Ryzen 5 build advice

[zane1214]

Well its been a few years since av been here. So hello again. 

Looking to leave intel for team red (again) and I need a little help before I spunk out a but load of cash.

looking at this:

• AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7GHz 6 Core (Socket AM4) CPU
• HyperX Predator RGB 16GB (2x 8GB) 3200MHz DDR4
• MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS AMD Mobo.
• MSI MAG CORELIQUID 240R CPU AIO Cooler.

Is this a good system? I'll be using my RX 5700XT GPU

 

I currently have,

• I5 4690K CPU
• MSI Z97-GD65 Mobo
• Corsair H100i GTX AIO
• 16GB (x4 4GB) HyperX savage DDR3 3200MHz

[curiousmind34]

3 minutes ago, zane1214 said:

Well its been a few years since av been here. So hello again. 

Looking to leave intel for team red (again) and I need a little help before I spunk out a but load of cash.

looking at this:

• AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7GHz 6 Core (Socket AM4) CPU
• HyperX Predator RGB 16GB (2x 8GB) 3200MHz DDR4
• MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS AMD Mobo.
• MSI MAG CORELIQUID 240R CPU AIO Cooler.

Is this a good system? I'll be using my RX 5700XT GPU

 

I currently have,

• I5 4690K CPU
• MSI Z97-GD65 Mobo
• Corsair H100i GTX AIO
• 16GB (x4 4GB) HyperX savage DDR3 3200MHz

Seems mostly good. A 3600mhz kit would be a bit better. Here is an rgb one: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1548861-REG/crucial_bl2k8g36c16u4bl_ballistix_rgb_16gb_8x2_3600.html
Liquid cooling not really needed, but people have preferences. CPU is perfect for gaming and single-threaded, which I assume is the main use case of this pc. Don't really know much about the motherboard, so won't comment much on that.

[dany13]

You'd be very lucky to find the CPU and GPU for a reasonable price that isnt being scapled. Could go for a higher speed memory though and it would increase your CPU performance.

[Downkey]

8 minutes ago, dany13 said:

You'd be very lucky to find the CPU and GPU for a reasonable price that isnt being scapled. Could go for a higher speed memory though and it would increase your CPU performance.

The CPU is constantly in stock for $300 now. Just an fyi

[Downkey]

you dont need an AIO 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$299.00 @ Best Buy
Motherboard	MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	$154.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$93.99 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$557.98
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$547.98
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-16 10:10 EDT-0400

 

[zane1214]

Ok, so the CPU is in stock so in that regard am not concerned. As far as coolers go I prefer the AIO although I was led to believe the Ryzens run hot. So no big deal there.

Ill up the DDR4 mem, just wanted to get everything from one place (being lazy really)

The machine will be solely gaming.

Thanks Downkey ill have a look at that now. Must add am in the UK.

Looking in the short future to use VR but not sure what to do there. May be a future thread on that lol.

 

[zane1214]

6 minutes ago, Downkey said:

you dont need an AIO 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$299.00 @ Best Buy
Motherboard	MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	$154.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$93.99 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$557.98
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$547.98
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-16 10:10 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	£329.99 @ Box Limited
Motherboard	MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	£153.15 @ CCL Computers
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	£106.88 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£590.02
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-16 14:17 GMT+0000

 

[zane1214]

i should as however will my EVGA 750 G2 be ok for this system?

 

[Downkey]

Just now, zane1214 said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	£329.99 @ Box Limited
Motherboard	MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	£153.15 @ CCL Computers
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	£106.88 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£590.02
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-16 14:17 GMT+0000

 

wait a few days. The 5600x often drops to 270 BP

[Downkey]

Just now, zane1214 said:

i should as however will my EVGA 750 G2 be ok for this system?

 

Should be fine

[zane1214]

Just now, Downkey said:

wait a few days. The 5600x often drops to 270 BP

been sitting at 330-350 for a few weeks now

[Downkey]

Just now, zane1214 said:

been sitting at 330-350 for a few weeks now

ive seen it drop to 268 a couple times.

[FRD]

4 minutes ago, zane1214 said:

Ok, so the CPU is in stock so in that regard am not concerned. As far as coolers go I prefer the AIO although I was led to believe the Ryzens run hot. So no big deal there.

Ill up the DDR4 mem, just wanted to get everything from one place (being lazy really)

The machine will be solely gaming.

Thanks Downkey ill have a look at that now. Must add am in the UK.

Looking in the short future to use VR but not sure what to do there. May be a future thread on that lol.

 

The temps of Ryzen might be higher than Intel at times, but it's not that much of a difference. You're totally fine using the boxed cooler or Wraith Prism cooler, as long as you don't overclock.

I think with the GPU you have, you're already settled for the future for VR. Also the CPU is good for it.

[zane1214]

6 minutes ago, Downkey said:

ive seen it drop to 268 a couple times.

PC World here have it for £280 but they never have them in stock.

The list I first posted was from CCL Online and came to £554.99. But they dont have 3600MHz ram

5 minutes ago, FRD said:

The temps of Ryzen might be higher than Intel at times, but it's not that much of a difference. You're totally fine using the boxed cooler or Wraith Prism cooler, as long as you don't overclock.

I think with the GPU you have, you're already settled for the future for VR. Also the CPU is good for it.

I did think I would be ok in regards to VR but just wanted to double check.

 

I'll stick with a box fan cooler them and save some pennies there

[FRD]

8 minutes ago, zane1214 said:

PC World here have it for £280 but they never have them in stock.

The list I first posted was from CCL Online and came to £554.99. But they dont have 3600MHz ram

I did think I would be ok in regards to VR but just wanted to double check.

 

I'll stick with a box fan cooler them and save some pennies there

I think you're fine with the stock cooler. You can always upgrade to an AIO later when you feel like it. The only thing is that the stock cooler can get a bit loud at times, it's your preference if this is disturbing for you or not. Personally I think it's not that loud on my Ryzen 3400G.

If you want a cheap good aftermarket cooler something like the Cooler Master Hyper 212 will do okay.

[zane1214]

1 minute ago, FRD said:

I think you're fine with the stock cooler. You can always upgrade to an AIO later when you feel like it. The only thing is that the stock cooler can get a bit loud at times, it's your preference if this is disturbing for you or not. Personally I think it's not that loud on my Ryzen 3400G.

If you want a cheap good aftermarket cooler something like the Cooler Master Hyper 212 will do okay.

just looking at: 

• BeQuiet! Pure Rock Slim CPU Cooler

but still looking at RAM as most I can see is 3200MHz

[FRD]

1 minute ago, zane1214 said:

just looking at: 

• BeQuiet! Pure Rock Slim CPU Cooler

but still looking at RAM as most I can see is 3200MHz

That BeQuiet cooler is a good rated one, but I can't tell from experience on Ryzen 5000 series yet. You'd have to look it up.

I'm sure there must be RAM out there that's higher than 3200mhz. Have you looked at Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro yet? A bit expensive though.

[zane1214]

9 minutes ago, FRD said:

That BeQuiet cooler is a good rated one, but I can't tell from experience on Ryzen 5000 series yet. You'd have to look it up.

I'm sure there must be RAM out there that's higher than 3200mhz. Have you looked at Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro yet? A bit expensive though.

No not yet as I say I wanted to get everything from one place but think I'll have to use different venders. Pain but needs must. as far as Mobo the MSI MPG B550 is ok yeah? just ram i need to upgrade 

[zane1214]

So this is where am at. but might get a slightly smaller cooler lol

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	£329.99 @ Box Limited
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	£72.72 @ CCL Computers
Motherboard	MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard	£129.99 @ Box Limited
Memory	Crucial Ballistix RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	£88.24 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£620.94
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-16 14:57 GMT+0000

 

more than I first wanted to pay and means not telling the wife. 

[FRD]

14 minutes ago, zane1214 said:

No not yet as I say I wanted to get everything from one place but think I'll have to use different venders. Pain but needs must. as far as Mobo the MSI MPG B550 is ok yeah? just ram i need to upgrade 

The motherboard is a good choice. For the ram, someone else said 3600 is better, but it's just a small difference from 3200mhz. I would say get the fastest ram possible, but only if the price difference is not big.

9 minutes ago, zane1214 said:

So this is where am at.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	£329.99 @ Box Limited
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	£72.72 @ CCL Computers
Motherboard	MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard	£129.99 @ Box Limited
Memory	Crucial Ballistix RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	£88.24 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£620.94
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-16 14:57 GMT+0000

 

more than I first wanted to pay and means not telling the wife. 

I think the Be Quiet you chose is nice and good, but too expensive. Originally you wanted the MSI AIO. It's only a bit more expensive. How much does it cost there in GBP?
Either go directly for it or just leave it out first and use the stock cooler if you don't overclock.

For RAM my other suggestions are:

https://www.box.co.uk/CMW16GX4M2C3200C16-Corsair-Vengeance-RGB-PRO-16GB-(2x8GB)-3_2361204.html

or

https://www.cclonline.com/product/345874/HX436C17FB3AK2/16/Desktop-Memory/HyperX-FURY-RGB-16GB-DDR4-Dual-Channel-Desktop-Memory-DIMM-Kit-2-x-8GB-3600MHz-PC4-28800-CL17-1-35V-Black-RGB-LED/RAM4667/

 

Edit: Actually the one you found is the best for the price already and 3600mhz.

[zane1214]

28 minutes ago, FRD said:

The motherboard is a good choice. For the ram, someone else said 3600 is better, but it's just a small difference from 3200mhz. I would say get the fastest ram possible, but only if the price difference is not big.

I think the Be Quiet you chose is nice and good, but too expensive. Originally you wanted the MSI AIO. It's only a bit more expensive. How much does it cost there in GBP?
Either go directly for it or just leave it out first and use the stock cooler if you don't overclock.

For RAM my other suggestions are:

https://www.box.co.uk/CMW16GX4M2C3200C16-Corsair-Vengeance-RGB-PRO-16GB-(2x8GB)-3_2361204.html

or

https://www.cclonline.com/product/345874/HX436C17FB3AK2/16/Desktop-Memory/HyperX-FURY-RGB-16GB-DDR4-Dual-Channel-Desktop-Memory-DIMM-Kit-2-x-8GB-3600MHz-PC4-28800-CL17-1-35V-Black-RGB-LED/RAM4667/

 

Edit: Actually the one you found is the best for the price already and 3600mhz.

So the 3600MHz RAM is around £10 more expensive so seems worth it for the little extra. And as you say it seems the best for the price. I don't care for RGB and all that lol.

Great on the MOBO as I really like that one.

The MSI mag AIO cooler is £90.92 and the BeQuiet dark rock 4 is £57.36.

 

So it would seem the I have what I need. 

• Ryzen 5 5600x
• MSI MPH B550
• Crucial balistix 3600MHz ram

just need to decide on cooler now, but it would seem that price is the cheapest i will get.

 

Heads up though, i'll need software help next lol, as I want to use my excising SSD for my OS.  

[FRD]

20 hours ago, zane1214 said:

So the 3600MHz RAM is around £10 more expensive so seems worth it for the little extra. And as you say it seems the best for the price. I don't care for RGB and all that lol.

Great on the MOBO as I really like that one.

The MSI mag AIO cooler is £90.92 and the BeQuiet dark rock 4 is £57.36.

 

So it would seem the I have what I need. 

• Ryzen 5 5600x
• MSI MPH B550
• Crucial balistix 3600MHz ram

just need to decide on cooler now, but it would seem that price is the cheapest i will get.

 

Heads up though, i'll need software help next lol, as I want to use my excising SSD for my OS.  

In that case 3600mhz is worth it for just 10 GBP extra.

It's funny that you say you don't care for RGB, even though you chose a RGB AIO and RGB RAM.  In general RGB parts are usually more expensive than normal, but in this case I think the RAM is not.

 

If you look for non-RGB RAM, check out: Corsair Vengeance LPX, HyperX Fury Black, G.Skill Ripjaws V and G.Skill Aegis (last one is the cheapest usually).

The price difference for the coolers is much more there it seems. It's up to you whether you want to spend on an air cooler first and upgrade later or just keep it like that. AIO is nice to have and quiet, but it's not much more cooler than air cooling.

By software you mean you need a legit copy of Windows 10?

[curiousmind34]

20 hours ago, zane1214 said:

So the 3600MHz RAM is around £10 more expensive so seems worth it for the little extra. And as you say it seems the best for the price. I don't care for RGB and all that lol.

Great on the MOBO as I really like that one.

The MSI mag AIO cooler is £90.92 and the BeQuiet dark rock 4 is £57.36.

 

So it would seem the I have what I need. 

• Ryzen 5 5600x
• MSI MPH B550
• Crucial balistix 3600MHz ram

just need to decide on cooler now, but it would seem that price is the cheapest i will get.

 

Heads up though, i'll need software help next lol, as I want to use my excising SSD for my OS.  

cheapest cooler you can get is the one that comes free with the cpu. It's a decent cooler, like I wouldn't get a hyper 212 to replace it, if you want to go for a non stock cooler, you should go realtively higher end, or just stay with stock.