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Thermal throttling no where near thermal limits

Chronified

I have an Asus Dash F15 with a 3070 , it was a gift so there isn't much to complain about, but I've noticed some quite odd thermal behaviors. 

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The 3070 is configured to an "85"watt TDP on the product page, but the time it spends at 85watts is incredibly seldom. 

 

It seems the GPU is thermally limited to 62c, any time it touches 62c it drops down from 85w to ~67w, and if you restrict the cooling a little bit so it touches 62c again it'll drop all the way down to 55w.

Since the GPU isn't heating up past 65 there isn't much chance for the systems fans to ramp up past a hum on any of the silent/default/turbo modes. There is absolutely 0 user controllable fan that I can find. I know it can spin up much faster because I've left it on my bed for a few minutes and the CPU got a chance to heat up enough for it to scream.

 

I've always loved Asus products and have been with them since the mid 2000s, I absolutely hate complaining against them but this is a bit much.

Any suggestions would be great.  

My rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 3.6Ghz, OC'ed to 4.2Ghz all core @ 1.25v + Corsair H60 120mm AIO

MB: Gigabyte B450 I Aorus Pro WiFi

RAM: Kingston Fury Beast RGB 32GB (2x16GB) 3600mhz CL16 (1-to-1 Infinity Fabric enabled)

GPU: Gigabyte RTX 2080 Super

*bought for $200 CAD off a friend who needed an RTX 3080, price was my reward.

CASE: InWinn A1 Plus in White with included 600w gold sfx PSU and included custom length cables

DISPLAY: 3x 20" AOC 1080p 60hz 4ms ,  32" RCA 1080p/60hz TV mounted above, all on a single arm.

 

Storage: C : 1TB WD Blue NVMe      D : 2TB Barracuda      E: 240GB Kingston V300 (scratch drive)

NAS: 240GB Kingston A400 + 6x 10+ year old 700GB Barracuda drives in my old FX8350+8GB DDR3 system

 

Logitech G15 1st Gen + Logitech G602 Wireless

Steam Controller +  Elite Series 2 controller + Logitech G29 Racing Wheel + Wingman Extreme Digital 3D Flight Stick

Sennheiser HD 4.40 Headphones + Pixel Buds 2 + Logitech Z213 2.1 Speakers

 

My Girlfriends Weeb-Ass Rig:

Razer Blade Pro 17 2020

10th Gen i7 10875H 8c/16t @5.1ghz 

17.3" 1080p 300Hz 100% sRGB, factory calibrated, 6mm bezel

RTX 2070 Max-Q 8GB

512GB generic NVMe

16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200Mhz

Wireless-AX201 (802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax), Bluetooth® 5.1, 2.5Gbit Ethernet

70.5 Whr Battery

Razer Huntsman Quartz, Razer Balistic Quartz, Razer Kraken Quartz Kitty Heaphones

*deep breath*

Razer Raptor 27" monitor, IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

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15 minutes ago, Chronified said:

I have an Asus Dash F15 with a 3070 , it was a gift so there isn't much to complain about, but I've noticed some quite odd thermal behaviors. 

image.png.19558726a57a20c1300725084ad9d1c5.png

The 3070 is configured to an "85"watt TDP on the product page, but the time it spends at 85watts is incredibly seldom. 

 

It seems the GPU is thermally limited to 62c, any time it touches 62c it drops down from 85w to ~67w, and if you restrict the cooling a little bit so it touches 62c again it'll drop all the way down to 55w.

Since the GPU isn't heating up past 65 there isn't much chance for the systems fans to ramp up past a hum on any of the silent/default/turbo modes. There is absolutely 0 user controllable fan that I can find. I know it can spin up much faster because I've left it on my bed for a few minutes and the CPU got a chance to heat up enough for it to scream.

 

I've always loved Asus products and have been with them since the mid 2000s, I absolutely hate complaining against them but this is a bit much.

Any suggestions would be great.  

Unfortunately this is very common.  My Ryzen 2500U has the same issue except its more predictable in that it will run full power for 10 minutes then clamp down hard.

 

I'm not sure why, but my guess would be the power delivery VRMs are running a lot hotter than the CPU/GPU so the power limit gets cut.

What's really frustrating is I've never once seen the specifics like this advertised, so you know what performance you can get under load vs sudden bursts.  Its why buying a laptop is so complicated, you have to rely on reviews.

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2 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

What's really frustrating is I've never once seen the specifics like this advertised

I really hope the new LTT Labs coming in the future will address these specifics for future releases, literally anything that comes through the door gets tested as such, would be great to have a massive LTTWiki containing all the data too

My rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 3.6Ghz, OC'ed to 4.2Ghz all core @ 1.25v + Corsair H60 120mm AIO

MB: Gigabyte B450 I Aorus Pro WiFi

RAM: Kingston Fury Beast RGB 32GB (2x16GB) 3600mhz CL16 (1-to-1 Infinity Fabric enabled)

GPU: Gigabyte RTX 2080 Super

*bought for $200 CAD off a friend who needed an RTX 3080, price was my reward.

CASE: InWinn A1 Plus in White with included 600w gold sfx PSU and included custom length cables

DISPLAY: 3x 20" AOC 1080p 60hz 4ms ,  32" RCA 1080p/60hz TV mounted above, all on a single arm.

 

Storage: C : 1TB WD Blue NVMe      D : 2TB Barracuda      E: 240GB Kingston V300 (scratch drive)

NAS: 240GB Kingston A400 + 6x 10+ year old 700GB Barracuda drives in my old FX8350+8GB DDR3 system

 

Logitech G15 1st Gen + Logitech G602 Wireless

Steam Controller +  Elite Series 2 controller + Logitech G29 Racing Wheel + Wingman Extreme Digital 3D Flight Stick

Sennheiser HD 4.40 Headphones + Pixel Buds 2 + Logitech Z213 2.1 Speakers

 

My Girlfriends Weeb-Ass Rig:

Razer Blade Pro 17 2020

10th Gen i7 10875H 8c/16t @5.1ghz 

17.3" 1080p 300Hz 100% sRGB, factory calibrated, 6mm bezel

RTX 2070 Max-Q 8GB

512GB generic NVMe

16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200Mhz

Wireless-AX201 (802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax), Bluetooth® 5.1, 2.5Gbit Ethernet

70.5 Whr Battery

Razer Huntsman Quartz, Razer Balistic Quartz, Razer Kraken Quartz Kitty Heaphones

*deep breath*

Razer Raptor 27" monitor, IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

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