Lower FPS with a better card?

[Phobosy]

So i recently upgraded from my 1070Ti to a 3070Ti and my GPU usage is constantly hovering around 50-60% and my FPS in some cases is lower than with my 1070-Ti does anybody know why? All my drivers are up to date.

[emosun]

did you ddu the old drivers?

[Phobosy]

Just now, emosun said:

did you ddu the old drivers?

Yep I did a fresh install of the drivers I always do fresh driver installs whenever there is a new driver update

[xg32]

3 minutes ago, Phobosy said:

So i recently upgraded from my 1070Ti to a 3070Ti and my GPU usage is constantly hovering around 50-60% and my FPS in some cases is lower than with my 1070-Ti does anybody know why? All my drivers are up to date.

3070ti uses more cpu per frame than the 1070ti, whats up cpu

[emosun]

Just now, xg32 said:

3070ti uses more cpu per frame than the 1070ti,

never heard that one before , is it driver overhead?

[Phobosy]

Just now, xg32 said:

3070ti uses more cpu per frame than the 1070ti, whats up cpu

i9-9900K @ 4.9Ghz

[emosun]

Just now, Phobosy said:

i9-9900K @ 4.9Ghz

remove the overclock if you need to do diagnostics. only return the overclock when diagnostics are done

[Phobosy]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

remove the overclock if you need to do diagnostics. only return the overclock when diagnostics are done

This may sound strange but could it possibly be a monitor bottleneck? if those exist?

[emosun]

6 minutes ago, Phobosy said:

This may sound strange but could it possibly be a monitor bottleneck? if those exist?

if its the same monitor then no.

As stated you never overclock when doing hardware diagnostics so remove the overclock first , then do diagnostics

[cacoe]

Has your PSU got the juice?

[Phobosy]

13 minutes ago, emosun said:

if its the same monitor then no.

As stated you never overclock when doing hardware diagnostics so remove the overclock first , then do diagnostics

I just tested it without the overclock and its the same issue

[Cool_Evlo]

3 minutes ago, cacoe said:

Has your PSU got the juice?

I dont think an insufficient PSU wattage would cause the GPU to be at higher usage than it should

 

29 minutes ago, Phobosy said:

So i recently upgraded from my 1070Ti to a 3070Ti and my GPU usage is constantly hovering around 50-60% and my FPS in some cases is lower than with my 1070-Ti does anybody know why? All my drivers are up to date.

Check task manager, it allows you to see what is causing it. (CTRL+SHIFT+ESC) 

Edit: after you open it you will likely have to click "More Details" at the bottom to see it.

[cacoe]

Might not be clocking up to full speed so it will appear that the usage of the current clock (which is lower than maximum) is high, but also overall lower FPS because of that.

[Beyond_The_Berm]

sounds like you induced some CPU necking with the added gpu power?  Before it was well balanced now the cpu cannot keep up with the gpu?  Not sure if accurate but..

 

EDIT:

 

Nah, i9-9900k shouldnt be much any issue

[Falkentyne]

1 hour ago, Phobosy said:

So i recently upgraded from my 1070Ti to a 3070Ti and my GPU usage is constantly hovering around 50-60% and my FPS in some cases is lower than with my 1070-Ti does anybody know why? All my drivers are up to date.

You're not running Fortnite in DX12 mode, are you?

 

You said you did a *clean driver install*.  Did you use Wagnard's Display Driver Uninstaller?  You didn't clarify that you did.  Clicking "Perform a clean install" in Nvidia advanced installation is not the same thing.  I've seen many people reply "Yes I clean installed" when asked specifically if they used Wagnard's DDU program, when in fact, when pressured, they either admit they did NOT, or they refuse to touch DDU with a 10 foot pole because they're afraid third party tools will infect their computers with Windows 11...

 

First thing to check is your PCIE Link speed.

Run GPU-Z (2.40.0) and check the link speed.  It should say X16 1.1 at idle and x16 3.0 at full load.  There is a 'stress tester' (actually a quite useful program for checking 8 pin power draw balancing!!) in GPU-Z, run that and then quickly alt tab and see if your PCIE link speed is x16 3.0.  If it's X8 or X4 you have a serious problem to deal with.

 

The second thing is, sometimes there is a certain sequence you need to 'fix' problems with the Nvidia drivers and some strange built in presets.  Found this on overclock.net.

 

1) Reset MSI After overclock profiles to default.  Hit apply.  Delete all saved profiles from MSI Afterburner.  Close the program.  Uninstall MSI Afterburner.  Reboot.

2) Run the current version of the Nvidia driver install that you currently have on (even though your drivers are already installed).  Click advanced, then click "perform a clean install"

Reboot.

3) Uninstall the drivers from add/remove programs.  Don't reboot yet.  Download latest version of Wagnard's display driver uninstaller from Guru3d or wagnardsoft's website.

Run it and extract the files to a temporary folder (but do not run the actual uninstaller itself).  Then download the Nvidia drivers you are planning to install (dch or regular, your choice).  Reboot when finished.

4) After this next reboot, hold down left shift while clicking "restart windows" and choose advanced options, then reboot and choose safe mode when prompted.  Unplug Ethernet / Internet/wifi or turn off your router.

5) in safe mode, run the actual DDU program itself (remember the location you extracted the files to?), choose Nvidia --> Clean and restart.  Reboot by itself.

6) keep your internet unplugged.  Run the installer for your Nvidia drivers.  When it finishes, reboot again (important) and then plug in your ethernet or router/wifi.

 

*Finally*

Assuming you did ALL of this, your PCIE Link speed and bandwidth are all checked out, and you even did all my meticulous steps above and you're still having strange FPS issues?

 

Run MSI Afterburner, press Control F to bring up the v/f curve, and then click the 1.062v voltage point on the graph once, make sure you click the exact point and the mhz speed does NOT change to "curve"--if it does, exit out and restart AB and this time watch your pixels!--, then on the 1.062v voltage point, hit "apply" (again make sure you click the precise dot location.  If you're even one pixel off, the MSI clock will change to "curve" which means you messed up--restart AB if that happens)..  The card should now be running at 1950 mhz or faster.  Now test your game and see if your FPS is any better.

(What does this do?  This forces the card into "P0" power state, so it runs at full speed, instead of at something like 700 mhz which I've seen a few times myself).