "future upgrade potential" who sell it a year or two later because life changes. Some poor soul bought an x570 board and used some Ryzen 1200 until he sold it because so many people told him he has such upgrade potential down the line when he'll be able to buy a 5900X down the line. Dude got no upgrade nor got the framerate's he paid for.

Desktop: Ryzen 7 5800X3D - Kraken X62 Rev 2 - STRIX X470-I - 3600MHz 32GB Kingston Fury - 250GB 970 Evo boot - 2x 500GB 860 Evo - 1TB P3 - 4TB HDD - RX6800 - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold - Manta - Silent Wings Pro 4's enjoyer

SetupZowie XL2740 27.0" 240hz - Roccat Burt Pro Corsair K70 LUX browns - PC38X - Mackie CR5X's

Current build on PCPartPicker

 

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18 minutes ago, venomtail said:

It's not a question of what he is limited to with the upgrades down the path but more of a question if he even needs to upgrade in the first place.

I'd argue it's not even about upgrability at this point, thought the board isn't ideal in that either. Only 2 ram slots is terrible if op wants to add another kit of ram later down the line. They would have to sell the kit instead of getting another pair. Getting a  slightly more expensive board as @lee32uk suggested, like the Asus prime b66m-a or the msi pro b660m-a would be more ideal. Its not even a good board either. Imo it's basically bottom of the barrel in terms of perfromance, like you can literally see the vrm and power phases on the board. Consider this screenshot 

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this is because the vrms were thermal throttling with a 12700.  I couldn't even see it working with a next gen 13400 if the trend of cpus stays the same.

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25 minutes ago, venomtail said:

It's not a question of what he is limited to with the upgrades down the path but more of a question if he even needs to upgrade in the first place.

 

If OP knows and plans to use this same PC for the next 8 years, then yes, downgrade the CPU to an i3 and GPU to a 6500XT, get yourself a better 690 board and a much bigger, more capable PSU. Then he can upgrade years down the line.

Or how I know many people who buy a underpowered PC with huge "future upgrade potential" who sell it a year or two later because life changes. Some poor soul bought an x570 board and used some Ryzen 1200 until he sold it because so many people told him he has such upgrade potential down the line when he'll be able to buy a 5900X down the line. Dude got no upgrade nor got the framerate's he paid for.

You should always give yourself an upgrade path even if you don't end up doing it. If you need to buy a new board or psu etc every time then you are just throwing money away. 

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well i do plan to use this for the next 10years

1 hour ago, lee32uk said:

Better board than the other Intel build but still not ideal. The Gigabyte B660 Gaming X and MSI B660M-A are both better. 

 

Terrible psu.

 

That wifi adapter is slooooooooooow.

 

 

Spend an extra £12 and get a better board with wifi, and a better psu.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£163.49 @ Technextday) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer i35 A-RGB CPU Cooler  (£32.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£139.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£56.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£43.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Fighter Video Card  (£389.89 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: MSI MAG FORGE 100R ATX Mid Tower Case  (£42.99 @ Currys PC World) 
Power Supply: Corsair TX650M Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£70.61 @ Amazon UK) 
Monitor: MSI Optix G271 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  (£153.99 @ Currys PC World Business) 
Total: £1093.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-01 21:18 BST+0100

 

 

huh sick thanks

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1 hour ago, lee32uk said:

Better board than the other Intel build but still not ideal. The Gigabyte B660 Gaming X and MSI B660M-A are both better. 

 

Terrible psu.

 

That wifi adapter is slooooooooooow.

 

 

Spend an extra £12 and get a better board with wifi, and a better psu.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£163.49 @ Technextday) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer i35 A-RGB CPU Cooler  (£32.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£139.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£56.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£43.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Fighter Video Card  (£389.89 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: MSI MAG FORGE 100R ATX Mid Tower Case  (£42.99 @ Currys PC World) 
Power Supply: Corsair TX650M Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£70.61 @ Amazon UK) 
Monitor: MSI Optix G271 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  (£153.99 @ Currys PC World Business) 
Total: £1093.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-01 21:18 BST+0100

 

whats up with the image?

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