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[SOLVED] Stuttering in every game

AndreyRGW

During gameplay I get occasional stuttering and frametime spikes about every 5-60 seconds. Almost every game I play has high fps, but every 5-30 seconds I get a stutter. It happens in every game, and even in benchmarks like Heaven and Valley. The stuttering started about 3 weeks ago, although it wasn't there before.

My PC:
GTX 1660
Ryzen 2600
16GB 2 sticks of ram 3000 CL16
Gigabyte B450M S2H Rev 1.0 Bios F61
PSU THERMALTAKE Smart 700W
SSD Smartbuy Jolt 480GB
HDD TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB
HDD Seagate BarraCuda 2TB

Temps under load:
GPU: 72c
CPU: 56c

Things I have tried

Hardware:
Unplugging everything except mouse and keyboard
Different DP/HDMI cable
Different PSU
Different graphics card (GTX 970)
Unplug USB 3.0 case front panel from motherboard
Swapped out the RAM modules.

Software:
Reinstall windows many times (Windows 11 22000.120, Win10 21H1, 21H2, LTSC 1809).
HAGS on/off
VSYNC on/off
NVIDIA LLM On/Off/Ultra
CPU/RAM/GPU Stock/Oc/Undervolting
Latest nvidia driver / old nvidia driver (458.36)
All background programs off.
All sorts of power plan settings (1Usmus, High Perf, Maximum Perf)
GameDVR Off

What should I do to make the stuttering stop? What could be the culprit here?

I apologize for the mistakes in the text, as I am not a native English speaker.

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Try disabling Game Mode, sometimes that causes issues. I had a very similar issue recently and it was caused by one my HDD's which was fixed by unplugging it.

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1 minute ago, Pixelfie said:

Try disabling Game Mode, sometimes that causes issues. I had a very similar issue recently and it was caused by one my HDD's which was fixed by unplugging it.

Okay, thanks, I'll give it a try and let you know.

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A screenshot from Task manager performance tab will help.

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5 minutes ago, Vishera said:

A screenshot from Task manager performance tab will help.

What exactly should I show? CPU, GPU, RAM? 

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CPU,RAM and storage devices

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This tool might shed some light as to where the problem originates. https://www.resplendence.com/latencymon

That said, I suspect an issue with either the SSD or HDD. A failing storage device can throw so many interrupts that it halts the CPU for fractions of a second giving the "stutter".

 

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What is your desktop background like? A slideshow can cause these kind of issues

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Just now, Alvin853 said:

What is your desktop background like? A slideshow can cause these kind of issues

I have a static wallpaper.

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5 minutes ago, StDragon said:

This tool might shed some light as to where the problem originates. https://www.resplendence.com/latencymon

That said, I suspect an issue with either the SSD or HDD. A failing storage device can throw so many interrupts that it halts the CPU for fractions of a second giving the "stutter".

 

 

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2 minutes ago, StDragon said:

This tool might shed some light as to where the problem originates. https://www.resplendence.com/latencymon

That said, I suspect an issue with either the SSD or HDD. A failing storage device can throw so many interrupts that it halts the CPU for fractions of a second giving the "stutter".

 

Even a healthy HDD can do that if it's active time is at 100% or very close to it

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ram XMP on? mayby try to monitor cpu usage, gpu usage, disk usage, ram usage etc while playing. 

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5 minutes ago, AndreyRGW said:

 

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How are those during gameplay?

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6 minutes ago, Vishera said:

How are those during gameplay?

 

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8 minutes ago, AndreyRGW said:

Oh, the new update for windows 11 is here, maybe it will fix all the problems.

I updated windows and..... Nothing changed.

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23 minutes ago, AndreyRGW said:

 

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You need to leave it running minimized to collect data while you play a game. As the stutters occur, that should be captured in latency. Once you've collected enough stats, you can press the stop button and review Main, Stats, Processes and Drivers

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Wait you run Windows 11? That's still beta software, it has a lot of bugs and instabilities. Go back to Windows 10, at this time Windows 11 isn't that different apart from the UI

 

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1 minute ago, StDragon said:

You need to leave it running minimized to collect data while you play a game. As the stutters occur, that should be captured in latency. Once you've collected enough stats, you can press the stop button and review Main, Stats, Processes and Drivers

Okay, I'll check and send you screenshots.

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Just now, Pixelfie said:

Wait you run Windows 11? That's still beta software, it has a lot of bugs and instabilities. Go back to Windows 10, at this time Windows 11 isn't that different apart from the UI

 

I have absolutely identical stuttering on Windows 10 (21H1, 21H2, LTSC 1809)

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1 minute ago, AndreyRGW said:

Okay, I'll check and send you screenshots.

Under "Processes", sort by "Hard pagefaults".

Under "Drivers", sort by ISR count, DPC count, and Highest execution (ms).

 

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7 minutes ago, AndreyRGW said:

I have absolutely identical stuttering on Windows 10 (21H1, 21H2, LTSC 1809)

Try disabling the paging file for the HDD's. Follow that guide and only select a paging file for the C drive. 

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1 minute ago, Pixelfie said:

Try disabling the paging file for the HDD's. Follow that guide and only select a paging file for the C drive. 

I already have the paging file for the hdd disabled.

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