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How do I boot the computer without a GPU?

lacek
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I need a computer to boot, I am not interested in what it would like to display on a monitor, which won't be attached. Which motherboards support this? I would prefer not to waste a PCIe slot on useless graphics. Is there a trick which would allow it? Are there reasonably cheap consumer oriented motherboards that would allow it? Would be great if they supported ECC RAM on Ryzen processors too 🙂
I have bought some $5 graphics card (Radeon 4350) which allows the computer to start, but I would like to use that PCIEx1 slot for other purposes.

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5 minutes ago, dilpickle said:

Consumer mobos don't boot without a graphics adapter. Either get a mobo and CPU with integrated graphics or start looking at server hardware.

In general I noticed that, but are there no exceptions?

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IPMI could allow this, but it'd be a motherboard thing. Usually found on server motherboards so they can be ran headless. @Electronics Wizardymight be able to help here more since it sounds like you're thinking server route with ECC anyways.

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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15 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

IPMI could allow this, but it'd be a motherboard thing. Usually found on server motherboards so they can be ran headless. @Electronics Wizardymight be able to help here more since it sounds like you're thinking server route with ECC anyways.

Actually I have constructed a mini-PC from old Asus B450M-A II motherboard I had in the box. It booted without video card.  Gigabyte's mobo doesn't boot. I am pretty sure Asus B450M-A  (first edition) doesn't boot.

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2 minutes ago, lacek said:

Actually I have constructed a mini-PC from old Asus B450M-A II motherboard I had in the box. It booted without video card.  Gigabyte's mobo doesn't boot. I am pretty sure Asus B450M-A  (first edition) doesn't boot.

What CPU are you using?

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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CPU i9-9900k, Motherboard, ASUS Rog Maximus Code XI, RAM, 48GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200 mhz (2x16)+(2x8) GPUs Asus ROG Strix 2070 8gb, PNY 1080, Nvidia 1080, Case Mining Frame, 2x Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB, PSU Corsair RM1000x and RM850x, Cooling Asus Rog Ryuo 240 with Noctua NF-12 fans

 

Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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7 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

What CPU are you using?

Ryzen 3 1200 AF.

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17 minutes ago, lacek said:

Asus B450M-A II motherboard I had in the box. It booted without video card.

Did it boot and output video? 

Regardless, this looks close to what you want. 

https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-Rack-X470D4U-Asrock-Motherboard/dp/B07PNFTPGB

Doesn't officially support Zen+, but apparently does and IPMI. Supports ECC as well. 

https://www.servethehome.com/asrock-rack-x470d4u-review-amd-ryzen-meet-server/

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

Project Hot Box

CPU 13900k, Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 4x16gb 5200 MHZ, GPU Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC, Case Fractal Pop Air XL, Storage Sabrent Rocket Q4 2tb, CORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR HX1000i, Cooling Corsair XC8 CPU block, Bykski GPU block, 360mm and 280mm radiator, Displays Odyssey G9, LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch,Keyboard Mountain Everest Max, Mouse Mountain Makalu 67, Sound AT2035, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Go XLR 

Oppbevaring

CPU i9-9900k, Motherboard, ASUS Rog Maximus Code XI, RAM, 48GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200 mhz (2x16)+(2x8) GPUs Asus ROG Strix 2070 8gb, PNY 1080, Nvidia 1080, Case Mining Frame, 2x Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB, PSU Corsair RM1000x and RM850x, Cooling Asus Rog Ryuo 240 with Noctua NF-12 fans

 

Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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23 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Did it boot and output video? 

Regardless, this looks close to what you want. 

https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-Rack-X470D4U-Asrock-Motherboard/dp/B07PNFTPGB

Doesn't officially support Zen+, but apparently does and IPMI. Supports ECC as well. 

https://www.servethehome.com/asrock-rack-x470d4u-review-amd-ryzen-meet-server/

It did boot, did not output video. Access the computer via the ethernet and/or serial port.

The serial port access is actually pretty cool, as the cable length may be pretty impressive, which is difficult/expensive to achieve with HDMI. It also works from very early stages of OS boot, so if network fails to work for some stupid reason, the serial port is there.  The motivation is actually to replace a graphic card with 10G lan, when I manage to buy a good cheap used 10G card 🙂


I will investigate this IMPI. At first glance sounds very useful. Thanks!

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