My first NAS

[cookiethecrumb]

Hey guys I wanted to make my first home NAS for storing movies, music, games, documents, backups, etc. The very basic stuff I wanted it to have 4TB so I linked below what I think is the best, as far as the actual NAS system what is the cheapest that could do what I want below. Thanks so much for any help!

 

What I want:

1. Back up large files fairly quickly (why I wanted 7200RPM)

2. View images/videos/files from phone, laptop, computer

3. Reliable, for the backups

4. At least 2 hard drive slots

5. no budget, just as long as it can do those things

 

HDD I think I want: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084ZV8YW8?tag=5thgeekws-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1&keywords=7200 rpm hard drive

 

P.S. I know next to nothing about servers and NAS all I know is how to build a computer so any tips are welcome aswell, Thanks again!

[IkeaGnome]

Have you thought about getting a used Optiplex or similar and then just running Unraid? 

[Electronics Wizardy]

17 minutes ago, cookiethecrumb said:

HDD I think I want: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084ZV8YW8?tag=5thgeekws-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1&keywords=7200 rpm hard drive

 

Why do you want this drive? Id get the non pro version, you won't need the extra speed. If you want cheaper drives shuck the 8tb external drives

 

18 minutes ago, cookiethecrumb said:

. Back up large files fairly quickly (why I wanted 7200RPM)

Your gonna be network limited, so drive rpm won't matter

 

Whats your total budget?

 

Id probalby just get a cheap/used desktop.

[wall03]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Whats your total budget?

 

 

21 minutes ago, cookiethecrumb said:

5. no budget, just as long as it can do those things

 

[cookiethecrumb]

13 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Have you thought about getting a used Optiplex or similar and then just running Unraid? 

I have not and don't know what those things are. is that like doing it on a cheap computer?

[wall03]

1 minute ago, cookiethecrumb said:

what those things are.

old business computers that work perfectly well.

[cookiethecrumb]

8 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Why do you want this drive? Id get the non pro version, you won't need the extra speed. If you want cheaper drives shuck the 8tb external drives

 

Your gonna be network limited, so drive rpm won't matter

 

Whats your total budget?

 

Id probalby just get a cheap/used desktop.

Ya i dont know how it works so does it not matter if tis 5400 rpm because of the network or is it still worth it to do 7200 i dont know much about this stuff, and i dont have a budget i just want to know whats the cost to do the things i wanted to for the cheapiest

[Haraikomono]

for a simple home usage scenario, id recommend you to get a consumer grade nas,  since everything beyond that you wont really have a use for.

they are pretty cheap, around 100-200€ like a synology 216 or anything like that with 2 bays.

 

reason for consumer nas: convenience, most of the tools youll need are already there

[cookiethecrumb]

Just now, wall03 said:

old business computers that work perfectly well.

where and how much can you find a old one for, and would it be better than something like this? 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Synology-DiskStation-DS220j-Diskless-2-bay/dp/B0855LMP81/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=nas&qid=1618612592&sr=8-3

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, cookiethecrumb said:

Ya i dont know how it works so does it not matter if tis 5400 rpm because of the network or is it still worth it to do 7200 i dont know much about this stuff, and i dont have a budget i just want to know whats the cost to do the things i wanted to for the cheapiest

Im assuming this is over a gigabit network right?

 

Then your always network limited?

 

If you want something simple, id just get a premade nas from synology or the like.

 

If you want diy, id go with a i3 10100, 16gb of ram, unraid, and some cheapish nas drives(or shucked if you want even cheaper.

[wall03]

1 minute ago, cookiethecrumb said:

Ya i dont know how it works so does it not matter if tis 5400 rpm because of the network or is it still worth it to do 7200

no, it's not, especially if you have only 1gbps internet.

 

Just now, cookiethecrumb said:

where and how much can you find a old one for, and would it be better than something like this? 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Synology-DiskStation-DS220j-Diskless-2-bay/dp/B0855LMP81/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=nas&qid=1618612592&sr=8-3

eBay, usually their like $60 and not very much stuff needs to be done to fix them up. it's harder, but much cheaper.

[cookiethecrumb]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

Im assuming this is over a gigabit network right?

 

Then your always network limited?

 

If you want something simple, id just get a premade nas from synology or the like.

 

If you want diy, id go with a i3 10100, 16gb of ram, unraid, and some cheapish nas drives(or shucked if you want even cheaper.

I dont know what my internet limit is, i have a netgear nighthawk and i think it can do 5 gigabit is that what my network limit is?

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, cookiethecrumb said:

I dont know what my internet limit is, i have a netgear nighthawk and i think it can do 5 gigabit is that what my network limit is?

What model do you have?

 

Almost all home networks are gigabit max. Wifi is rated with much higher speeds, but its impossible to hit those speeds.

[cookiethecrumb]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What model do you have?

 

Almost all home networks are gigabit max. Wifi is rated with much higher speeds, but its impossible to hit those speeds.

its the NETGEAR Nighthawk AC1900

[wall03]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Wifi

wifi is max 750mbps... typo?

[wall03]

Just now, cookiethecrumb said:

its the NETGEAR Nighthawk AC1900

nope, it's going to be bottlenecked.

[cookiethecrumb]

4 minutes ago, wall03 said:

no, it's not, especially if you have only 1gbps internet.

 

eBay, usually their like $60 and not very much stuff needs to be done to fix them up. it's harder, but much cheaper.

what should i look up to find something like this?

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, wall03 said:

wifi is max 750mbps... typo?

really depends on your wifi setup. you can technically get 2+ gbit, but something like 500mbit is pretty common

1 minute ago, wall03 said:

nope, it's going to be bottlenecked.

What do you mean by that? Has gigabit ethernet, so it will will work fine.

 

 

Id just get a synology here.

[wall03]

1 minute ago, cookiethecrumb said:

what should i look up to find something like this?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-SFF-i3-3220-3-30Ghz-8GB-RAM-250GB-HDD-Win-10-Pro/144006468851?hash=item21877454f3:g:kOIAAOSwbetgdOti

[wall03]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

What do you mean by that? Has gigabit ethernet, so it will will work fine.

 

i mean like 7200RPM...

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, wall03 said:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-SFF-i3-3220-3-30Ghz-8GB-RAM-250GB-HDD-Win-10-Pro/144006468851?hash=item21877454f3:g:kOIAAOSwbetgdOti

Id stay awawy from those as there single drive bay only.

 

Id just get a basic synology, then software comes included and works well.

[cookiethecrumb]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Id stay awawy from those as there single drive bay only.

 

Id just get a basic synology, then software comes included and works well.

Why stay away?

 

and you think something like this? https://www.amazon.com/Synology-DiskStation-DS220j-Diskless-2-bay/dp/B0855LMP81/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=nas&qid=1618612592&sr=8-3

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, cookiethecrumb said:

Why stay away?

 

and you think something like this? https://www.amazon.com/Synology-DiskStation-DS220j-Diskless-2-bay/dp/B0855LMP81/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=nas&qid=1618612592&sr=8-3

Yea that should work fine here. Just get 2 drives and your good to go.

[BondiBlue]

3 minutes ago, wall03 said:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-SFF-i3-3220-3-30Ghz-8GB-RAM-250GB-HDD-Win-10-Pro/144006468851?hash=item21877454f3:g:kOIAAOSwbetgdOti

SFF OptiPlex machines don't make great NAS machines. There's only one drive bay, so no redundancy. 

 

I'd get a Synology unit personally. 

[cookiethecrumb]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Yea that should work fine here. Just get 2 drives and your good to go.

 

2 minutes ago, BondiBlue said:

SFF OptiPlex machines don't make great NAS machines. There's only one drive bay, so no redundancy. 

 

I'd get a Synology unit personally. 

 

6 minutes ago, wall03 said:

i mean like 7200RPM...

This synology blade i linked says it only has 512 GB of ram is that enough to view video/movies/images from the device over the internet on my phone?

 

https://www.amazon.com/Synology-DiskStation-DS220j-Diskless-2-bay/dp/B0855LMP81/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=nas&qid=1618612592&sr=8-3