Another AMD vs. intel question

[evilmeister13]

I asked a few days ago about what would make a good emulation build, and everyone said intel because amd doesnt have the raw power of intel, but are they reffering to the current gen of amd apus? I have trouble believing the raw power of the fx series would be bad for emulating...

[Lays]

Amd has a good amount of raw power, but if you're building an emulator PC, single threaded performance will be your friend.

 

Thus intel.

[Cacao]

I don't know much about emulation, but I can tell you that raw performance wise Intel has some better options. AMD goes up to the 8350 (and it's variants) which is about the equivalent of Intel's i5 series. You still have all the i7 and extreme edition stuff above that.

[qwertywarrior]

pcsx2 had multicore support for a while now

[Wats]

i3 and a gtx750?

[WoodenMarker]

It's not about raw power. Intel just has better single core performance than amd and emulators tend to be reliant on fast single cores instead of having more slower cores.

[AmusedGoat]

AMD has the best price to performance ratio, HANDS DOWN.

 

A Fx 8320 for 100$? With 9/10 overclocking? And possibility to match i7 3770 with OC, which costs $320? Intel cannot compete with that bang for buck, just like AMD cannot compete with a i7-3960x.

 

Single core means nothing nowadays as everything is multithreaded. It would only matter for virtualization, not for gaming.

 

My overclocked 8320 destroys the i7 3770, not the unlocked version though which is more expensive HAHA sitting at $360. Vs 100$ for AMD FX 8320. Good goy, go Intel.

[evilmeister13]

Im probably still just gonna go AMD just because of budget, but thanks for the opinions, ill definitely keep them in mind for future builds.

[Faa]

Im probably still just gonna go AMD just because of budget, but thanks for the opinions, ill definitely keep them in mind for future builds.

You're not saving any money, 8350@5GHz doesnt match an i5's per core performance. A locked i5 and the cheapest board that carry it is 40$ so 220$ you have an i5 and a board. The board you'd be needing to overclock them and cool them doesn't make them relevant anymore over i5's.

 

 

AMD has the best price to performance ratio, HANDS DOWN.

 

A Fx 8320 for 100$? With 9/10 overclocking? And possibility to match i7 3770 with OC, which costs $320? Intel cannot compete with that bang for buck, just like AMD cannot compete with a i7-3960x.

 

Single core means nothing nowadays as everything is multithreaded. It would only matter for virtualization, not for gaming.

 

My overclocked 8320 destroys the i7 3770, not the unlocked version though which is more expensive HAHA sitting at $360. Vs 100$ for AMD FX 8320. Good goy, go Intel.

I hope you realize nothing in your post was correct. Claiming gaming is all about multithreaded performance is just off the record.

[DaRk0]

Funniest thing in this thread - 8320 destroys i7. Wow.

@OP

Get yourself an i5 and overclock the hell out of it.

[deathjester]

I asked a few days ago about what would make a good emulation build, and everyone said intel because amd doesnt have the raw power of intel, but are they reffering to the current gen of amd apus? I have trouble believing the raw power of the fx series would be bad for emulating...

 

Depends do you want to emulate Wii with Dolphin Emulator? I5 k or go home pretty much.

 

Some games will work on a lower clocked I5 and probably an I3, but many games you have to use expensive sound settings on performance. Mario Galaxies would be a good example. I had to get well past 4 ghz for that game to run well.

 

As to why AMD is bad for emulation? Let the Dolphin people tell you.

 

 

https://dolphin-emu.org/docs/faq/

 

Couldn't Dolphin use more of my CPU cores to go faster? 

CPUs do not work that way.

Every core on a CPU runs in parallel. Two tasks can run very well in parallel if they don't need to communicate often or to run at the exact same speed. For example, compressing files can be run on separate cores because compressing one file and compressing another file are two completely independent tasks, which do not need to communicate.

In Dolphin, the only demanding tasks that can run well in parallel are the CPU, the GPU and the DSP. Breaking up any of these tasks into smaller tasks just to run it on more cores is very likely to make the program slower. That's why Dolphin only runs on 3 cores and won't use all of your 4 or 6 cores CPU.

 

So all that matters is what is fastest on 3 cores. Here is single core performance from our forum. Also good luck getting an AMD up to 5.3 ghz for 24/7 use. You are looking at realistic scores on 24/7 from 110-117 on an OC AMD single core at like 4.6-4.9. That ain't cutting it in Dolphin.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlC81MjwelBgdEZNV3l6aHl1eUNwSUR4Rml0MXMzN1E&usp=sharing#gid=1

 

 

[Faa]

Funniest thing in this thread - 8320 destroys i7. Wow.

Funniest thing is he paid 320$ when you can get for 60$ more this:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ Amazon) 

Motherboard:  MSI Z87M-G43 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($80.97 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $380.96

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-23 21:23 EDT-0400)