LG C1

[JordanTrace]

It's currently under $1000 for the 48 inch version. Should I buy it now or wait till black Friday and see if the price drops more?

[Alex Atkin UK]

52 minutes ago, JordanTrace said:

It's currently under $1000 for the 48 inch version. Should I buy it now or wait till black Friday and see if the price drops more?

I'd expect the C1 to be out of stock by then, that's when the C2 will start getting heavily discounted.

[jones177]

37 minutes ago, JordanTrace said:

It's currently under $1000 for the 48 inch version. Should I buy it now or wait till black Friday and see if the price drops more?

All my money at that time of the year will be for 40 series GPUs so I bought the 55" version this week for $100 more than the 48" version. 

They also may be out of stock by black Friday and the C2s will be at a discount. 

 

Word of warning.

They are not monitors and they will burn in if used like a monitor. 

For TV and gaming they are great but for apps like Chrome they will burn in.

The Windows start icon and lower tool bar will burn in as well.  Have them set so that they disappear. 

What is better than the TVs nannies is the Windows built in screensaver and everything dark mod.

 

 

[JordanTrace]

9 hours ago, jones177 said:

All my money at that time of the year will be for 40 series GPUs so I bought the 55" version this week for $100 more than the 48" version. 

They also may be out of stock by black Friday and the C2s will be at a discount. 

 

Word of warning.

They are not monitors and they will burn in if used like a monitor. 

For TV and gaming they are great but for apps like Chrome they will burn in.

The Windows start icon and lower tool bar will burn in as well.  Have them set so that they disappear. 

What is better than the TVs nannies is the Windows built in screensaver and everything dark mod.

 

 

Yeah, I've researched the risks. It will mostly be for gaming and watching shows.

[JordanTrace]

So far as price goes, where its at currently is where its gonna stay until its discontinued. Do I have that right?

[e22big]

5 hours ago, JordanTrace said:

So far as price goes, where its at currently is where its gonna stay until its discontinued. Do I have that right?

either that or go even cheaper

 

last year TV will only get cheaper overtime, they will just also became less available as the product had been discontinued

 

the only risk you will have to take here will be not be able to get one at all if the supply run out by then

[jones177]

On 6/5/2022 at 7:48 PM, JordanTrace said:

Yeah, I've researched the risks. It will mostly be for gaming and watching shows.

The B9 I use for just gaming is still fine. It is 3 years old now.

[ewitte]

On 6/5/2022 at 9:42 AM, jones177 said:

 

They are not monitors and they will burn in if used like a monitor. 

 

 

 

 

With  the current state of OLED it can happen but unless there is a defect it pretty much needs to be abused.

[jones177]

1 hour ago, ewitte said:

 

With  the current state of OLED it can happen but unless there is a defect it pretty much needs to be abused.

It only has to be used a lot.

The chrome header burnt in on mine even with it in dark mode. It took about 4900 hours for it to be noticeable. 

This is above where movies play so in the black bar and not noticeable.

 

My solution was to stop using them as monitors and just use them for games and movies.

Now I am using my LG 38" 3840 X 1600 monitor to type this in.

 

[ewitte]

3 hours ago, jones177 said:

It only has to be used a lot.

The chrome header burnt in on mine even with it in dark mode. It took about 4900 hours for it to be noticeable. 

This is above where movies play so in the black bar and not noticeable.

 

My solution was to stop using them as monitors and just use them for games and movies.

Now I am using my LG 38" 3840 X 1600 monitor to type this in.

 

Chrome would have had to be open a LONG time.  On a C1 or something several generations older?  Yes it happens but from all the reports it is pretty rare these days.  Personally I've not seen even a hint but I'm only at 365 hours and I have pretty mild settings. What I have noticed though is how bad an experience it is going back though when I went to test something on the old monitor!

[jones177]

2 hours ago, ewitte said:

Chrome would have had to be open a LONG time.  On a C1 or something several generations older?  Yes it happens but from all the reports it is pretty rare these days.  Personally I've not seen even a hint but I'm only at 365 hours and I have pretty mild settings. What I have noticed though is how bad an experience it is going back though when I went to test something on the old monitor!

I thought that it was only bright logos and bars like you see in the RTINGS.com burn in test so I did not expect dark grays and blacks to burn in. 

The TV now has 7400 hours and it has not gotten any worse since I stopped using it for the forums and YouTube. 

 

My other B9 only has 3700 hours and it shows no sign of burn in.  I don't expect it to since it is only used for late night movies and gaming. 

 

My old monitor is a 38" ultrawide and it feels small, cramped and dull. 

There is no going back for me.

 

[Stahlmann]

17 hours ago, jones177 said:

It only has to be used a lot.

The chrome header burnt in on mine even with it in dark mode. It took about 4900 hours for it to be noticeable. 

This is above where movies play so in the black bar and not noticeable.

 

My solution was to stop using them as monitors and just use them for games and movies.

Now I am using my LG 38" 3840 X 1600 monitor to type this in.

 

I'm curious, what brightness are you using your OLED TV's? Running them brighter reduces lifespan.

 

Just to also chime in here: After 2.5 years of using my C9 there are no signs of burn-in whatsoever. Mine runs at 100 nits for SDR content ("OLED Light" setting at 28) and uncapped for HDR (obviously). For about a year or so i used it a lot for games and desktop, nowadays it's mostly movies. (Didn't stop using it for my PC because of burn-in fear, just because i found it to be more comfortable to sit at my desk rather than on my couch  )

[Andrewtst]

37 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

I'm curious, what brightness are you using your OLED TV's? Running them brighter reduces lifespan.

 

Just to also chime in here: After 2.5 years of using my C9 there are no signs of burn-in whatsoever. Mine runs at 100 nits for SDR content ("OLED Light" setting at 28) and uncapped for HDR (obviously). For about a year or so i used it a lot for games and desktop, nowadays it's mostly movies. (Didn't stop using it for my PC because of burn-in fear, just because i found it to be more comfortable to sit at my desk rather than on my couch  )

OLED Light 28 for SDR in C9 (I using this TV also) !!!??? Seriously? OMG are you only watch day light movie, even day light also too dim..

[Stahlmann]

15 minutes ago, Andrewtst said:

OLED Light 28 for SDR in C9 (I using this TV also) !!!??? Seriously? OMG are you only watch day light movie, even day light also too dim..

For me it's not a problem. If you get used to it, 100 nits is plenty even for using it during day. I have to mention though that my living room only has one window and it's next to the TV, not opposite. So i don't have any reflection or glare problems.

[Andrewtst]

3 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

Sorry i don't really understand what you're saying.

 

Is it too bright or too dim for you?

Oh I mean would it be too dim? 28 OLED light. I am shock when seen you putting as 28.  I just try put as 28, I cannot accept it, way too dim.

[Stahlmann]

3 minutes ago, Andrewtst said:

Oh I mean would it be too dim? 28 OLED light. I am shock when seen you putting as 28.

I edited my post above, sorry for the confusion.

 

I have to admit though, sometimes i turn the brightness up. But most of the time i use it at 28 (=100 nits) and it's bright enough. Especially on desktop use you don't have ABL because it only kicks in around 130 nits or so on the C9.

 

Just try it out. It seems much too dim at first, but after you give your eyes a few minutes to adjust, it's fine.

[Andrewtst]

2 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

I edited my post above, sorry for the confusion.

 

I have to admit though, sometimes i turn the brightness up. But most of the time i use it at 28 (=100 nits) and it's bright enough. Especially on desktop use you don't have ABL because it only kicks in around 130 nits or so on the C9.

Oh, now I understand, thanks for the information also where the ABL only kicks in when nits around 130 nits. This information is something I didn't know.

[Stahlmann]

23 minutes ago, Andrewtst said:

Oh, now I understand, thanks for the information also where the ABL only kicks in when nits around 130 nits. This information is something I didn't know.

I misremembered, it's actually around 150 nits. It's very easy to find out at what brightness the ABL kicks in. Go to the RTINGS review and look at the brightness; The "SDR sustained 100% window" is where brightness will end up at a full white screen (so after ABL tuned it down). So as long as you stay under the 100% window peak brightness, ABL will never kick in. You can basically go up to 150 nits without ever encountering ABL.

 

This is from the C9 review from RTINGS:

[Andrewtst]

10 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

I misremembered, it's actually around 150 nits. It's very easy to find out at what brightness the ABL kicks in. Go to the RTINGS review and look at the brightness; The "SDR sustained 100% window" is where brightness will end up at a full white screen (so after ABL tuned it down). So as long as you stay under the 100% window peak brightness, ABL will never kick in. You can basically go up to 150 nits before without ever encountering ABL.

 

This is from the C9 review from RTINGS:

Thanks a lot, now I understand and know where to found.

[jones177]

3 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

I'm curious, what brightness are you using your OLED TV's? Running them brighter reduces lifespan.

It is set to 50 or default.

My C1 has a default of 50 as well.

3 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

Just to also chime in here: After 2.5 years of using my C9 there are no signs of burn-in whatsoever. Mine runs at 100 nits for SDR content ("OLED Light" setting at 28) and uncapped for HDR (obviously). For about a year or so i used it a lot for games and desktop, nowadays it's mostly movies. (Didn't stop using it for my PC because of burn-in fear, just because i found it to be more comfortable to sit at my desk rather than on my couch  )

How many hours does yours have?

 

Only one of my B9s burnt in and the other one is not near the hours the other one has.

 

My TVs are on desks so I just push back to watch a movie.

Spoiler

 

[Stahlmann]

2 minutes ago, jones177 said:

How many hours does yours have?

Idk, do i need a service remote to look that up?

 

2 minutes ago, jones177 said:

My TVs are on desks so I just push back to watch a movie.

Sadly one big display doesn't quite fit in my needs. And i haven't figured out a way to have a 2nd display look good enough so it doesn't bother me next to an OLED. Otherwise i'd have a 42" C2 right now.

[jones177]

52 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

Idk, do i need a service remote to look that up?

No.

It is under General / TVinformation

52 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

 

Sadly one big display doesn't quite fit in my needs. And i haven't figured out a way to have a 2nd display look good enough so it doesn't bother me next to an OLED. Otherwise i'd have a 42" C2 right now.

It would not work for me when I was working since I used 2 monitors but retired it is fine. 

 

I did not go for a 42" because at some point monitors will catch up to TVs and the OLEDs will end up on bedroom walls and 42" is too small for the rooms.