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My first pc please help. Tell me if this is good or bad

Budget (including currency): $2000

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Minecraft, apex, fornite, rainbow six, and maybe some streaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/swh9Hz

that's what i have so far. this will be my first pc and I'm paying for it so if there is something that seems a little off about it please tell me 

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Big nerd. 

 

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Ryzen 5 1400, Deepcool Gammaxx 400 V2 Blue, Biostar B450MH, Timetec 2x8GB 3200MHz CL16, Adata SU650 240GB, WD Blue 250GB 7200RPM, Seagate Barracuda 320GB 7200RPM, MSI Aero GTX 1060 3GB, Cougar MG130G, Segotep 750W Fully Modular 80+ Gold, HP 22EB, Samsung S22E450D, Sceptre E205-W, Gamakay LK67 with Gat Reds and HK Gaming Chalk keycaps, Logitech G305 Lightspeed, Shure MV7, Gertisan Mic Arm, OneOdio Headphones, CM SickleFlow Blue Fan, Iceberg Thermal IceGALE 140MM Teal x2, Cougar case fan

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I would go with a ryzen five tbh but everything else seems ok but honestly your games you want to play your pc seems a bit overkill for bc like Minecraft can run on pentium and Celeron and like honestly ryzen five would be the best in the long run but I would honestly get a ryzen 3 and a slight cheaper gpu imo but it is your build and like the only thing I would for sure do is a ryzen 5 (btw I used to play all those games on core 2 duo with 4 gb ram last year and it was an ok experience )

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1 hour ago, Bella The Dew said:

Budget (including currency): $2000

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Minecraft, apex, fornite, rainbow six, and maybe some streaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/swh9Hz

that's what i have so far. this will be my first pc and I'm paying for it so if there is something that seems a little off about it please tell me 

Better build, like yours does not include GPU price.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Qcjxc

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26 minutes ago, SnowTech said:

Better build, like yours does not include GPU price.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Qcjxc

-Overpriced AIO

-Overkill RAM

-Slow SSD for price

-Mediocre case

-Why get an RM750 when the Erenmax D.F Revolution is $5 more and is 850W??

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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8 minutes ago, Downkey said:

-Overpriced AIO

-Overkill RAM

-Slow SSD for price

-Mediocre case

-Why get an RM750 when the Erenmax D.F Revolution is $5 more and is 850W??

He doesn't need 850W and Corsair RM is way better quality.

 

Great case.

 

Less overpriced then a Z73 and it fits the theme.

 

SSD Speed does not matter for gaming.

 

RAM is 3600Mhz, which is exactly 2:1 to the AMD Infinity Fabric, like you should have.

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4 hours ago, SnowTech said:

He doesn't need 850W and Corsair RM is way better quality.

 

Great case.

 

Less overpriced then a Z73 and it fits the theme.

 

SSD Speed does not matter for gaming.

 

RAM is 3600Mhz, which is exactly 2:1 to the AMD Infinity Fabric, like you should have.

The RM is not better quality, where are you getting that from? And if the 850W is the same price, why not get that?

The P360A exists, very little reason to get this.

The Arctic Freezer II 360 (or 280) is much cheaper and better thermally than the X73. 
I would still advise an SSD with DRAM Cache with such a high end build like this. Especially when it’s only $4 - $10 more.

3200MHZ is fine. 3600 only gives a 3 - 4% boost in gaming, and that’s if it’s CL16. 3200MHZ CL14 is faster then 3600 CL16. 
Also a 3600 CL16 kit should be less than 100. Not 110. 
 

 

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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4 hours ago, Downkey said:

The RM is not better quality, where are you getting that from? And if the 850W is the same price, why not get that?

The P360A exists, very little reason to get this.

The Arctic Freezer II 360 (or 280) is much cheaper and better thermally than the X73. 
I would still advise an SSD with DRAM Cache with such a high end build like this. Especially when it’s only $4 - $10 more.

3200MHZ is fine. 3600 only gives a 3 - 4% boost in gaming, and that’s if it’s CL16. 3200MHZ CL14 is faster then 3600 CL16. 
Also a 3600 CL16 kit should be less than 100. Not 110. 
 

 

You literally said that its $5 more - also you might not believe me so I'm telling OP: Corsair RM power supplies are tried and tested, and you should never, ever, skimp on your power supply - because having a bad one can fry all of your components.

 

For the RAM - fine, they are both equal. Its 110 USD cause I wanted to make it RGB like he had in his build.

 

For the cooler I wanted to stick with a NZXT one like he previously had with RGB / Screen.

 

When you have a $2000 budget you can afford to have a nicer Corsair quality case.

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6 hours ago, SnowTech said:

You literally said that its $5 more - also you might not believe me so I'm telling OP: Corsair RM power supplies are tried and tested, and you should never, ever, skimp on your power supply - because having a bad one can fry all of your components.

 

For the RAM - fine, they are both equal. Its 110 USD cause I wanted to make it RGB like he had in his build.

 

For the cooler I wanted to stick with a NZXT one like he previously had with RGB / Screen.

 

When you have a $2000 budget you can afford to have a nicer Corsair quality case.

???? And so are the D.F Revolutions? The D.F Revolution is an awesome power supply and you are not “skimping out“ if you get one. I’m no PSU expert but the fact that you don’t know what the D.F Revolution is concerns me.
 

Unless you need the RGB, there is no reason to stick with NZXT. The Freezer is much better in terms of value and performance, I would much rather get that over some RGB I will look at every once in a while. 
 

The 275R is a budget oriented case now, and the P360A is much better quality anyway. It has

-RGB 

-Mesh

-2 120mm fans

its a much better case than the 275R.

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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7 hours ago, SnowTech said:

You literally said that its $5 more - also you might not believe me so I'm telling OP: Corsair RM power supplies are tried and tested, and you should never, ever, skimp on your power supply - because having a bad one can fry all of your components.

The Corsair RM and Enermax Revolution are both made by the same Company (Channel Well Technology). 

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ok so just to clear this up. while RM and D.F are both great psus D.F is the better one. 

 

Also @Downkey Great build! but sure oyu cnt get a 1TBSSd there? Like this:

Mushkin pilot-E. Currently well priced and underrated SSD that is simialr to samsung 970 evo

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Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Hey so this is what a changed does this look a little better. I decided that I can upgrade later and get more rgb that was I didn't get the P360A but the case might change because I do like the P360A. I want to stick with the NZXT Cooler just because it looks cool uhhhh yeah and 850w is where I feel more comfortable running a 3070. So yeah please anything else that Im over paying for other that the cpu cooler do tell. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fgF6z7 

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11 hours ago, Bella The Dew said:

Hey so this is what a changed does this look a little better. I decided that I can upgrade later and get more rgb that was I didn't get the P360A but the case might change because I do like the P360A. I want to stick with the NZXT Cooler just because it looks cool uhhhh yeah and 850w is where I feel more comfortable running a 3070. So yeah please anything else that Im over paying for other that the cpu cooler do tell. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fgF6z7 

You dont even need the AIO. Spending $270 for something not needed isnt a good idea.
Also you went with the non airflow version of the 4000D, which is terrible.

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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