Need Motherboard Expert Opinion

[eskpt1]

Looking for guidance. I am building a system in which I would like to take advantage of the additional PCI 4 lanes. That leads me to the x570. I have all the hardware on hand except the motherboard. Should I wait for the release of the x570 refresh board to become available or should I purchase one of the high end boards currently available. I am leaning towards the Asus crosshair viii Hero. 
I appreciate your advice. 
 

Thank You 

[Dedayog]

What CPU?  Why do you think you need a $400 motherboard?  Lesser boards can do the PCIe 4 thing.

[jaslion]

5 minutes ago, eskpt1 said:

Looking for guidance. I am building a system in which I would like to take advantage of the additional PCI 4 lanes. That leads me to the x570. I have all the hardware on hand except the motherboard. Should I wait for the release of the x570 refresh board to become available or should I purchase one of the high end boards currently available. I am leaning towards the Asus crosshair viii Hero. 
I appreciate your advice. 
 

Thank You 

There is rarely if ever a case you need a 400$ board over a 150$ board that does everything the 400$ board does.

[Freakwise]

5 minutes ago, eskpt1 said:

Looking for guidance. I am building a system in which I would like to take advantage of the additional PCI 4 lanes. That leads me to the x570. I have all the hardware on hand except the motherboard. Should I wait for the release of the x570 refresh board to become available or should I purchase one of the high end boards currently available. I am leaning towards the Asus crosshair viii Hero. 
I appreciate your advice. 
 

Thank You 

there is several question i would like to ask

what cpu?

what hardware youre going to do with the additional pcie 4.0 lanes

what use case this going to do?

[Jurrunio]

X570 Refresh? That rumor is so old and nothing came out so far, I doubt we'll ever see it with AM4 getting replaced for next gen of CPUs.

 

B550 has 20 lanes of PCIe 4.0 available and also ranges from mid range to high end. Unless you really have a lot of PCIe cards to run you dont need X570.

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

X570 Refresh? That rumor is so old and nothing came out so far, I doubt we'll ever see it with AM4 getting replaced for next gen of CPUs.

Unless you count the announcements of X570S motherboards from the major AIBs. The silent chipset is neat but doesn't really bring anything new to the table so OP shouldn't hold their breath.

 

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

B550 has 20 lanes of PCIe 4.0 available and also ranges from mid range to high end. Unless you really have a lot of PCIe cards to run you dont need X570

This^

[Chris Pratt]

39 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

X570 Refresh? That rumor is so old and nothing came out so far, I doubt we'll ever see it with AM4 getting replaced for next gen of CPUs.

It's not a rumor, X570S boards are incoming. Confirmed thing. That said, you don't need them. They just don't have chipset fans anymore. Not really earth shattering.

40 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

B550 has 20 lanes of PCIe 4.0 available and also ranges from mid range to high end. Unless you really have a lot of PCIe cards to run you dont need X570.

20 lanes, but 16 are for your GPU. You get one M.2 running PCIe 4.0, which may be sufficient in most cases. If you need more than one fast storage drive, though, then X570 is the way to go.

 

I'm not even sure what you're talking about with the amount of PCIe cards. That has no bearing on anything one way or another.

 

[eskpt1]

2 hours ago, Dedayog said:

What CPU?  Why do you think you need a $400 motherboard?  Lesser boards can do the PCIe 4 thing.

I have a 5950x board and two samsung pro 980 gen 4. 2x16 Good Night corsair lpx 3600 CL18 air cooled 

[Jurrunio]

50 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

It's not a rumor, X570S boards are incoming. Confirmed thing.

Confirmed by who? No listings on retail, no public announcements, just leaks.

 

2 hours ago, Chris Pratt said:

I'm not even sure what you're talking about with the amount of PCIe cards. That has no bearing on anything one way or another.

X570 has double the bandwidth down the chipset than B550

 

11 minutes ago, eskpt1 said:

I have a 5950x board and two samsung pro 980 gen 4. 2x16 Good Night corsair lpx 3600 CL18 air cooled 

Then are there things you dont find but need on $250-300 boards? X570-E in particular, it basically has 95% of what the Crosshair has.

[Chris Pratt]

32 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Confirmed by who? No listings on retail, no public announcements, just leaks.

Both ASRock and MSI have officially announced X570S boards. ASRock even has the product page up. Care to try again, or would you just like to finally admit you're not correct?

 

https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/X570S PG Riptide/index.asp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/msi-officially-unveils-mag-x570s-tomahawk-wifi-max-x570s-torpedo-max-motherboards/amp/

 

42 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

X570 has double the bandwidth down the chipset than B550

Yeah? Of course it does, because the chipset is 4.0, which has double the bandwidth of 3.0. Still has nothing to do with how many cards you can throw in.

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, Chris Pratt said:

Both ASRock and MSI have officially announced X570S boards. ASRock even has the product page up. Care to try again, or would you just like to finally admit you're not correct?

 

https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/X570S PG Riptide/index.asp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/msi-officially-unveils-mag-x570s-tomahawk-wifi-max-x570s-torpedo-max-motherboards/amp/

Product page means little, they even put LN2 specific boards up there and good luck finding them on retail

 

But the video link inside the wccftech page (not wccftech itself obviously) does convince me.

 

2 hours ago, Chris Pratt said:

Yeah? Of course it does, because the chipset is 4.0, which has double the bandwidth of 3.0. Still has nothing to do with how many cards you can throw in.

It affects the bandwidth to those cards combined.

[eskpt1]

7 hours ago, jaslion said:

There is rarely if ever a case you need a 400$ board over a 150$ board that does everything the 400$ board does.

Which would be your x570 of choice if you had a 5950x, 2x16 memory, 1 RTX 3090, 2 x M.2 gen 4, air cooled with a Noctua DH15. case is either a be quiet 900 or an 802.