RTX 3080 TI low GPU Usage and low FPS

[Agero]

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K
GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 ti XC3 Ultra
PSU: EVGA Supernova 750w
Mainboard: ASUS Prime z490-a
RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengance LPX  3600Mhz
OS: Windows 10 Pro

First off, excuse my English.
I upgraded my GTX1080 to a 3080ti and was expecting a boost in performance, but so far my experience has been very frustrating and disappointing
I have been struggling with this for the past few days.
I tried many things, but nothing really seems to work, and I just don't know what the problem could be.

 

I play on a 1080p 240hz monitor, I play a few selected games on my 4k TV.

Games appear to run fine in 4k, but not in 1080p.

I have this Problem where I'm pretty sure I do not get the Fps I should in most games:
For example 

CSGO: 200 fps

Apex: 200- 220 fps

Warzone: 110-130 fps

Battlefield 4: 160 fps

Some off these games are set to low or have dsll enabled, but there is no noticeable improvement, sometimes maybe about 20fps.
There are videos on YouTube with the same or very similar gpu and cpu setups that have way better performance, some get like 80fps more.

 

The only game that has similar performance to videos is Cyberpunk.

Some things I have tried:

I wiped my system clean and installed windows and all drivers from new,

Uninstalling Drivers with DDU,

Performance settings in windows and nvidia,

 

Gpu Temp is around: 80 °C 

CPU about 60 °C

I hope someone might be able to help me out
Will provide any information that is needed.

 

Thank you!

[Tigerleon]

9 minutes ago, Agero said:

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K
GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 ti XC3 Ultra
PSU: EVGA Supernova 750w
Mainboard: ASUS Prime z490-a
RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengance LPX  3600Mhz
OS: Windows 10 Pro

First off, excuse my English.
I upgraded my GTX1080 to a 3080ti and was expecting a boost in performance, but so far my experience has been very frustrating and disappointing
I have been struggling with this for the past few days.
I tried many things, but nothing really seems to work, and I just don't know what the problem could be.

 

I play on a 1080p 240hz monitor, I play a few selected games on my 4k TV.

Games appear to run fine in 4k, but not in 1080p.

I have this Problem where I'm pretty sure I do not get the Fps I should in most games:
For example 

CSGO: 200 fps

Apex: 200- 220 fps

Warzone: 110-130 fps

Battlefield 4: 160 fps

Some off these games are set to low or have dsll enabled, but there is no noticeable improvement, sometimes maybe about 20fps.
There are videos on YouTube with the same or very similar gpu and cpu setups that have way better performance, some get like 80fps more.

 

The only game that has similar performance to videos is Cyberpunk.

Some things I have tried:

I wiped my system clean and installed windows and all drivers from new,

Uninstalling Drivers with DDU,

Performance settings in windows and nvidia,

 

Gpu Temp is around: 80 °C 

CPU about 60 °C

I hope someone might be able to help me out
Will provide any information that is needed.

 

Thank you!

Do you have XMP enabled? 

[Agero]

Yes XMP is enabled

[Montana One-Six]

47 minutes ago, Agero said:

The only game that has similar performance to videos is Cyberpunk.

In 4k or 1080p ?

 

What FPS do you get in 4K?

 

What is your GPU utilization and power usage when playing 1080p and 4K?

 

Are you using 2 different pcie power cables for your GPU?

 

[Agero]

21 minutes ago, Montana16 said:

In 4k or 1080p ?

 

What FPS do you get in 4K?

 

What is your GPU utilization and power usage when playing 1080p and 4K?

 

Are you using 2 different pcie power cables for your GPU?

 

Cyberpunk seems to run well in both 1080p and 4K.

 

Cyberpunk:

In 4K without RTX around 45-50fps, with quality dsll 60-80fps, the power usage is running at 99%

In 1080p it depends on the area, but it's around 90-120fps without RTX and dsll, gpu usage is around 85%

 

In CSGO gpu usage is around 40%

In Battlefield 4 60%

 

 

I'm using 2 different pcie cables for my GPU.

[Montana One-Six]

15 minutes ago, Agero said:

In CSGO gpu usage is around 40%

In Battlefield 4 60%

Yeah CSGO usage is like that. Back when I played it my 980ti was at 50% but I was getting higher FPS at max settings than that which is strange.

 

Have you tried using higher settings at 1080p to see if that changes FPS in some way?

Could be that you are too much limited by your CPU at low settings.

[Agero]

Also tried it with high settings, but the fps stay about the same. No real difference to low settings

[jones177]

When new GPUs come out older games sometimes under perform and it takes a few driver revisions to get them where they should be. New games usually run fine. 

 

Nvidia tests their GPUs with synthetic benches so if you do well in them   

To see if your GPU is up to speed use Port Royal or Time Spy. They show average score so you are just not seeing top scores. 

 

For CPU use Cinebench R 20.

 

I have a EVGA XC3 Ultra. Right now it is pared with a 5800x. It was under performing so I put an overclock on the 5800x and help a lot.

8 minutes ago, Agero said:

Cyberpunk seems to run well in both 1080p and 4K.

 

Cyberpunk:

In 4K without RTX around 45-50fps, with quality dsll 60-80fps, the power usage is running at 99%

In 1080p it depends on the area, but it's around 90-120fps without RTX and dsll, gpu usage is around 85%

 

In CSGO gpu usage is around 40%

In Battlefield 4 60%

 

 

I'm using 2 different pcie cables for my GPU.

There is a problem with Cyberpunk. I get the exact same frames with RT on that I did with a 2080 ti so only a gain with RT off with the 3080 ti.

By contrast my raytraced frames doubled in the game Control. 

2 minutes ago, Agero said:

Also tried it with high settings, but the fps stay about the same. No real difference to low settings

I get the same thing so it is the game.

 

 

 

[Agero]

5 minutes ago, jones177 said:

When new GPUs come out older games sometimes under perform and it takes a few driver revisions to get them where they should be. New games usually run fine. 

 

Nvidia tests their GPUs with synthetic benches so if you do well in them   

To see if your GPU is up to speed use Port Royal or Time Spy. They show average score so you are just not seeing top scores. 

 

For CPU use Cinebench R 20.

 

I have a EVGA XC3 Ultra. Right now it is pared with a 5800x. It was under performing so I put an overclock on the 5800x and help a lot.

There is a problem with Cyberpunk. I get the exact same frames with RT on that I did with a 2080 ti so only a gain with RT off with the 3080 ti.

By contrast my raytraced frames doubled in the game Control. 

I get the same thing so it is the game.

 

 

 

Hi, i will try the benchmakrs,

I just don't understand how people with the same cpu and gpu can get about 500+ fps in csgo while I'm stuck at about 200 fps.

[jones177]

14 minutes ago, Agero said:

Hi, i will try the benchmakrs,

I just don't understand how people with the same cpu and gpu can get about 500+ fps in csgo while I'm stuck at about 200 fps.

I have a i9 9900k and it has about the same performance as an i7 10700k. Right now it is at stock but for most of its life it had a 5ghz all core overclock. 

5ghz is a performance plateau for these CPUs and it shows up most on 1080p gaming.

 

This is something up.

I just tested csgo and I average about 350fps with everything turned up.  

[Agero]

10 minutes ago, jones177 said:

I have a i9 9900k and it has about the same performance as an i7 10700k. Right now it is at stock but for most of its life it had a 5ghz all core overclock. 

5ghz is a performance plateau for these CPUs and it shows up most on 1080p gaming.

 

This is something up.

I just tested csgo and I average about 350fps with everything turned up.  

Yeah, I really wish I would know what the problem is and how to fix it, it's just so frustrating nothing seems to work...

[jones177]

Just now, Agero said:

Yeah, I really wish I would know what the problem is and how to fix it, it's just so frustrating nothing seems to work...

Find out what is under performing first.

 

At 1080p it is usually the CPU.

 

Look up Cinebench r15 and R20 with an i7 10700k stock on YouTube and then run the test yourself to compare. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Agero]

52 minutes ago, jones177 said:

Find out what is under performing first.

 

At 1080p it is usually the CPU.

 

Look up Cinebench r15 and R20 with an i7 10700k stock on YouTube and then run the test yourself to compare. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So I ran TimeSpy, cinebench 15 and 20.

My TimeSpy Benchmark:https://www.3dmark.com/spy/21303098
In cinebench 15 my score is: 1809 Benchmarks on YouTube have about 2000
In cinebench 20 my score is: 3407 Benchmarks on YouTube have about 4800

 

So is my CPU the problem? 

[jones177]

10 hours ago, Agero said:

So I ran TimeSpy, cinebench 15 and 20.

My TimeSpy Benchmark:https://www.3dmark.com/spy/21303098
In cinebench 15 my score is: 1809 Benchmarks on YouTube have about 2000
In cinebench 20 my score is: 3407 Benchmarks on YouTube have about 4800

 

So is my CPU the problem? 

Yes.

My i9 9900k stock did 4786 in R20 last night.

 

Your Time Spy Graphic score is fine so your GPU is not a dud.

 

Use HWiNFO64 while you are using R20 to see what what your i7 is running at.  Then you may have to do a post in the CPU forum to get the attention of i7 10700k owners.  

 

What I can tell from the boost chart is that you should be at 4.7ghz all cores running R20. That is what my i9 9900k does.

 

[Montana One-Six]

12 hours ago, Agero said:

So I ran TimeSpy, cinebench 15 and 20.

My TimeSpy Benchmark:https://www.3dmark.com/spy/21303098
In cinebench 15 my score is: 1809 Benchmarks on YouTube have about 2000
In cinebench 20 my score is: 3407 Benchmarks on YouTube have about 4800

 

So is my CPU the problem? 

Looking at those benchmarks it seems like your GPU is doing great.

 

Your CPU on the other hand is under-performing. Have you changed something in bios or somewhere else that changes CPU behavior? Windows on max performance?

[Agero]

1 hour ago, jones177 said:

Yes.

My i9 9900k stock did 4786 in R20 last night.

 

Your Time Spy Graphic score is fine so your GPU is not a dud.

 

Use HWiNFO64 while you are using R20 to see what what your i7 is running at.  Then you may have to do a post in the CPU forum to get the attention of i7 10700k owners.  

 

What I can tell from the boost chart is that you should be at 4.7ghz all cores running R20. That is what my i9 9900k does.

 

I tried running cinebench 20 while having HWiNFO64 running in the background. But my scores are totally different now without changing anything in the system.
I now have a score of 4850 in cinebench20. There is still no change in performance in any games tho.

[Agero]

1 hour ago, Montana16 said:

Looking at those benchmarks it seems like your GPU is doing great.

 

Your CPU on the other hand is under-performing. Have you changed something in bios or somewhere else that changes CPU behavior? Windows on max performance?

The only thing I did in BIOS is enabling the XMP Profile, nothing else.
Before my clean install of windows, I had the AI Overclocking on, but everything should be on Stock settings right now.

Windows Power plan is set to max performance.

[jones177]

13 minutes ago, Agero said:

I tried running cinebench 20 while having HWiNFO64 running in the background. But my scores are totally different now without changing anything in the system.
I now have a score of 4850 in cinebench20. There is still no change in performance in any games tho.

With that score you know that your CPU is fine but it is not fine all the time so that is either Motherboard/bios issue or external software issue. 

 

With a score of 4850 your CPU was at 4.7ghz all cores for the entire bench. When it ran the low score it probably 

dropped to 3.8ghz.

 

Run the single core bench as well(file, advanced bench mark).  All cores but one should be at 4.7ghz and one should boost higher.

 

For csgo use the watch match feature and run the game in a window so you can monitor it with HWiNFO64 to see if it is dropping boost.

 

Make sure you have the Intel power limits disabled on the board and watch videos on settings.

This is a good one.

 

 

[Agero]

On 7/4/2021 at 6:58 PM, jones177 said:

With that score you know that your CPU is fine but it is not fine all the time so that is either Motherboard/bios issue or external software issue. 

 

With a score of 4850 your CPU was at 4.7ghz all cores for the entire bench. When it ran the low score it probably 

dropped to 3.8ghz.

 

Run the single core bench as well(file, advanced bench mark).  All cores but one should be at 4.7ghz and one should boost higher.

 

For csgo use the watch match feature and run the game in a window so you can monitor it with HWiNFO64 to see if it is dropping boost.

 

Make sure you have the Intel power limits disabled on the board and watch videos on settings.

This is a good one.

 

 

So I tried these things out, but couldn't tell any difference in performance. so I decided to open up my case unplug everything, remove the cpu etc. after putting everything back I'm getting better performance in games than before. GPU usage is still on the lower side tho compared to some videos online.

[jones177]

4 hours ago, Agero said:

. GPU usage is still on the lower side tho compared to some videos online.

Try overclocking.

All my Intel CPUs and my 5800x are overclocked when playing games with the exception of the 19 10900k. It used Thermal velocity boost to hit 5.3ghz on a single core.

 

I am even overclocking the XC3 Ultra so to runs like a 3090. 

I use Heaven for this since it uses very little CPU.

 

This is what it looks like. This is a gaming overclock so fans stay at stock.

Later I will add more to the core but I like to use a GPU overclock for a few weeks before I up it.

 

[Agero]

8 hours ago, jones177 said:

Try overclocking.

All my Intel CPUs and my 5800x are overclocked when playing games with the exception of the 19 10900k. It used Thermal velocity boost to hit 5.3ghz on a single core.

 

I am even overclocking the XC3 Ultra so to runs like a 3090. 

I use Heaven for this since it uses very little CPU.

 

This is what it looks like. This is a gaming overclock so fans stay at stock.

Later I will add more to the core but I like to use a GPU overclock for a few weeks before I up it.

 

I will try it out as soon as I get home from work. But I guess I can at least assume that my GPU and CPU are working properly and that there nothing wrong with them, right? Otherwise, I still have the option to return the Card with no questions asked for another 2 weeks and get a new one. If it is the CPU, I would have to buy a new one. I would like to avoid both, of course... I just don't want to be stuck with a faulty GPU that cost me 1.400€

 

Playing in 4k the GPU Usage is now always at 100% (tested in different games) and performance is comparable to videos online.

I understand that in 1080p, usage won't be 100% all the time. But the fps and GPU usage difference in 1080p is just so huge sometimes compared to other videos. I just can't shake the feeling of that something is causing a problem that won't let me utilize the full potential of my PC in 1080p gaming.  

I also read that RAM could also be an issue. Currently, my ram is installed in the slots A2 & B2. When I tried to boot my system with the RAM in the A1 & B1 slots with XMP enabled, my system wouldn't boot and would send me back to bios. Changing slots fixed it. Could this be a potential sign of a problem with the RAM or the Motherboard?

[jones177]

2 hours ago, Agero said:

I will try it out as soon as I get home from work. But I guess I can at least assume that my GPU and CPU are working properly and that there nothing wrong with them, right? Otherwise, I still have the option to return the Card with no questions asked for another 2 weeks and get a new one. If it is the CPU, I would have to buy a new one. I would like to avoid both, of course... I just don't want to be stuck with a faulty GPU that cost me 1.400€

They are both up to speed.

 

Look at other things.

 

Prime is one of the best budget motherboards.

I have done settings in the bios by mistake before so I sometimes set my motherboards to default and reapply setting just in case. 

 

You PSU is not what I would use.

I had trouble with 850 watts with my EVGA FTW3 Ultra 2080 tis that use 372 watts max and replaced them with 1000 watt PSUs. My EVGA XC 2080 ti was fine with 850 watts but it uses 25 watts less.  The XC3 3080 ti uses 350 watts stock and 366 watts overclocked.

The symptom for not enough power is that the GPU sometimes will not turn on unless the PSU is turned off and turned on again. 

 

If the games are on a SSD they will run fine but on a HDD some games will have low frames and it will look like the CPU. 

To give you an idea, Assassin's Creed Odyssey on a HDD averaged 64fps at 4k ultra settings. On a SATA SSD it ran at 88fps. That was the only game I tested but it was enough for me to stop using HDDs.

 

Internet speed.

All the games you mentioned that are under performing are online. The game you think is ok is not.

Test more single player games to see if they run like CP2077 or csgo.

 

Antivirus.

one of the reasons I use multiple computers is that antivirus can get in the way of performance so my gaming computer only use windows defender. My banking computer use G DATA.

Easy to test. Switch off any antivirus while gaming online. The Antivirus may see the stream as a download and check it.

 

2 hours ago, Agero said:

Playing in 4k the GPU Usage is now always at 100% (tested in different games) and performance is comparable to videos online.

I understand that in 1080p, usage won't be 100% all the time. But the fps and GPU usage difference in 1080p is just so huge sometimes compared to other videos. I just can't shake the feeling of that something is causing a problem that won't let me utilize the full potential of my PC in 1080p gaming.  

I also read that RAM could also be an issue. Currently, my ram is installed in the slots A2 & B2. When I tried to boot my system with the RAM in the A1 & B1 slots with XMP enabled, my system wouldn't boot and would send me back to bios. Changing slots fixed it. Could this be a potential sign of a problem with the RAM or the Motherboard?

If the ram is not using XMP in the slots A1 and B1 you should have returned the board.

That is what I did with my first Hero XII Z490. 

This is common with ASUS boards and they never run right.

 

The first board that I had with the issue was my ASUS Z170 Pro I bought for one of my i7 6700ks. I had 2 of these and one could not use XMP and the other could. The one that could not never ran right and was replaced by a Hero VIII.

 

The reason why is that Windows can write errors to ram that can may cause crashes and will eventually trash Windows. I never played an online game with that board so I don't know how it would have done. It took almost 2 years before the board became unusable.

 

I have learned not to try to "fix" motherboards. I return 1 in ever 3 I buy.

 

Low CPU usage at 1080p is normal.

Here is GTA5 at Ultra on my i7 8086k/2080 ti setup. Only 45% at 1080p and 63% at 1440p. Only 4k uses all the GPU. Notice that my frames are about the same at 1080p and 1440p as well. It is the same with RDR 2. Some game engines are like that. I record the benches with GeForce to compare. 

 

 

 

 

[Montana One-Six]

1 hour ago, jones177 said:

The XC3 3080 ti uses 350 watts stock and 366 watts overclocked.

In Reality it uses more than that. Even the 3080ti FE gets above 350 in gaming with spikes above 400Watt. So its save to assume that the XC3 probably does the same if not more.

6 hours ago, Agero said:

I also read that RAM could also be an issue. Currently, my ram is installed in the slots A2 & B2. When I tried to boot my system with the RAM in the A1 & B1 slots with XMP enabled, my system wouldn't boot and would send me back to bios. Changing slots fixed it. Could this be a potential sign of a problem with the RAM or the Motherboard?

Which is correct. According to ASUS you should install your RAM in A2 and B2 if you only have two modules.

 

Does your board detect RAM in the other slots (A1 and B1)? Can you boot without XMP enabled in these slots?

 

6 hours ago, Agero said:

Playing in 4k the GPU Usage is now always at 100% (tested in different games) and performance is comparable to videos online.

I understand that in 1080p, usage won't be 100% all the time. But the fps and GPU usage difference in 1080p is just so huge sometimes compared to other videos. I just can't shake the feeling of that something is causing a problem that won't let me utilize the full potential of my PC in 1080p gaming.  

I think your GPU is fine. If it only happens when CPU bound it probably is a CPU related problem, which means Motherboard and RAM could also be part of the problem.

 

[Agero]

15 hours ago, jones177 said:

They are both up to speed.

 

Look at other things.

 

Prime is one of the best budget motherboards.

I have done settings in the bios by mistake before so I sometimes set my motherboards to default and reapply setting just in case. 

 

You PSU is not what I would use.

I had trouble with 850 watts with my EVGA FTW3 Ultra 2080 tis that use 372 watts max and replaced them with 1000 watt PSUs. My EVGA XC 2080 ti was fine with 850 watts but it uses 25 watts less.  The XC3 3080 ti uses 350 watts stock and 366 watts overclocked.

The symptom for not enough power is that the GPU sometimes will not turn on unless the PSU is turned off and turned on again. 

 

If the games are on a SSD they will run fine but on a HDD some games will have low frames and it will look like the CPU. 

To give you an idea, Assassin's Creed Odyssey on a HDD averaged 64fps at 4k ultra settings. On a SATA SSD it ran at 88fps. That was the only game I tested but it was enough for me to stop using HDDs.

 

Internet speed.

All the games you mentioned that are under performing are online. The game you think is ok is not.

Test more single player games to see if they run like CP2077 or csgo.

 

Antivirus.

one of the reasons I use multiple computers is that antivirus can get in the way of performance so my gaming computer only use windows defender. My banking computer use G DATA.

Easy to test. Switch off any antivirus while gaming online. The Antivirus may see the stream as a download and check it.

 

So I guess I'm going to pick up a 1000Watt PSU for now. Was able to get my hands on a Motherboard and new RAM to see if that could be the cause of the problem. The new motherboard also has pcie-4, read that the difference between 3 and 4 isn't so huge now, and it shouldn't impact performance, but I'm happy to try out anything. If the problem still consists after this, the only positive thing I get out of it is that I saved some money I guess...    Probably also going to pick up a 1000Watt PSU later this week.

Right now, I'm only using SSDs on my system. So I guess there should be no problems there.

Don't know if internet speed is the problem, I have a 300Mbits Internet connection and never had any problems with it so far.
I also tested Singleplayer games like Horizon Zero Dawn, Far Cry 5, Death Stranding. But fps differences were more or less quite huge in 1080p.
Take Horizon for instance, 1080p Fps where from 70 to 110, In 4K 75-80, in a Video with a comparable setup the fps were from 1080p - 90 - 140fps, 4k - 75-85 fps.
I always make sure to test in the same areas as in the videos.

I also tried out to Overclock my GPU but could only tell difference in performance in 4k Horizon got and additional 5fps. In 1080p, I couldn't really tell a difference.
But the system seemed to be stable so far.

As Antivirus I also only run Windows Defender 

 

15 hours ago, jones177 said:

If the ram is not using XMP in the slots A1 and B1 you should have returned the board.

That is what I did with my first Hero XII Z490. 

This is common with ASUS boards and they never run right.

 

The first board that I had with the issue was my ASUS Z170 Pro I bought for one of my i7 6700ks. I had 2 of these and one could not use XMP and the other could. The one that could not never ran right and was replaced by a Hero VIII.

 

The reason why is that Windows can write errors to ram that can may cause crashes and will eventually trash Windows. I never played an online game with that board so I don't know how it would have done. It took almost 2 years before the board became unusable.

 

I have learned not to try to "fix" motherboards. I return 1 in ever 3 I buy.

 

Low CPU usage at 1080p is normal.

Here is GTA5 at Ultra on my i7 8086k/2080 ti setup. Only 45% at 1080p and 63% at 1440p. Only 4k uses all the GPU. Notice that my frames are about the same at 1080p and 1440p as well. It is the same with RDR 2. Some game engines are like that. I record the benches with GeForce to compare. 

I'll see how it goes with the new RAM and Motherboard. In nothing changes, ill send them back.

The only weird thing that happened yesterday was that I was changing from my 4K TV back to my 1080p Monitor in Horizon to compare fps and GPU usage. I used the in game select monitor option turned off my TV, turned on my Monitor, and it only showed a Black screen with different small different colored *blocks? / pixels?*. I had to restart my pc because nothing was responding. Was that just an unlucky occurrence because I switched Screens to fast and turned off my TV off mid-change or is this a potential sign of something not working properly?

[Agero]

14 hours ago, Montana16 said:

Which is correct. According to ASUS you should install your RAM in A2 and B2 if you only have two modules.

 

Does your board detect RAM in the other slots (A1 and B1)? Can you boot without XMP enabled in these slots?

 

The Ram was detected I was able to boot without XMP on A1 and B1 

 

14 hours ago, Montana16 said:

I think your GPU is fine. If it only happens when CPU bound it probably is a CPU related problem, which means Motherboard and RAM could also be part of the problem.

I hope It's either the RAM or the Motherboard and not the CPU