Im building my first pc!

[PotatoeSmasher8]

I currently am looking at a Gigabyte B550m-A Wifi motherboard. An AMD Ryzen 5 5500. A EVGA 500 W3 PSU. And two sticks of 8gb G.SKILL Trident Z RGA. With a 3070 Founders edition. I don't have a case in mind, I'm looking for a 50 dollar Micro-ATX case. Any tips, or got a case in mind? I already have the storage. Also if you have better stuff in mind let me know. Thanks!

[RONOTHAN##]

What's your budget? I wouldn't touch that PSU if you're planning on running a 3070, and having a budget would let us work to get you a system that makes sense. 

 

EDIT:

10 minutes ago, PotatoeSmasher8 said:

I already have the storage.

Just to make sure, do you have an SSD? If you don't have an SSD, you want to get an SSD.

[PotatoeSmasher8]

31 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

What's your budget? I wouldn't touch that PSU if you're planning on running a 3070, and having a budget would let us work to get you a system that makes sense. 

 

EDIT:

Just to make sure, do you have an SSD? If you don't have an SSD, you want to get an SSD.

I already own the 3070, my dad does. So my budget is about max 400 to 500. Im not looking for a fancy over expensive pc, Something that runs good graphics without lag. I do have an ssd.

[RONOTHAN##]

5 minutes ago, PotatoeSmasher8 said:

I already own the 3070, my dad does. So my budget is about max 400 to 500. Im not looking for a fancy over expensive pc, Something that runs good graphics without lag. I do have an ssd.

You can do a bit better for the $400-500 you're looking to spend. You can fit a 12400F, a B660 board, and a good 750W in this budget. If you want to save a bit of money, the 12100F is still a better gaming CPU than the 5500 for cheaper, it's just only 4c8t (fine for gaming, but I wouldn't let much stuff run in the background). 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VtFdFg

[PotatoeSmasher8]

5 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

You can do a bit better for the $400-500 you're looking to spend. You can fit a 12400F, a B660 board, and a good 750W in this budget. If you want to save a bit of money, the 12100F is still a better gaming CPU than the 5500 for cheaper, it's just only 4c8t (fine for gaming, but I wouldn't let much stuff run in the background). 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VtFdFg

I'm thinking of rather going for the AMD. I've done some research and I think the AMD is better performance. I don't mind the extra 40 dollars for the cpu.

EDIT: not 40 dollars, i was looking at the i3.

Edited June 13, 2022 by PotatoeSmasher8

[RONOTHAN##]

Just now, PotatoeSmasher8 said:

I'm thinking of rather going for the AMD. I've done some research and I think the AMD is better performance. I don't mind the extra 40 dollars for the cpu.

How recent has that research been? Alder Lake generally performs either the same for a bit less, or better for the same amount. The R5 5500 isn't a particularly good bang-for-the-buck CPU, in games it gets consistently beaten by the cheaper 12100F. The R5 5600 gets matched in performance by the 12400F, but 12400F is usually a little cheaper and the boards are the same price. Coming from someone on the AM4 platform, I would not be buying an AMD CPU at this point because the Intel chips, especially on the lower end, are a better value.

 

 

[PotatoeSmasher8]

Ahh, thanks. I was thinking that AMD was much better geared for gaming. Do you think i should go for the i3-12100f or the i5-12400f?

13 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

How recent has that research been? Alder Lake generally performs either the same for a bit less, or better for the same amount. The R5 5500 isn't a particularly good bang-for-the-buck CPU, in games it gets consistently beaten by the cheaper 12100F. The R5 5600 gets matched in performance by the 12400F, but 12400F is usually a little cheaper and the boards are the same price. Coming from someone on the AM4 platform, I would not be buying an AMD CPU at this point because the Intel chips, especially on the lower end, are a better value.

 

 

 

[RONOTHAN##]

Just now, PotatoeSmasher8 said:

Ahh, thanks. I was thinking that AMD was much better geared for gaming. Do you think i should go for the i3-12100f or the i5-12400f?

 

If you can afford the 12400F, I'd go for that since games are starting to use more than 4 cores, but if that extra $50-60 would put you over budget, I wouldn't feel bad about going 12100F. 

[PotatoeSmasher8]

13 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

If you can afford the 12400F, I'd go for that since games are starting to use more than 4 cores, but if that extra $50-60 would put you over budget, I wouldn't feel bad about going 12100F. 

The extra money wouldn't be too bad. I feel like its worth it.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8MPs8r

You can do much better by just yeeting the case

 

Case wise you can get a 3$ or free (depending on where you look) scrap office case or a 5-10$ office case in good condition and run w/o sidepanel or a ~30$ case that has perforated/mesh front for good airflow, case is the lowest priority as its not even a neccesity for a pc to run but very much preffered due to obvious reasons like not having the pc be a complete mess ontop a cardboard box like my testbench

[PotatoeSmasher8]

47 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8MPs8r

You can do much better by just yeeting the case

 

Case wise you can get a 3$ or free (depending on where you look) scrap office case or a 5-10$ office case in good condition and run w/o sidepanel or a ~30$ case that has perforated/mesh front for good airflow, case is the lowest priority as its not even a neccesity for a pc to run but very much preffered due to obvious reasons like not having the pc be a complete mess ontop a cardboard box like my testbench

Ahh, I think I would go for just a cheap micro atx case that at least can hold the parts.

[ahmad13610]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($123.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B560M DS3H AC Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory  ($48.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Walmart) 
Power Supply: Corsair CV 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($41.99 @ GameStop) 
Monitor: Gigabyte ‎G27FC A 27.0" 1920x1080 170 Hz Monitor  ($184.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $498.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-13 01:59 EDT-0400

[PotatoeSmasher8]

12 hours ago, ahmad13610 said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($123.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B560M DS3H AC Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory  ($48.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Walmart) 
Power Supply: Corsair CV 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($41.99 @ GameStop) 
Monitor: Gigabyte ‎G27FC A 27.0" 1920x1080 170 Hz Monitor  ($184.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $498.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-13 01:59 EDT-0400

Goodness. I already got a monitor though, so scratch the 185 dollars. So I can go better on cpu and motherboard. Like Is the 12400f or 10400f better?

[Ryuikko]

56 minutes ago, PotatoeSmasher8 said:

Like Is the 12400f or 10400f better?

Nonono I'd never go previous generation. I'm not sure why but that persons lists never have any context of the build. Stick with the 12400f, it will definitely perfrom better than a 10400f

[PotatoeSmasher8]

yeah,

59 minutes ago, Ryuikko said:

Nonono I'd never go previous generation. I'm not sure why but that persons lists never have any context of the build. Stick with the 12400f, it will definitely perfrom better than a 10400f

Ok, thanks, because taking the monitor out, I can put that into the motherboard and the 12400f. And maybe ram.

[ahmad13610]

6 hours ago, PotatoeSmasher8 said:

Goodness. I already got a monitor though, so scratch the 185 dollars. So I can go better on cpu and motherboard. Like Is the 12400f or 10400f better?

ma bad sir

ok 12400f's build incoming

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($169.94 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: ID-COOLING SE-914-XT Basic 45.8 CFM CPU Cooler  ($28.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B660M DS3H DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cougar MX330-G Air ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.90 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 PE 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $503.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-13 20:24 EDT-0400

 

sry over three point seventy nine bucks

 

[PotatoeSmasher8]

15 minutes ago, ahmad13610 said:

ma bad sir

ok 12400f's build incoming

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($169.94 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: ID-COOLING SE-914-XT Basic 45.8 CFM CPU Cooler  ($28.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B660M DS3H DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cougar MX330-G Air ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.90 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 PE 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $503.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-13 20:24 EDT-0400

 

sry over three point seventy nine bucks

 

i could go cheaper on the PSU and case.

[ahmad13610]

34 minutes ago, PotatoeSmasher8 said:

i could go cheaper on the PSU and case.

i doubt cheap psu can handle rtx 3070 card + i5 12400f power. maybe i can trust corsair cv 650W

 

sry looks the motherboard before can't handle weight of 3070 card. swap it to this

Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-G DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 

 

okay i'm done

#dismiss

 

 

[PotatoeSmasher8]

2 hours ago, ahmad13610 said:

i doubt cheap psu can handle rtx 3070 card + i5 12400f power. maybe i can trust corsair cv 650W

 

sry looks the motherboard before can't handle weight of 3070 card. swap it to this

Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-G DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 

 

okay i'm done

#dismiss

 

 

I can't seem to find a board with the LGA 1700 socket with wifi.

[Ryuikko]

3 minutes ago, PotatoeSmasher8 said:

I can't seem to find a board with the LGA 1700 socket with wifi.

Hmm? All b660 and z690 boards have the lga1700 socket.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pzstt6/msi-mag-b660m-mortar-wifi-ddr4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-mag-b660m-mortar-wifi-ddr4

An example would be this. If you want to find another one you can just put "b660 wifi" in a pcpartpicker search bar and get more than just this one

[PotatoeSmasher8]

14 minutes ago, Ryuikko said:

Hmm? All b660 and z690 boards have the lga1700 socket.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pzstt6/msi-mag-b660m-mortar-wifi-ddr4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-mag-b660m-mortar-wifi-ddr4

An example would be this. If you want to find another one you can just put "b660 wifi" in a pcpartpicker search bar and get more than just this one

i found a 660 with the wifi ports for 110

[PotatoeSmasher8]

3 minutes ago, PotatoeSmasher8 said:

i found a 660 with the wifi ports for 110

Nevermind, can't overclock. I would want one with the ability to overclock and have wifi ports.

[jaslion]

11 hours ago, PotatoeSmasher8 said:

Nevermind, can't overclock. I would want one with the ability to overclock and have wifi ports.

The 12400f cannot overclock so there is no point. Also keep in mind that todays cpus barely gain anythinf from overclocking because they are already running at almost 100% of their capabilities out of the box.

 

Overclocking is not something you do when you have a small budget or want a good bit extra performance anymore. Its when you want to see how much extra couple % performance you can get out of your chip in any way you can. But rarely do you get even a 5% performance boost usually 2%

[PotatoeSmasher8]

2 hours ago, jaslion said:

The 12400f cannot overclock so there is no point. Also keep in mind that todays cpus barely gain anythinf from overclocking because they are already running at almost 100% of their capabilities out of the box.

 

Overclocking is not something you do when you have a small budget or want a good bit extra performance anymore. Its when you want to see how much extra couple % performance you can get out of your chip in any way you can. But rarely do you get even a 5% performance boost usually 2%

Ahh, got it. Thanks

 

[trevb0t]

To mirror an above message, I wouldn't cheap out on a PSU with your expensive and powerful graphics card... And I'd certainly look for a case with some ventilation. Some of the low end units are hotboxes.