Should I buy an amd or Nvidia graphicscard

[Minetomy]

Budget (including currency): the currency is euro. And my budget for the pc would be 1900 - 2000

Country: austria

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: it will be used for minecraft, roblox, scrap mechanic and bloons tower defense

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): it should have rgb, 32gb ram, an i5 12600kf and an watercoler

 

[Zando_]

Nvidia unless you need to stick in a hard budget and AMD GPUs fit that better. Nvidia's GPUs (and their tech like CUDA and RTX/DLSS) are generally better supported due to Nvidia being willing to throw money and driver help at developers. 

 

I haven't used RGB components in a damn while, so here's a rough RGB-less baseline: 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://at.pcpartpicker.com/list/vsJLyK

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  (€276.90 @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€95.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€153.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€109.90 @ Alza) 
Storage: Samsung 980 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€100.90 @ Alza) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB VENTUS 3X OC Video Card  (€472.90 @ Alza) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (€114.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€180.90 @ Alza) 
Total: €1506.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PSU is overkill, once you're set on a GPU then you can get an appropriate PSU to match the power draw of the CPU + GPU + overhead for overclocking/fans/RGB/etc. There's room in the budget to get a better GPU or shuffle components around for better RGB support, depending on what you want to be RGB (RGB stuff  often ends up costing more because you'll want to stick with the least OEMs possible to not go insane from trying to manage all the software suites). 

 

[chaotic kronos]

16 minutes ago, Zando_ said:

Nvidia unless you need to stick in a hard budget and AMD GPUs fit that better. Nvidia's GPUs (and their tech like CUDA and RTX/DLSS) are generally better supported due to Nvidia being willing to throw money and driver help at developers. 

 

I haven't used RGB components in a damn while, so here's a rough RGB-less baseline: 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://at.pcpartpicker.com/list/vsJLyK

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  (€276.90 @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€95.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€153.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€109.90 @ Alza) 
Storage: Samsung 980 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€100.90 @ Alza) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB VENTUS 3X OC Video Card  (€472.90 @ Alza) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (€114.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€180.90 @ Alza) 
Total: €1506.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-08 08:56 CEST+0200

 

PSU is overkill, once you're set on a GPU then you can get an appropriate PSU to match the power draw of the CPU + GPU + overhead for overclocking/fans/RGB/etc. There's room in the budget to get a better GPU or shuffle components around for better RGB support, depending on what you want to be RGB (RGB stuff  often ends up costing more because you'll want to stick with the least OEMs possible to not go insane from trying to manage all the software suites). 

 

Idk.  Normally I was against overkill psu . But now it's not that bad of a thing as it future proofs the psu for a gpu upgrade.

[Zando_]

Just now, chaotic kronos said:

Idk.  Normally I was against overkill psu . But now it's not that bad of a thing as it future proofs the psu for a gpu upgrade.

Yeah, if the new cards turn out even more power hungry. But I wouldn't sacrifice the current PC to afford a maybe future upgrade, so if it came down to a GPU tier hike/better RAM or something like that, I'd drop the PSU back down. 

[TECHNOMANCER303]

honestly NVidia unless AMD is having a deal. 

[chaotic kronos]

3 minutes ago, Zando_ said:

Yeah, if the new cards turn out even more power hungry. But I wouldn't sacrifice the current PC to afford a maybe future upgrade, so if it came down to a GPU tier hike/better RAM or something like that, I'd drop the PSU back down. 

Yes . I would do the same .but if there is  no other upgrade for the difference then I won't condem it . As I my self was one of those how had overkill psu and when I upgraded to 3000 series it was just enough 

[Ryuikko]

In my opinion amd cards are good for budget gaming on 1080p or 1440p. Amd cards usually have better price to performance than nvidia cards but that might change soon because of  the mining recession. If your using any features like dlss, Ray tracing ect than I'd always go nvidia. They have more refined features in those aspects as well as usually being better in Adobe programs as well. In your case it seems like you're  just gaming so I'd get a 6700xt or above that will perfrom great for games.

[Zando_]

27 minutes ago, chaotic kronos said:

Yes . I would do the same .but if there is  no other upgrade for the difference then I won't condem it . As I my self was one of those how had overkill psu and when I upgraded to 3000 series it was just enough 

Hehe, I should be good for a while. Scored a 1600W T2 on sale years ago, I'll be covered on wattage for a while yet. Think it still has 7 or so years of warranty left too. 

28 minutes ago, Ryuikko said:

being better in Adobe programs

Really all "work" programs, they usually support Nvidia better. Or Nvidia supports them better? Same difference, Nvidia comes out on top. 

 

I do hope AMD gets their act together on the driver side, they make really cool hardware then just kind of dump it on the market with juuuust usable (only sometimes in my experience) drivers. Hopefully Intel adding to the GPU competition soonish will push AMD to invest more in their Radeon side. 

[venomtail]

NVIDIA if you're more of a casual play more indie games and won't be diagnosing the issue if a game runs bad. If money's more of a concern, I feel like AMD have far better "deals" than NVIDIA right now. NVIDIA knows people will buy their GPU's regardless of how much they cost so the price is sky high.

[ahmad13610]

use amd storemi for better disk space and performance

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€224.90 @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Loop 240 Liquid CPU Cooler  (€97.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€128.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€133.90 @ Alza) 
Storage(storemi): Gigabyte AORUS RGB 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€53.90 @ Alza) 
Storage: Seagate SkyHawk AI 8 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€209.90 @ Alza) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB MECH 2X Video Card  (€649.90 @ Alza) 
Case: SilentiumPC Regnum RG6V TG ATX Mid Tower Case  (€70.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: MSI MPG A-GF 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€87.90 @ Alza) 
Monitor: MSI Optix MAG301CR2 29.5" 2560x1080 200 Hz Monitor  (€340.90 @ Alza) 
Total: €1999.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[Guest]

I wouldn't bother with the 'K' version. A decent air cooler is plenty for the 12400F. For the types of games you have listed you don't need to spend a fortune.

 

You could go with a slightly bigger psu, but if you are only looking at mid range parts then no need.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€186.90 @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (€34.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B660M GAMING X DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€142.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€109.90 @ Alza) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN750 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€108.90 @ Alza) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB VENTUS 3X OC Video Card  (€471.90 @ Alza) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case  (€114.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM (2021) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€79.90 @ Alza) 
Total: €1250.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-08 16:52 CEST+0200

[ahmad13610]

full set version :

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€224.90 @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€81.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€100.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€127.90 @ Alza) 
Storage: Gigabyte AORUS RGB 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€53.90 @ Alza) 
Storage: Seagate SkyHawk AI 8 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€209.90 @ Alza) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card  (€528.90 @ Alza) 
Case: Deepcool Gamer Storm MACUBE 310 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€72.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: MSI MPG A-GF 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€87.90 @ Alza) 
Monitor: MSI Optix MAG301CR2 29.5" 2560x1080 200 Hz Monitor  (€340.90 @ Alza) 
Keyboard: EVGA Z15 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  (€80.90 @ Alza) 
Mouse: MSI CLUTCH GM41 LIGHTWEIGHT Wired Optical Mouse  (€68.90 @ Alza) 
Headphones: Asus TUF Gaming H3  Headset  (€35.90 @ Alza) 
Total: €2015.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-09 01:58 CEST+0200

 

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, ahmad13610 said:

full set version :

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€224.90 @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€81.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€100.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€127.90 @ Alza) 
Storage: Gigabyte AORUS RGB 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€53.90 @ Alza) 
Storage: Seagate SkyHawk AI 8 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€209.90 @ Alza) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card  (€528.90 @ Alza) 
Case: Deepcool Gamer Storm MACUBE 310 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€72.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: MSI MPG A-GF 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€87.90 @ Alza) 
Monitor: MSI Optix MAG301CR2 29.5" 2560x1080 200 Hz Monitor  (€340.90 @ Alza) 
Keyboard: EVGA Z15 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  (€80.90 @ Alza) 
Mouse: MSI CLUTCH GM41 LIGHTWEIGHT Wired Optical Mouse  (€68.90 @ Alza) 
Headphones: Asus TUF Gaming H3  Headset  (€35.90 @ Alza) 
Total: €2015.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-09 01:58 CEST+0200

 

 

No offence but that isn't a good build.

 

The cooler is overkill for a 5600X. A Vetroo V5 or similar would be enough. Also the R5 5600 is 24 euros cheaper.

 

That board is a bit meh. Not terrible, but at that price point I would take the MSI B550M PRO-VDH wifi.

 

Not sure what is going on with that storage config ? Guessing you want them to run Storemi. So here is the thing. If you are spending 260ish Euros on storage for a gaming pc just go with a 2TB NVMe for less money. No need to use Storemi. 

 

That case looks like it has no airflow.

 

The op didn't mention needing a Monitor/peripherals so it would be better to find that out first.

 

[Minetomy]

4 hours ago, lee32uk said:

No offence but that isn't a good build.

 

The cooler is overkill for a 5600X. A Vetroo V5 or similar would be enough. Also the R5 5600 is 24 euros cheaper.

 

That board is a bit meh. Not terrible, but at that price point I would take the MSI B550M PRO-VDH wifi.

 

Not sure what is going on with that storage config ? Guessing you want them to run Storemi. So here is the thing. If you are spending 260ish Euros on storage for a gaming pc just go with a 2TB NVMe for less money. No need to use Storemi. 

 

That case looks like it has no airflow.

 

The op didn't mention needing a Monitor/peripherals so it would be better to find that out first.

 

I forgot to say that I need a monitor keyboard and mouse too