Would you switch from 10900k to 5800x?

[Mister Woof]

Won Newegg shuffle yesterday and received a 3070 for my wife. It came with the ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F.

 

My wife's system is an i7-8700. She is happy with it, less the old GPU which needs an RMA.

 

I am using a 10900KF and a 3080, and I'm happy with my system. It has an OC to 5.1, and is stable and performs well.

 

Thing is, my wife doesn't like AMD. So I'm stuck with either trying to sell the B550, or giving her my i9-10900KF and using the B550 for me.

 

Right now, the 5800x is on sale for under $425. Ideally, I'd want a 5900x. But it's just not available without markup.

 

My use cases are just gaming. In that respect, the 10900KF is basically on par, wins some and loses some to the 5800x. 

 

I play mostly MMOs, so I would gain some benefit from the 5800x. But not a lot. Probably imperceptible.

 

Would you switch? She'd gain some big numbers, about 800mhz, and probably enjoy the 10900KF.

 

I'd be basically a side grade personally.

 

Other option is to try to see this motherboard in an already saturated motherboard market.

 

I don't really need a new computer, and it would be another $450 for a CPU and another $100 for a cooler.

 

Or just take a loss on the motherboard and sell it underpriced.

[dizmo]

Honestly, no. You're not really taking a loss on the motherboard, if you consider how much you "saved" on the GPU.

[Moonzy]

5 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Would you switch?

doesnt make sense to spend that much on getting almost nothing back

 

just sell the board, get whatever costs you can back

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Or just take a loss on the motherboard and sell it underpriced.

this. How sensitive is your wife to high performance gaming? Is she chasing very high framerates? chances are the 8700 is doing quite alright for her. If you buy a CPU you're also looking at selling that i7 as well as its own motherboard, so you're kinda back to square 1 even if you do get the 5800X

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Won Newegg shuffle yesterday and received a 3070 for my wife. It came with the ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F.

 

My wife's system is an i7-8700. She is happy with it, less the old GPU which needs an RMA.

 

I am using a 10900KF and a 3080, and I'm happy with my system. It has an OC to 5.1, and is stable and performs well.

 

Thing is, my wife doesn't like AMD. So I'm stuck with either trying to sell the B550, or giving her my i9-10900KF and using the B550 for me.

 

Right now, the 5800x is on sale for under $425. Ideally, I'd want a 5900x. But it's just not available without markup.

 

My use cases are just gaming. In that respect, the 10900KF is basically on par, wins some and loses some to the 5800x. 

 

I play mostly MMOs, so I would gain some benefit from the 5800x. But not a lot. Probably imperceptible.

 

Would you switch? She'd gain some big numbers, about 800mhz, and probably enjoy the 10900KF.

 

I'd be basically a side grade personally.

 

Other option is to try to see this motherboard in an already saturated motherboard market.

 

I don't really need a new computer, and it would be another $450 for a CPU and another $100 for a cooler.

 

Or just take a loss on the motherboard and sell it underpriced.

But... the 5800X is way better than the 8700? tell her to try it. I would not switch if I were you.

[Satan_Prometheus]

7 minutes ago, Cool_Evlo said:

But... the 5800X is way better than the 8700? tell her to try it. I would not switch if I were you.

Brand loyalty is a weird thing!

 

But personally @Mister Woof I would just sell the board, unless your wife is really complaining about poor CPU performance. It probably isn't worth the time and effort to swap out the system.

[Fasauceome]

14 minutes ago, Cool_Evlo said:

But... the 5800X is way better than the 8700? tell her to try it. I would not switch if I were you.

It's way better in some ways, but there are a lot of circumstances where there is not really a difference in the experience they offer.

[SorryBella]

1 hour ago, Mister Woof said:

Won Newegg shuffle yesterday and received a 3070 for my wife. It came with the ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F.

B550-F is surprisingly being fucking scalped, atleast last time i checked. Just sell it, it wont be a massive leap forward and iirc its literally neck in neck in gaming and most productivity work.

[WereCat]

Absolutely not. 

You're not really gaining any significant performance increase for the hassle and money unless you're willing to step up at the very least to 5900X and you actually have a use case for those extra cores. 

[Mister Woof]

48 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Absolutely not. 

You're not really gaining any significant performance increase for the hassle and money unless you're willing to step up at the very least to 5900X and you actually have a use case for those extra cores. 

I don't. It would just be justifying keeping the motherboard. Every benchmark I see with a 10900k and 5800x is either too close to call or insignificant wins or losses

[Raintech]

If the answer was switching from 10900k to 5800x with no external factors: The answer is no, absolutely not worth it. Nope nope nope. Not worth it in any universe.

However, there seems to be 2 possible questions that are actually being asked here, in my interpretation: If your wife refuses to use AMD, a straight switch from her 8700 to her new 5800x with a free motherboard is out of the question

So the real question are these:
1) Are YOU willing to part with your 10900k system and give it to your wife, if yes, then
2) Are YOU willing to pay for a 5800x to replace your wifes old  8700 system (now  your's temporarily for as long as it takes you to swap out the components) given that you have a free motherboard for the 5800x.

 

If you answered no to either, then flip the motherboard and move on ywith your day.

 

Keeping in mind a few things:
-This upgrade ended up not being for yourself, but rather, for you wife (you know what they say, whats yours is hers, and whats hers, is still her's)

-If you give her your 10900k she probably won't have any use for it

-the 5800x is ~20% more framerate in gaming than the 8700 system, but about on par with your 10900k

 

Personal opinion: I think your wife can live without a 10900k, so just sell the motherboard and call it a day.

[Mister Woof]

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[Mister Woof]

11 hours ago, Satan_Prometheus said:

Brand loyalty is a weird thing!

 

But personally @Mister Woof I would just sell the board, unless your wife is really complaining about poor CPU performance. It probably isn't worth the time and effort to swap out the system.

It's less about brand loyalty as it is brand....aversion? Since around 2018 her computer has had one or more AMD parts that has given her trouble at some point. The first gen motherboards for the Ryzen 5 1600 were just terrible with memory/stability, upgrading to the B450 fixed that, but performance just wasn't there. And now the 5700XT looks like it's on its way out (artifacting, crashing, fixed by underclocking but will RMA now that I have a replacement).

 

We haven't had any issues really with our Intel systems. I personally don't mind AMD, and generally like their stuff especially their graphics cards. But I would be lying if I didn't say AMD has more quirks to it. 

 

Thanks for the replies everyone. Guess I'll have to brave the perils of social interaction and sell this thing.

 

EDIT: I suppose I could upgrade one of my kids' rigs. That i3-8350k is looking a bit dated. But my kids are jerks. So...

[Guest]

46 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

It's less about brand loyalty as it is brand....aversion? Since around 2018 her computer has had one or more AMD parts that has given her trouble at some point. The first gen motherboards for the Ryzen 5 1600 were just terrible with memory/stability, upgrading to the B450 fixed that, but performance just wasn't there. And now the 5700XT looks like it's on its way out (artifacting, crashing, fixed by underclocking but will RMA now that I have a replacement).

 

We haven't had any issues really with our Intel systems. I personally don't mind AMD, and generally like their stuff especially their graphics cards. But I would be lying if I didn't say AMD has more quirks to it. 

 

Thanks for the replies everyone. Guess I'll have to brave the perils of social interaction and sell this thing.

 

EDIT: I suppose I could upgrade one of my kids' rigs. That i3-8350k is looking a bit dated. But my kids are jerks. So...

Kids are jerks, no soup for you!!

[jones177]

I have both.

The R7 5800x wins at 1080p and the i9 10900k wins most of the time at 1440p and all the time at 4k.

 

When my 2 gaming computers were my i7 8086k and the i9 10900k I moved all my games to the i9 10900k because it was a much better experience. That has not happened between the 5800k and i9 10900k. Now in the day I use the 5800k and late at night I uses the i9. They basically feel the same to me.

 

The 5800x is nosier than the i9. Both have 360mm AIOs but the spikes more. I usually use headphones on the R7 but not with the i9.

 

[Mister Woof]

2 minutes ago, jones177 said:

I have both.

The R7 5800x wins at 1080p and the i9 10900k wins most of the time at 1440p and all the time at 4k.

 

When my 2 gaming computers were my i7 8086k and the i9 10900k I moved all my games to the i9 10900k because it was a much better experience. That has not happened between the 5800k and i9 10900k. Now in the day I use the 5800k and late at night I uses the i9. They basically feel the same to me.

 

The 5800x is nosier than the i9. Both have 360mm AIOs but the spikes more. I usually use headphones on the R7 but not with the i9.

 

Thank you for the hands-on experience input.

 

I talked to my sister, and I think I'll just be using these extra parts to build her a new computer with a 5600x.

[jones177]

3 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Thank you for the hands-on experience input.

 

I talked to my sister, and I think I'll just be using these extra parts to build her a new computer with a 5600x.

Bench it against your i7 and i9 before you pass it on. The results my surprise you.

[Mister Woof]

5 minutes ago, jones177 said:

Bench it against your i7 and i9 before you pass it on. The results my surprise you.

I'll take your word for it - I think a 5600x + Vega 64 will be a really good system for them to use at 1080p.