Is this normal behaviour for a Ryzen 7 5800X?

[WeedIsMySin]

This screen shot is me running around in Alexandria, in AC Origins. The most demanding city, in the most demanding game that i own.

 

Why does a stock 5800X boost to 4400 mhz? Also is this voltage too high??

 

I've seen it spike to as high as 85-86C for a split second before correcting itself back to the low 70's.

TBF only in this game and only when its loading a new area for example when i fast travel or a cutscene. Idk whatsup with cutscenes in this game but yea.

 

Usually in other games its in the high 60's mid 70's and these spikes are nowhere to be seen.

 

Its cooled with a Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB V2

 

It's built in a Asus Tuf GT501 and has a total of 6 fans.

 

GPU resfuses to go over 66C under full load. So airflow is good.

 

Should i undervolt it or cap the clock speeds at maybe 4000?

[Chris Pratt]

Those temps are nothing to worry about. Even at the peak of 86C, you're almost 10C away from it even worrying about thermal throttling.

 

As far as the clockspeed goes, I'm not even sure what your concern is there. It should be able to boost up to 4.7GHz stock (though that is single core and only on the fastest core). 4.4GHz is about what you'd expect to see for a multicore workload stock. Regardless, you want that as high as you can get it. It would make absolutely no sense whatsoever to lock it at 4GHZ. You might as well have just saved some money and got like a 3700X of something at that point.

 

You asked if the voltage is too high, but you didn't actually post the voltage. However, Ryzen should settle in around 1.35V during load, but it can spike as high as 1.4-1.5V, which is totally normal.

 

Long and short, you're fine. Not sure why you're freaking out about any of this.

[WeedIsMySin]

16 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

Those temps are nothing to worry about. Even at the peak of 86C, you're almost 10C away from it even worrying about thermal throttling.

 

As far as the clockspeed goes, I'm not even sure what your concern is there. It should be able to boost up to 4.7GHz stock (though that is single core and only on the fastest core). 4.4GHz is about what you'd expect to see for a multicore workload stock. Regardless, you want that as high as you can get it. It would make absolutely no sense whatsoever to lock it at 4GHZ. You might as well have just saved some money and got like a 3700X of something at that point.

 

You asked if the voltage is too high, but you didn't actually post the voltage. However, Ryzen should settle in around 1.35V during load, but it can spike as high as 1.4-1.5V, which is totally normal.

 

Long and short, you're fine. Not sure why you're freaking out about any of this.

[WeedIsMySin]

17 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

Those temps are nothing to worry about. Even at the peak of 86C, you're almost 10C away from it even worrying about thermal throttling.

 

As far as the clockspeed goes, I'm not even sure what your concern is there. It should be able to boost up to 4.7GHz stock (though that is single core and only on the fastest core). 4.4GHz is about what you'd expect to see for a multicore workload stock. Regardless, you want that as high as you can get it. It would make absolutely no sense whatsoever to lock it at 4GHZ. You might as well have just saved some money and got like a 3700X of something at that point.

 

You asked if the voltage is too high, but you didn't actually post the voltage. However, Ryzen should settle in around 1.35V during load, but it can spike as high as 1.4-1.5V, which is totally normal.

 

Long and short, you're fine. Not sure why you're freaking out about any of this.

Most i saw it use was 1,45 volt i think? So the spike to 86C is nothing to worry about aslong as its a spike and not actually sitting at that temp?

[Chris Pratt]

9 minutes ago, WeedIsMySin said:

Most i saw it use was 1,45 volt i think? So the spike to 86C is nothing to worry about aslong as its a spike and not actually sitting at that temp?

Even if it was sitting at that temp it wouldn't be an issue. It wouldn't be great, and you'd probably want to try to get it lower, but you'll still get full performance and nothing is going to be damaged. Just spiking there is definitely nothing to worry about.

[LogicalDrm]

-> Moved to CPUs, Motherboards and Memory

[SavageNeo]

seems normal to me. ryzen 7 5800x is hot, like 11900k hot cpu, so the cooler can struggle a bit.

 

[Areyn13]

As an owner of a 5800x, I also worried about my temps. Seeing temps spiking into the 80's and hitting 90c under high loads is apparently "by design" according to AMD, so nothing to really worry about there. I've sinced tinkered around with PBO settings in the bios as well as curve optimizer to lower my temps at the expense of around 2-4% performance just so i felt a little more at ease, but it's by no means necessary. Gaming temps around the 60-70c range is absolutely fine also, so don't worry yourself too much ^-^

[WeedIsMySin]

22 minutes ago, Areyn13 said:

As an owner of a 5800x, I also worried about my temps. Seeing temps spiking into the 80's and hitting 90c under high loads is apparently "by design" according to AMD, so nothing to really worry about there. I've sinced tinkered around with PBO settings in the bios as well as curve optimizer to lower my temps at the expense of around 2-4% performance just so i felt a little more at ease, but it's by no means necessary. Gaming temps around the 60-70c range is absolutely fine also, so don't worry yourself too much ^-^

Thanks, i feel alot better now.

[WeedIsMySin]

1 hour ago, Chris Pratt said:

Even if it was sitting at that temp it wouldn't be an issue. It wouldn't be great, and you'd probably want to try to get it lower, but you'll still get full performance and nothing is going to be damaged. Just spiking there is definitely nothing to worry about.

Thanks for responding. My mind is at ease now. I tend to worry about PC parts alot haha

[Chris Pratt]

15 minutes ago, WeedIsMySin said:

Thanks for responding. My mind is at ease now. I tend to worry about PC parts alot haha

That's fine. Modern components are really hard to kill, honestly. CPUs have many, many safety checks and protocols. If temps are too high, they'll throttle. If temps are still too high after throttling, they'll shutdown to protect themselves. They also won't allow too much voltage. If it's too high, they'll just shutdown. You'd have to go into BIOS and manually disable these checks (if the mobo even lets you) and then do something silly like manually set a voltage of 1.5V+ in order to damage anything. Anything short of that and it's basically impossible to cause any damage.

 

The same applies with virtually every other component in your system. GPUs, SSDs, etc. are all designed to throttle and then shutoff long before any actual damage occurs.

 

 

[jones177]

56 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

seems normal to me. ryzen 7 5800x is hot, like 11900k hot cpu, so the cooler can struggle a bit.

The 5800x is sort of hot but I think it is the cooler designs that are basically Intel that is causing it.

 

I have a 5800x and an i9 10900ks.

My 5800x only uses 128 watts max stock but the AIO fans are going nuts. It is basically a hot spot underneath the heat spreader.  

The i9 10900k idles 8c cooler than the 5800x at stock and it uses 220watts. Since it takes up more space underneath the heat spreader it is easier to cool.

 

2 hours ago, WeedIsMySin said:

This screen shot is me running around in Alexandria, in AC Origins. The most demanding city, in the most demanding game that i own.

 

Why does a stock 5800X boost to 4400 mhz? Also is this voltage too high??

 

I've seen it spike to as high as 85-86C for a split second before correcting itself back to the low 70's.

TBF only in this game and only when its loading a new area for example when i fast travel or a cutscene. Idk whatsup with cutscenes in this game but yea.

 

Usually in other games its in the high 60's mid 70's and these spikes are nowhere to be seen.

 

Its cooled with a Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB V2

 

It's built in a Asus Tuf GT501 and has a total of 6 fans.

 

GPU resfuses to go over 66C under full load. So airflow is good.

 

Should i undervolt it or cap the clock speeds at maybe 4000?

I use a 360mm AIO on my 5800x and running Odyssey or Origins it is screaming.

Mine runs Origins in the mid 60s and never(so far) goes out of the 60s gaming.

 

I went with a 360mm AIO since I read so many posts like yours before buying. I am now thinking that I should have tried a large air cooler first since it would be quiter with 2 140mm fans instead of 3 120mm fans. 

 

[WeedIsMySin]

4 hours ago, jones177 said:

The 5800x is sort of hot but I think it is the cooler designs that are basically Intel that is causing it.

 

I have a 5800x and an i9 10900ks.

My 5800x only uses 128 watts max stock but the AIO fans are going nuts. It is basically a hot spot underneath the heat spreader.  

The i9 10900k idles 8c cooler than the 5800x at stock and it uses 220watts. Since it takes up more space underneath the heat spreader it is easier to cool.

 

I use a 360mm AIO on my 5800x and running Odyssey or Origins it is screaming.

Mine runs Origins in the mid 60s and never(so far) goes out of the 60s gaming.

 

I went with a 360mm AIO since I read so many posts like yours before buying. I am now thinking that I should have tried a large air cooler first since it would be quiter with 2 140mm fans instead of 3 120mm fans. 

 

Yea CPU fan speed is kinda insane on this chip. Is it only spinning so fast for you in those 2 games?

 

I set the voltage to 1.29375 in Ryzen master and they are less noisy now. Also limiting the voltage to that value made my PC run cooler overall. Gone are those spikes into the 80's in ac origins even though the AMD guy said that its fine for this chip to run at 90C for hours on end, i dont like it. 

 

Im also willing to bet these 2 games are harder on the CPU then new games releasing 4 years from now. I think ubisoft really dropped the ball on these 2 titles. I think Valhalla runs much cooler. So atleast they changed.

 

 

[Lokiling]

Hmmm... should I avoid 5800x bc this heat issue? Get a 5600x or 5900x instead?
(I just watched a video stating the same problem of 5800x, runs too hot)

[WeedIsMySin]

44 minutes ago, Lokiling said:

Hmmm... should I avoid 5800x bc this heat issue? Get a 5600x or 5900x instead?
(I just watched a video stating the same problem of 5800x, runs too hot)

I changed my voltage to 1.29375. The heat spikes are gone. It also runs alot cooled in general. Fan speed is also alot less.

 

De default voltage is just too high. Like 1.4-1.5? Really? You need a really exotic cooler for voltages that high. Kinda makes sense it spikes and amd says its ok